Sudden testicle shrinkage. No libido, fatigue. Varicocele?

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  1. The study was pretty solid and showed testosterone raising by 100-200 on average, that's significant. It is because your balls are producing it, but it is slow to move around your body, the bloodflow isn't carrying it away from your testicles as well as it should. Another study showed 30 times normal levels of testosterone in the prostate - because the blood was pooling in the groin, so all that useful testosterone was going into the prostate instead of in the rest of the body.
    Microsurgery fixed that and testosterone levels returned to normal in the prostate afterwards, and levels increased in the body in general.
    It might not be perfect afterwards, but it will be better, and a step in the right direction.
    Plus, people have greatly increased their total testosterone with diet, lifestyle and exercise.
    As in hundreds of points more.
    Make sure they test both your balls before surgery, as sometimes the vein problems are bilateral, with one varicocele being smaller than the other, usually the right one being much smaller.


  2. K... your hope gives me hope....but like I said read allot of guys got no increase =(
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  3. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...9.00353.x/full

    Search for "testosterone increase microsurgical varicocelectomy" and you should find plenty of reports similar to this one.
    The old fashioned view is that varicocele is a harmless and cosmetic problem, the modern view - following research, is that it affects sperm quality as well as testosterone levels.
    Importantly, it makes for a healthier prostate, as the high doses of testosterone pooling there can cause hyperplasia, swelling of the prostate which can lead to various other problems. The surgery was shown to reverse that.
    I haven't found any side effects to the surgery so far.

  4. Well talked to two uros today said the most of an increase I'd see would be 100 to 150 but it's possible I won't see anything. both did say worry stress will lead to depression which would lead to anxiety which could impact my sleep and libido and testosterone they said 400 is a little low but not dangerous they did say yes a typical guy my age sits at 700 but 400 isn't super dangerous and if I increase it put me to 500 to 550 minus the stress and it could go higher the uro did say after the surgery give it 3 months they will retest and if worse comes to worse the would do Clomid and hcg for a while and see if I can recharge and get out of the rut both did say it's a proven fact stress would impact sex drive libido and testosterone that being said both said get it fixed just do it I see the surgery uro tomorrow

  5. 500 to 700 is normal average he also said do it for fertility purposes Any way he also issued me an Mr I. Just to check my brain and another standing ultra sound to make sure I don't have a right one
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  6. I read ypur article and I guess I don't understand it it says it increases free testosterone in one sentence then in the next says it showed no significant increase...

  7. And how do you know it pools into the prostate?

  8. The prostate information was from another study, which was the relation between varicoceles and prostate enlargement. The veins exiting the scrotum connect with the blood supply of the prostate - and when the veins above this are dilated, the blood flows more easily into those of the prostate.
    This can result in the testosterone passing from the testicles into the prostate in a much higher volume than normal. They said up to 30 times the normal levels, which can cause the cells of the prostate to increase in number, and thereby enlarge the gland.
    The study showed that when the surgery was performed, the testosterone levels in the prostate returned to normal, and the prostate reduced in size.

    This may have been a study involving only men with enlarged prostates and varicoceles, but I would guess that misdirected testosterone would end up in the rest of the body where it belongs.
    As for the other study, have a read of other ones and see if information correllates.

  9. Well I saw the uro today and I'm gonna schedule surgery in September so it will be getting fixed 5 months after occurance and im 26 so we will see if it increases my test if it doesnt then they will try clomid either way I think alot of my problems come from stress i need to work on that....and force myself to get back in the gym.

  10. Hey Wean, how did your surgery go, and have you noticed improvement since?

  11. Just read through the whole 8 pages of this thread and it seems very similar to my situation. I’m a man of 21 and I woke up one day about 1.5 years ago without morning wood and haven’t achieved it properly since. Few days after this my testicles seemed to shrink which was incredibly scary. Tests from doctors all came back as normal and was put down as a psychological problem. I don’t have difficulty obtaining erections during sex but it’s always 70% and never as hard as I used to get - libido is down and I hardly ever get spontaneous erections anymore. Been doing kegels and taking l-arginine and Maca root for a few weeks with little improvement. Have developed insomnia because of this too. Sucks so bad.

  12. Can you post blood results, because what doctors seem to call normal just means "within normal human ranges", meaning a man from ages 18-80 in any level of physical fitness.
    What was the day before you woke up with it like? Did you have the exhausted feeling?
    My sleep hasn't been the same either, mostly that I can't sleep for long periods of uninterrupted sleep.

  13. Also, have you had ecographies of your testicles? Did they check you with the valsalvar maneuver to see if you had a varicocele and/or hernia?
    The more info, the better, maybe we can find a common cause.
    One urologist said to me quite early on "I've been stressed a lot in my life, and my testicles have never shrunk". Also, from everything I've heard from docs and that I've read, lack of morning and nighttime erections mean it isn't psychological, as that is an automatic process.

  14. I stupidly didnt get a copy of my blood tests when I went for them - at that stage I believed the doctor when he said I was 'normal'. Will ring up tomorrow and see if i can get them as it'd be good to know. I have a stage 2/3 variocele on my left testicle and it feels like another is forming on my right.

    Just under a year ago I had variocele embolisation on the left one, and while it hasnt really reduced it in size it has illeviated some of the pain. I wish I got surgery though, apparently its much more effective and its annoying that its still lingering.

    Cant properly remember how I felt before the initial shrink but i'm certain my morning woods stopped and libido dropped before I saw them reduce in size.

    It's rough, I have good days and bad days - I feel blessed that I can still get it up and have sex etc but I should be peaking at my age, not worrying or having only 70% erections. Hope we can find a common cause and common cure.

  15. They should print out all the blood tests if you ask for them, they keep them on the computers.
    Have you noticed any change in your urine stream, is it slightly weaker? Embolisation can be effective too, if you haven't had an ecography in a year then have them scan again, and tell them to check the right carefully too. If anything shows up, you could have microsurgery on left and right if necessary.
    Apparently, zinc, magnesium, boron and B vitamins are good. They might help you sleep too.

  16. I have similar problem... no bucks to go see doctors though... anybody found a solution yet? Was worse at one point been taking vitamins and ate plenty of raw garlic which seemed to help... but still not what it used to be like... mine also started suddenly... after period of extreme stress... had one really nice boner one night... never had the same ever again... 😕

  17. Do you have morning wood, and did you have it regularly before? That's one helpful signifier. Did you have any sensitivity of the nipples? Have your testicles reduced in size?

  18. This is gonna sound too good to be true and may not help everybody but i read up on net a bit and made some minor lifestyle adjustments and can already see great improvement after just couple of days. I cut sugar almost completely from my diet, went back to loose fit boxer shorts, give myself testicle massages �� and being little bit more active... seems to be helping lots... feel better in general...

  19. You would think a urologist could dx and take care of this issue... my goodness!

    I hate seeing posts like this, the reason we have specialists is to be able to dig in and really figure out the root cause and cure. I mean c'mon!

    Hopefully you are doing better now my friend

    Dr B

  20. That's good to hear Prikkel, I hope things continue to improve for you. Post back here when you can, I don't often hear from people who have improved, so any info is good.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by trtdoc View Post
    You would think a urologist could dx and take care of this issue... my goodness!

    I hate seeing posts like this, the reason we have specialists is to be able to dig in and really figure out the root cause and cure. I mean c'mon!

    Hopefully you are doing better now my friend

    Dr B
    I saw perhaps a dozen specialists in all, and nothing has come from it. I think part of the problem is they are too busy to be able to focus on one patient and work out what is wrong. The other problem is that I never saw the same one twice, neither I nor they have any choice about that, it is just the system.
    Last one is, it seems to be an unusual problem, whatever the causes are, and not much research has been done on it, so it depends on a very curious doctor, or one with experience with the same problem.

  22. My story is I took Rogaine and lost my libido and sex drive, then noticed my balls shrunk, found out I had varicocele (sounds crazy) but I’m sure Rogaine was the cause of it. Had my varicocele fixed but not much has changed. My left testicle used to be much larger and feel kinda bumpy and weird to be honest now it’s small and normal. Here’s a link of everyone else who has suffered of this..... let me know if you know of anything that could help plz

  23. Just experience something similar.
    At first, Right testicle has pain, follow by some aching pain. I can feel thick veins at the back and top of the testicle. But I can't feel the swollen veins and no more pain now.
    Symptoms are: sudden lost of libido, no sensation of penis, testicles seem to be smaller, shrinking of penis.

    So far only done the urine test,which show normal results. It's long wait to get appointment for an urologist.
    Dunno what's happened in about a week.

  24. hi Rogaine, the link was removed it looks like, can you post some keywords so it can be found with a search engine?
    I would think Rogaine has an effect on the hormones, which I've read in finasteride for example can lead to testicle atrophy like this. Maybe look into a short term hormone therapy, or 'restart' of your hormonal system. I don't know what exactly, but some people have used HCG and others clomid, and other hormone therapies. Talk with an endocrinologist and also do some research yourself.
    When you say your ball was lumpy, was that all over, or just on the back? Did they give you a scrotal ecography before your varicocele surgery? If you haven't had an ecography, it is worth doing to check your testicles.
    kelcy, you'll know more once you've had a blood test to see your hormone levels. How extreme was the pain? Did the doctor examine your testicles, in case there was a torsion or partial torsion? Ecography would help too to see what is going on, but the urologist should suggest what to do.
    I'd like to know if anyone has fixed this, permanently. I have a feeling that if anyone solves it they don't post about it anywhere, as it isn't on their mind when the problem has gone.

  25. Google “askapatient rogaine” it’s the 2nd link after ad..... that is true that people who support solve the problem don’t want to even think about it, I have emailed hundreds and it takes people who have cured so long to respond to emails but would respond in minutes when they were suffering.... email me [email protected] I’ll share some emails with you..... and endos are no help, I’ve even talked to the leading endo that helped sue Propecia and he was no help either
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