My Cenegenics Experience
- 04-15-2008, 10:33 PM
- 04-16-2008, 01:09 AM
That's a good question. Maybe the answer depends on the individual. FT at 160 should be enough for anyone. I feel good at 233, but felt better in the 300 range. I didn't see much of an added benefit at 425. It only raised my estrogen level.
04-16-2008, 09:43 AM
04-22-2008, 05:33 PM
04-22-2008, 05:45 PM
04-22-2008, 05:55 PM
Primary = Varicocele ?
Right now I am on androgel .... I have been for 2 1/2 weeks .... I had the "WOW" "Eurphoric" experience and now I have, as of today upped the dosage to 6 pumps, seeing as though I have had the crash ....
04-22-2008, 07:53 PM
04-22-2008, 09:50 PM
I have yet to hear from one person on here that has had varicocele and surgery recover their T .... if you search the forum for varicocele and read through the posts .... most of us are on T or trying anyting and everything to get back to normal .....
Not sure where my testes are .... I know i am not right though ....
04-22-2008, 10:29 PM
04-23-2008, 12:32 PM
04-23-2008, 12:45 PM
04-23-2008, 01:21 PM
jinxie - I hear ya .... There may be some with optimal T after surgery but is is a fact that varicocele does cause a drop in T .... There is even more information that shows that there is a threshold of T .... Once you drop below it you experience the symptoms ....
I was thinking of trying the HCG after my 30 day trial of Androgel, if the DR will even entertain it .... We all know how DR's are .... So I am fairly sure, unless after meeting with the new Endo in July, I am stuck with Androgel for the time being ....
I did up my dosage to 6 pumps a day and added the under arms as a application point .... 2nd day on 6 pumps and my energy is great .... been a busy little bee here at work ... installing monitors and building pc's left and right .... SMILE
I just wish that more info was out there letting first time users of Androgel of the WOW and Crash .... It really made me feel like stopping the Androgel ....
04-23-2008, 10:23 PM
04-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Thanks man ....
I am gonna put out a general question ....
How do we overcome the performance anxiety that we have when we start to get better ?
I get so nervous when my other half wants to get busy .... Now if i am the one that is chasing it i am not so nervous ....
04-24-2008, 03:27 PM
04-25-2008, 12:03 PM
04-25-2008, 03:28 PM
02-03-2009, 01:44 PM
02-04-2009, 12:04 AM
02-12-2009, 03:16 AM
Very interesting information. We are going to see a doctor in Northern CA for HRT, but it is incredibly expensive. The tests for women cost a bit more than men -- it was 1002.00 per person for lab work and initial consultations. The charge for the 6 month contract for oversight plus the first 5 weeks of medications was about $1950 per person. We are getting GH, hormone creams, pills (Pregnenolone, DHEA, thyroid and adrenal support). I'm not sure how this compares to other plans, but it is pretty expensive for us. Almost 3000.00 each. Does that seem reasonable?
02-12-2009, 04:14 AM
02-12-2009, 11:30 AM
02-12-2009, 11:32 AM
02-12-2009, 04:53 PM
02-12-2009, 05:39 PM
02-12-2009, 05:39 PM
02-14-2009, 12:11 PM
02-14-2009, 04:01 PM
I noticed results in 30 days, and my condition improved over time. The most dramatic changes came in 6 months. The results stay with you for quite some time after you stop using it. Even though my doctor recommends daily injections I take 2 days off per week and one month off every six.
02-15-2009, 04:32 AM
Here are my results if you want to take a look from a Rheins test.
02-15-2009, 12:57 PM
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