Study- Anti-Aging Supplements Don't Work

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I saw this on Yahoo and thought I would post it to the group. I haven't read the study yet. Any comments.....

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You'll have to put a period in place of my "dot".
 
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If it's from yahoo why are you using a tinyurl link?
 

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If it's from yahoo why are you using a tinyurl link?
Since I'm a newbie on this forum and can't post URLs, I thought it would be less for people to type that aren't good at copying and pasting. If there is a better way, please straighten me out.

I see now that I can't read the study without paying a minimum of $10.
 

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I just arrived here to post this article, which is wrong on so many levels.

They're really making it an uphill battle for those like Dr. Crisler and others to do the right thing, aren't they?

Anyway, here is the article text for future reference as the articles sometimes disappear over time.

Study: Anti-aging supplements don't work
By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer
(18-OCT-2006)

The fountain of youth apparently does not yet come in a pill. Widely used DHEA supplements and testosterone patches failed to deliver their touted anti-aging benefits in one of the first rigorous studies to test such claims in older men and women.

The substances did not improve the participants' strength, their physical performance, or certain other measures of health.

"I don't think there's any case for administering these" to elderly people, said Dr. K. Sreekumaran Nair of the Mayo Clinic, lead author of the study, published in Thursday's
New England Journal of Medicine.

DHEA, a steroid that is a precursor to the sex hormones testosterone and estrogen, is made by the body, but levels decline rapidly after age 25. DHEA supplements are marketed as rejuvenating agents, and U.S. sales hit $50 million last year.

Testosterone is available by prescription only. But the
Food and Drug Administration classifies DHEA as a supplement, meaning it can be sold without meeting the same safety and effectiveness standards as a drug.

Some athletes use DHEA and testosterone to try to boost performance, often in violation of athletic association rules.

The NFL and other professional sports have banned DHEA. Cycling officials have moved to strip the Tour de France title from winner Floyd Landis, after a French laboratory found elevated testosterone levels in his urine.

Apart from this type of use, scientists have wondered if the substances might help older people. Studies with rodents offered tantalizing results that showed DHEA seemed to decrease fat and fight diabetes and heart disease.

But there have been few rigorous scientific studies in humans. A French study of DHEA in 280 elderly people, reported in 2000, found the only benefit was an increase in female libido. A Dutch study this year found no benefit of DHEA in 100 men 70 and older.

The new study was done by researchers at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and the University of Padua in Italy.

Over two years, the researchers studied 57 women and 87 men, all of them at least 60 years old. The women were given standard daily doses of DHEA or identical fake pills. The men were given real or fake DHEA, as well as a testosterone skin patch or a placebo patch.

Blood samples were taken every three months. Participants also were examined for any changes in body fat, hormone levels, bone density, and performance on treadmill, weightlifting and leg flexibility tests. The men and women also filled out uestionnaires about how they felt and their quality of life.

Although DHEA and testosterone levels increased in the men and women who took the real treatments, there was no effect on physical performance, quality of life or the body's ability to lower levels of blood sugar.

The testosterone treatments led to a small but significant increase in the amount of body weight free of fat, but that did not correspond to any improvements in strength. DHEA had no such effects.

DHEA appeared to improve density in bones in the arm and neck, but not in the back and hip, Nair said. "That shows an inconsistent or minor effect," he said.

No harmful side effects were detected. That is good news, but it does not mean the supplements are altogether safe, said Simon Yeung, manager of the Web site on supplements and integrative medicine at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

In the study, testosterone was given in low doses. Higher levels might have more benefit, but doctors worry testosterone may also raise the risk of prostate cancer, Yeung said. As for DHEA, cancer specialists worry it may increase certain patients' risks of breast and prostate cancer, he said.

Dr. Paul Stewart of England's University of Birmingham said in an accompanying editorial that more research should be done on DHEA, and if it proves safe and effective, it should be regulated as a drug.

"Without a reversal of the current U.S. legislation, DHEA is likely to continue to be used inappropriately, and quackery will revail," Stewart wrote.

Andrew Shao of the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement trade organization, said DHEA should not be regulated as a drug because people do not use it to treat a specific illness.

A pharmaceutical designation does not guarantee safety, added Shao, referring to Vioxx and other FDA-approved drugs that had to pulled from the market.
 

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I hope everyone could view the Yahoo article text from the above links, but I was hoping to see the study text. That is what I found to cost a minimum of $10 to view.

In the article they didn't mention anything about monitoring E2 or treating elevated E2. I am wondering if the study text would indicate anything about that or did they just disregard something as important as E2 when treating these subjects with TRT.
 

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The testosterone treatments led to a small but significant increase in the amount of body weight free of fat, but that did not correspond to any improvements in strength. DHEA had no such effects.

In the study, testosterone was given in low doses. Higher levels might have more benefit, but doctors worry testosterone may also raise the risk of prostate cancer, Yeung said. As for DHEA, cancer specialists worry it may increase certain patients' risks of breast and prostate cancer, he said.
Thgey are referring to DHEA specifically, but trying to allude that test doesn't do anything either.

They also admit that the amount of testosterone they used was low.

What would the results have looked like at higher doses?
 
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I wish I could post the lecture I present at A4M conferences on DHEA. I'm sure it's too large a file. Maybe someone has some advice on this?
How large is the file and what kind of file is it? I could probably post it on one of my websites for people to download. Zipped up it might fit here even if it's too large when uncompressed.
 
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The article is indeed totally biased and reeks of agenda driven politics.

Notice they did not find anything wrong with DHEA supplementation, but they are quick to warn us all how scarey it is because "you just never know" how bad it could be. Then they hop on the ban-the-evil-supplement bandwagon as a way of bending over and getting their pharma dollars, lol.

Certainly, DHEA use is not to be taken lightly and levels should be tested before and during, but have we really seen any life threatening consequences from use..from the millions of people taking this stuff? Most people, particularly women are taking too much since most of the OTC tabs are 25 mg. Most women are not going to need more than 5-10 mgs, but I fail to see the heaps of DHEA corpses they are hinting at. lol
 
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It says 3.97MB. Can you work with that?

My goal is to, by the end of the first decade of this millenium, have moved into the 19990's technologically.
Should be fine. If you can PM me or just email me at [email protected] with the file and I'll see about getting it posted here, or if it zips too large then to my site so people can just pull from there.
 
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With a title of
Study: Anti-aging supplements don't work
You can pretty much predict the article will be laced with agenda and/or bias. Those types of titles set off my spidy senses.
 
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I wish I could post the lecture I present at A4M conferences on DHEA.
That is super good news, thank you so much, I cannot wait to read it.

Wonder if there is a way to get Dr Shippen's hand-out from his lecture
at Las Vegas 14th Annual International Congress on Anti-Aging Medicine.
14th International Congress on Anti-Aging Medicine 2006 - Las Vegas

""You will be given Dr. Shippen's unique simplified Protocols for
"The Diagnosis and Treatment of Male and Female Aging Transitions"
which will be immediately useful in your practice.
These simplified protocols will outline the diagnostic testing and
many treatment options available.
This will help to determine the best options for different individuals
and for different complex clinical situations. ""
 
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Dr. Paul Stewart of England's University of Birmingham said in an accompanying editorial that more research should be done on DHEA, and if it proves safe and effective, it should be regulated as a drug.
They give away their intention right here...$50 million a year is a nice cherry to pluck from the hands of supplement companies...they want it regulated so they can jack the price and force prescription sales.
 
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Ahhh...good point.

Then they would have to completely reverse themselves. Perhaps by showing the actual body of evidence?
Since when has such a thing as rational consistency ever been important to them?
 
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Still waiting...and getting older...and suffering the symptoms (unnecessarily, as more and more evidence accrues) of age...and having the things that might help us pulled one by one away from us by greedy bastards.
 

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Still waiting...and getting older...and suffering the symptoms (unnecessarily, as more and more evidence accrues) of age...and having the things that might help us pulled one by one away from us by greedy bastards.
I hear ya. But the tide is turning though. The evidence is mounting. It cannot be ignored forever...:study:
 

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Just out of curiosity....who are the people opposing anti aging therapies??

Is it the drug companies who want to patent evrything from water to bread so they can artificially drive up prices?

If so.........thats sick.
 
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pretty much yes
 

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Environmental estrogens are on the rise. Bastards... :numbered:

edit: Funny, Did anyone else notice the letro ad to the right? Kinda ironic...
 

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The REAL agenda behind their efforts may be to totally discredit DHEA, because they are afraid our youth will buy it because it is a steroid (converts to Testosterone).
The government doesn't want the average joe living longer. Social Security is already broken, more (non-wealthy) people living longer only means more pressure on the system and politicians don't want to deal with it. Having people die earilier is easier than dealing with an ever growing aging population that wants to retire sooner, rather than later.

Okay, maybe I shouldn't watch so many X Files reruns.
 

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The government doesn't want the average joe living longer. Social Security is already broken, more (non-wealthy) people living longer only means more pressure on the system and politicians don't want to deal with it. Having people die earilier is easier than dealing with an ever growing aging population that wants to retire sooner, rather than later.
Agreed

That's why I've made it my business to help people live healthier, happier and longer than most people think is possible. The population will only grow. "the system" will have do change wether it wants to or not.

Our responsibility is to remove the stigma attached to our lifestyle. That's my mission at least...
 
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Dam...all you have to do is build a time machine,go back in time and start over.Didn't you see Back to the future...I can't believe no one else thought of this..
 
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They'll get my DHEA when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

..and I ain't goin down easy. :bruce3:
 

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