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    I am just back from my Dr's office visit. My levels were fair.

    Total test: 677 (250-1100)
    % free test: 1.25 (1.1-2.8)
    free test: 84.8 (35.0-155.0)
    LH: 1.4 (0.8-7.6)

    But I have to say that I am furious at this moment. As I mentioned in earlier posts, my insurance annual prescription coverage has run out. So I am left to have to pay out of pocket. This makes AndroGel out of the question. So we discussed my desire to begin injection so that I could afford to pay out of pocket for it.

    We began to discuss doses. Here is where we had some conflict. She was wanting to dose me 350-400mg E3W. I explained to here that old school medicine suggests that protocol. New protocol has been established by those working in the field. It suggests weekly doses to reduce hormone fluctuation. At this point I flipped through the pages of Dr. John's article to begin to provide some quotations. I proceded to say that I have been in discussion with an endo and he suggests...She shut me down.

    I won't be prescribing once a week injections...period. This is what doping athletes and bodybuilders do. I will not risk my license by being associated with that practice. I explained to her that I understand the stigmas and stereo-type that comes with the use of testosterone and how it may appear to your fellow medical practicioners. She said "It's not them...it's the media". I will not risk my license.

    I explained that new advances in TRT have been made and that "this" endo suggests once weekly injections. He is a specialist in the field of Anti-Aging and TRT.

    "Go see him then."

    I then told her that I wanted a referral to an endo. They are so limited in my area and so limited by my insurance plan I will likely find no one that has any idea how to practice TRT effectively.

    So before I left I let her inject me with 400mg of test. At this point I have no choice really. I am out of AndroGel and cannot afford to pay for it out of pocket. I am suppressed for sure so I cannot just stop cold turkey. For now I will have to follow her protocol until I find other means. She wants me to get a blood draw in two weeks. So ignorant.
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    You can do compounded cream that I feel is better then the gels and cost is less then shots or the same. Also if you need to show your Dr. about shots you never show a Dr. a different Dr.'s works most will shut you down. Go to this link it is the AACE Guildlines and read page 11 hell read the whole then on page 11 it startes to do shots every 7 to 10 days she can't argue with this.
    http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

    And this is a link to Collage Pharmacy call them and ask them what it cost to compound a cream = to your does of Androgel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    I am just back from my Dr's office visit. My levels were fair.

    Total test: 677 (250-1100)
    % free test: 1.25 (1.1-2.8)
    free test: 84.8 (35.0-155.0)
    LH: 1.4 (0.8-7.6)

    But I have to say that I am furious at this moment. As I mentioned in earlier posts, my insurance annual prescription coverage has run out. So I am left to have to pay out of pocket. This makes AndroGel out of the question. So we discussed my desire to begin injection so that I could afford to pay out of pocket for it.

    We began to discuss doses. Here is where we had some conflict. She was wanting to dose me 350-400mg E3W. I explained to here that old school medicine suggests that protocol. New protocol has been established by those working in the field. It suggests weekly doses to reduce hormone fluctuation. At this point I flipped through the pages of Dr. John's article to begin to provide some quotations. I proceded to say that I have been in discussion with an endo and he suggests...She shut me down.

    I won't be prescribing once a week injections...period. This is what doping athletes and bodybuilders do. I will not risk my license by being associated with that practice. I explained to her that I understand the stigmas and stereo-type that comes with the use of testosterone and how it may appear to your fellow medical practicioners. She said "It's not them...it's the media". I will not risk my license.

    I explained that new advances in TRT have been made and that "this" endo suggests once weekly injections. He is a specialist in the field of Anti-Aging and TRT.

    "Go see him then."

    I then told her that I wanted a referral to an endo. They are so limited in my area and so limited by my insurance plan I will likely find no one that has any idea how to practice TRT effectively.

    So before I left I let her inject me with 400mg of test. At this point I have no choice really. I am out of AndroGel and cannot afford to pay for it out of pocket. I am suppressed for sure so I cannot just stop cold turkey. For now I will have to follow her protocol until I find other means. She wants me to get a blood draw in two weeks. So ignorant.
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    Thanks Phil. I'll look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    I am just back from my Dr's office visit. My levels were fair.

    Total test: 677 (250-1100)
    % free test: 1.25 (1.1-2.8)
    free test: 84.8 (35.0-155.0)
    LH: 1.4 (0.8-7.6)

    But I have to say that I am furious at this moment. As I mentioned in earlier posts, my insurance annual prescription coverage has run out. So I am left to have to pay out of pocket. This makes AndroGel out of the question. So we discussed my desire to begin injection so that I could afford to pay out of pocket for it.

    We began to discuss doses. Here is where we had some conflict. She was wanting to dose me 350-400mg E3W. I explained to here that old school medicine suggests that protocol. New protocol has been established by those working in the field. It suggests weekly doses to reduce hormone fluctuation. At this point I flipped through the pages of Dr. John's article to begin to provide some quotations. I proceded to say that I have been in discussion with an endo and he suggests...She shut me down.

    I won't be prescribing once a week injections...period. This is what doping athletes and bodybuilders do. I will not risk my license by being associated with that practice. I explained to her that I understand the stigmas and stereo-type that comes with the use of testosterone and how it may appear to your fellow medical practicioners. She said "It's not them...it's the media". I will not risk my license.

    I explained that new advances in TRT have been made and that "this" endo suggests once weekly injections. He is a specialist in the field of Anti-Aging and TRT.

    "Go see him then."

    I then told her that I wanted a referral to an endo. They are so limited in my area and so limited by my insurance plan I will likely find no one that has any idea how to practice TRT effectively.

    So before I left I let her inject me with 400mg of test. At this point I have no choice really. I am out of AndroGel and cannot afford to pay for it out of pocket. I am suppressed for sure so I cannot just stop cold turkey. For now I will have to follow her protocol until I find other means. She wants me to get a blood draw in two weeks. So ignorant.
    Really sorry to hear that.
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    Wow, talk about being a pioneer.

    You are taking this whole Learn: Teach: Lead thing to a whole new level

    This thing is far greater than you Brian, although temporarily disappointed, see tha bigger picture & appreciate tha journey.
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    Jordan,

    I am hardly a pioneer. I have spent some several hundreds of dollars between co-pays for office visits, co-pays for bloodwork (which by the way she still does not have recorrect) and have exhausted my insurance prescription coverage for the rest of the year, while I have patiently waited for her to get on board with the program and protocol.

    I am not an expert by any means. But I have dedicated a lot of time researching and inquiring with at least one credible practitioner. She is waisting my time and money and putting my body under undue fluctuations in my hormones by trying to implement an archaic TRT protocol. This is simply do to the stigma associated with weekly injections. No other reason.

    "You went to college to be stupid. That's stupid" ~Sonny Corleone
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    One would think that the recommended protocols fro aace would influence her. She is in fact practicing medicine AGAINST the best available recommendations. She's mor elikely to get into trouble with her license for doing that IMO than in giving you weekly injections.
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    I considered mailing a copy of it to her. I have yet decided if I will continue to follow up with her. I am angered more by her obstinance than ignorance.
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    Well, it might be effective to address what her stated concerns were (yes, we know her real issues).....but her stated concerns were that weekly injections weren't the generally recognized standard of care for TRT and that she could get in trouble for deviating from the standards.

    So, you show her what the standards are.....and explain that you're wanting to be treated according to the best accepted practices as decided by her peers who specialize in TRT. She's actually protecting her medical license by prescribing weekly injections rather than ignoring the best medical protocols as decided by her profession.

    See what I mean.....you work her around to seeing how it's in her interest to do what you want?

    Sure, she's a ****head who should have done this research herself and is more concerned with what her colleague in the office nextdoor said than with your health....but if you're stuck with her as a provider, then this is how I'd approach it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    Jordan,

    I am hardly a pioneer.
    You do realize this IS tha future. Your experience will become more and more common.

    Who else is logging these events?

    On what boards?

    You very well could keep all this to yourself. You love this board a great deal and it shows.

    Through good or bad people will learn from your experiences as you are initiating new practices within tha medical community.

    Quit being so damn humble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad
    Quit being so damn humble.
    Love you too. You're a good kid
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