Sub-q video with Dr, Crisler

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  1. On another forum a bunch of guys were reporting that their test levels had fallen after switching to sub q. They had blood tests to support their claims.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by BJE View Post
    On another forum a bunch of guys were reporting that their test levels had fallen after switching to sub q. They had blood tests to support their claims.
    I would use the old "if it ain't broke don't fix it" analogy.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Why would injecting subq require less testosterone for the same effect?? just curious.
    Absorption I imagine. I knew I should have saved that article. I'll see if I can find it at lunch...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BJE View Post
    On another forum a bunch of guys were reporting that their test levels had fallen after switching to sub q. They had blood tests to support their claims.
    Interesting, do you remember which forum?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by BJE View Post
    On another forum a bunch of guys were reporting that their test levels had fallen after switching to sub q. They had blood tests to support their claims.
    I read that too, but 50mg IM jacks my test level waaay up after injection. It's still well over 1000 the day after, and I think the fast rise causes me to have e2 anxiety issues. I've tried 30mg IM twice a week, but my levels didn't stay very consistent. I've heard sub-q causes a longer release, and doesn't raise levels as high. If I can get a smooth 600-800 range I'll be happy.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    Interesting, do you remember which forum?
    I think it was steroidology.com but I can't find the thread.

  7. Should I inject 30mg eod instead? Like Monday, Wednesday, and Friday? Instead of 50mg twice a week? Would this keep test levels and e2 at a better range?

  8. ^^^bump^^^

  9. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Should I inject 30mg eod instead? Like Monday, Wednesday, and Friday? Instead of 50mg twice a week? Would this keep test levels and e2 at a better range?
    I inject every other day, meaning Monday Wednesday Friday Sunday Tuesday Thursday Saturday. I divide my 150mg per week dose and inject .22ml every other day.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by BJE View Post

    I inject every other day, meaning Monday Wednesday Friday Sunday Tuesday Thursday Saturday. I divide my 150mg per week dose and inject .22ml every other day.
    I think I'll try 30mg eod, Monday Wednesday and Friday. I'll just inject on those days, and leave Sunday as a day to allow test levels and e2 to lower a bit. Would it really matter if I injected that small of an amount IM or sub-q? I'd rather just inject IM with a 25g 5/8" needle.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by BJE View Post

    I inject every other day, meaning Monday Wednesday Friday Sunday Tuesday Thursday Saturday. I divide my 150mg per week dose and inject .22ml every other day.
    Do you have labs on this protocol?

    <----thinking about going sub q

  12. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    Do you have labs on this protocol?

    <----thinking about going sub q
    I had labs done last month. I was on 100mg per week at the time. I wanted to test at the low point but couldn't decide which day that would be. I ended up testing on the morning of the day between injections. I was a little disappointed that the result was total T 659 range 240-950. Free T 122 range 47-244. Bioavailable T 285 range 130-680. Free and bio T were still in the lower half of the range. I suspect that every other day dosing might give me a range of about 600-700 total T. My doctor said everything was fine because I'm in the range. I convinced him that if I'm going to be on TRT I had just as well at least be in the upper half of the ranges so he increased my dose to 150mg per week.

  13. I had a 3-4 month today with my doc and discussed the fact that I am doing 50mg every 3.5 days and he said he doesn't give a **** what I do in between our meetings as long as I am happy. lol. He said, "I prescribe you 1 x 200mg every 3 months and I expect you to test in normal limits and come in every 3 months for labs. If you want to inject 7 days a week, I don't care. Just keep it healthy and in normal levels. My only goal is your health and happiness."

    I love my doc.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    He said, "I prescribe you 1 x 200mg every 3 months
    Now I know that i'm not reading this right, he prescribes you one 200mg dose every 3 months?

  15. What, is that not normal? lol

    Yeah, I wrote that wrong. I get a vial every 3 months.
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