- 10-05-2006, 08:28 PM
Ok....I guess I am a wimp. In addition to some thyroid problems, I have low testosterone. I do not want to just take test until I rule out some other alternatives. My testosterone level is around 240 which is at the very low end of the scale.
I am wondering what the experiences here are for people who have tested for Lutenizing hormone (LH)? From my readings it seems like if you have low test and high LH your testes are not producing much testosterone. If you have low test and low LH, you may have pituitary issues.
Am I undersatnding this correctly? And if I am, what else should I be testing for? Any other ways to increase test without taking it?
I am sure this has been asked and answered...but I am new here...aiight.
- 10-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by spinn
I'd say that's about right, but have a knowledgable doctor confirm.
Read Dr. Crislers TRT protocol for suggestions on what to have tested.
- 10-06-2006, 12:40 PM
Actually...it looks like FSH is better to test than LH because LH has a very short half life.
Anyone have any suggestions for good companies to get this tested through?
10-07-2006, 09:14 AM
Unhappy face is because I feel lousy and have for years.
MY Doctor is very good with thyroid and adrenal issues, not so much with testosterone. I am not just concerned with the fact that my testosterone is low, but why it is low.
Estrogen was high so I am reluctant to take testsosterone. I did just start taking Arimidex so hopefully estrogen is falling and test is rising.
10-09-2006, 02:02 PM
Thanks Dr John.....I actually am not here for TRT, but am aware that is part of the problem.
My thyroid and adrenals are both very hypo and need some help but luckily I have one of the best Drs around for that (Dr Rind).
All along everyone has done everything they could do to convince me I had depression. My take has always been that low metabolic energy and generally feeling lousy also lead to "depression". Its almost like Drs get some sort of commission when they diagnose a patient with that.
Ironcially, low energy also makes sleep difficult. Your adrenals need to be functioning to give you enough energy to sleep
10-10-2006, 10:07 AM
I am with you on that I have been treating this for 4 months now first started treating low adrenals then about 6 weeks ago started on thyroid. I can't wait to get my engery back I am so dam tired of forcing my self to do things. And dam sick of family saying it's all in your head your depressed they are as bad as some Dr.'s.Originally Posted by spinn
10-10-2006, 10:48 AM
you can't just take LH, unless your goal is chemical castration.
LH must be released in a pulsatile member, constant LH stimulation on the testes results in shutting them down completely. I beleive its 97% as effect at reducing testosterone as physically removing the testes. Otherwise it would be great for PCT.
10-10-2006, 12:57 PM
Well I take HCG this gets my testis working I am on TRT been on it for 22yrs my testis got dam small on TRT when I added HCG witch acts like LH my testis came back and I feel much better. What your saying what do you base this on.Originally Posted by TheGame46
10-10-2006, 01:21 PM
you will get an initial surge of test yes from the initial stimulation by the LH, but if you take anything that causes the stimulation to constantly be applied like LHRH or high dose HCG continuously, the testes will shut ofOriginally Posted by pmgamer18
10-10-2006, 01:27 PM
But dont you take HCG only occassionally?
Also I have seen that you do not need to stop taking cremes...I dont trust that so I would want to take something once in a while.
I am sure its in the articles.....I just havent read all of them yet.
10-10-2006, 04:15 PM
Sure we know this after all this is Dr. John's site you did not post it like this you sounded like if one uses LH they will kill there testis this is true if your doing more then your Testis can handle we are talking about 250 IU's to 500 IU's 2 or 3 times a week. Not 1500 IU's.Originally Posted by TheGame46
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