Just a quick note as mentioned above I am no doctor just someone who has lived with trt for many years. I am very new to this forum but have been around this a very long time. Good news for me is my wife is a physician. I have a lot of help in regards to trt . Everyone says trt is for life and I don't want to start a big discussion over it but that is not true. I personally stopped trt for over 2 years and lived a pretty good life. I was not the same guy as when I was on trt but I was fine. It's forever if you can not restart your hpta and your are permanently shut down. I had a bit of a rough time but got back with taking zero meds. No Serms, hcg, or ai's to speak of. I just let my body try and recover on its own and it did. It sucked completely and it was very rough to say the least. My choice to go back on trt was simply wanting a little more than just feeling ok. It's a choice, I did it both ways tried it both ways and decided to go back to trt. I will say I feel a lot better but not miles better that's for sure. Again I am no doctor it's just my 02. As driven said and I said it takes time but your Dr is the one you should listen to. I will say some of them are no where educated on trt. My first endo never even wanted to check my estrogen. I was like are you kidding, told me is was a non factor. That guy was out the minute I heard that. You have to find one that really works with trt patients and understands all aspects of treatment and recovery if needed. Continued luck and you will get there just be patient. Coop