Want to Switch to Safest Testosterone
- 03-21-2013, 12:02 PM
Want to Switch to Safest Testosterone
Hi Everyone,I am 28 years old and was prescribed testosterone because my TT was 340. (5g Androgel 1%, equivalent to about 5 mg of testosterone a day).However, I worry that this isn't the safest thing to do. (I've heard Anavar, etc. are safer). Can you guys recommend the healthiest way to do non-cycle, long-term therapy. (i.e. 5 mg of Oxandrolone a day).Thanks
- 03-21-2013, 06:34 PM
03-21-2013, 06:47 PM
1. Okay, so Androgel 5g at 1% is okay for this long-term use?2. Do I need to worry about anything, such as aromatization, DHT conversion, etc.?3. Is there anything else I should be doing? (Heart Support, etc.).Thanks
03-21-2013, 07:12 PM
I take one erase per day and a good saw palmetto extract for estrogen and prostate issues. You are young though...i would exhaust all avenues before starting trt . This advice is for if you decide to move forward . Im on 10g right now...5g seems to only be good enough to get back to your pre trt test level in my experience or a little above.
03-21-2013, 07:50 PM
Has your doctor given you any insights as to how long and or if this could be a temporary state?, as you are only 28. Or maybe I should say, do not be afraid to ask him absolutely everything that is on your mind. You are paying him remember, and he is working for you, so you get to ask him anything that concerns you or your health.
I know a young guy mid to late 30's I believe, that only had to be on some maintenance dosages for a bit, but his natural levels began to rebound and he was cleared off them.
There can be options, so don't look at it like a necessarily bad thing.
03-22-2013, 12:54 PM
1. So, in summary, my Androgel (5g, 5% solution = 5mg a day) is the safest for me to take for a long period of time?
2. Do you guys have research I can read?
(I love to read the research and know my stuff).
3. I know you said there were other supplements; would it be wise to invest in any of them? (Like heart support, estrogen blockers, etc.).
03-22-2013, 05:53 PM
03-22-2013, 08:27 PM
Okay. So, what should I be doing with my TRT?
1. Eating a low-fat, heart healthy diet?
(i.e. predominantly vegetarian, less red meat and sweets).
2. What should I do about estrogen conversion and shutting down my body's own production?
03-23-2013, 12:03 AM
as far as shutting down your own testosterone? that is the whole idea here, not sure why you are concerned with that? if that concerns you, then trt is not for you. trt supplies a source of exogenous test into your system, and shuts you down to essentially zero endogenous test production. If you don't want to shut yourself down long term, then do as many in here would suggest and try clomid or troubleshoot all the other possibilities for your low test result.
The diet? I am a macro guy personally....I set my macros up, 250 grams protein, 250 grams of carbs and 90 grams of fat (just random #'s here) and I eat whatever I want in order to get to my macros/calorie amount I am looking for. The higher quality the protein and fats the better your results will be of course...carbs? I think they are just fuel and who cares what kind of carbs you take in. But again, diet is up to you...good fats are more desirable than trans-fats obviously. There is no specific diet that complements trt, same as with cycles. It varies person to person, and varies as to what your goals are (cutting, recomp, bulk, maintenance....). trt is just going to get your test levels to where they should be if your endocrine system was functioning optimally and producing high test #'s (as in not 200 or 300 or 400, but 600's to 1000 range), its not like you are taking in supra physiological amounts of test here that require major alterations in your diet.
03-23-2013, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the info.
My fear of shutting down my endogenous production is that my testicles will atrophy, I will not be able to have children, and that I won't be able to boost it up to my normal level again if I need to. Are these fears well founded? (I just don't want to ruin my health over this stuff)
03-23-2013, 02:26 PM
03-23-2013, 02:41 PM
So, then, what do you suggest I do in this situation?
1. Call the doctor who prescribed me and ask if I should stop or not?
2. Get another doctor, such as an endocrinologist or urologist?
3. Do nothing, and keep with the course?
03-23-2013, 03:10 PM
03-23-2013, 03:30 PM
1. I have done pro-hormones, about 8 years ago. But, I never did them for more than a month at a time. (And did some sporadic afterwrds).
However, I did plenty of 6-oxo, tribulus, or other ways to get things up.
2. I just got out of the military and have no insurance. However, I'm about to move to a job in the Middle East, where I get free insurance.
It sounds like I should talk to a doctor immediately, since I've only been on it for a few days now.
03-23-2013, 03:43 PM
03-23-2013, 03:50 PM
1. What's the "SD" you're referring to that shuts me down?
2. To me, the 340 just seems too low. I mean that's 2-3rd percentile for my age. That's way to low and probably explains why I've had so much trouble gaining muscle or losing fat for my age.
3. I've been doing the test for about five days now. Can I just stop, without any other stuff, and not have issues?
03-23-2013, 04:11 PM
03-23-2013, 04:15 PM
Simple answer...no joke either....unless your not telling us the whole scope. You have probably the best support anyone can have.....your doctor who can test and react to your levels. I'm assuming your going to a specialized endocrinologist right?
03-23-2013, 06:54 PM
No, I was just going to a military doctor who looked at my TT levels and was on the fence. He thought it might be good for me to get it up, since I was feeling run down.
1. Who else tells me I should stop now, at the five day mark?
2. How long can I do this small amount of androgel, without shutting down my own body's production?
(Scientific research would be appreciated).
3. What natural stuff can I do to raise my level of testostorone, should I stop taking it?
(Alternative medicine doctors from Southern California will propose all sorts of stuff, look at delgadoprotocol to see; but, who knows the real answers).
03-24-2013, 12:26 PM
If you have only been on that short of a time, don't even sweat it. I would just stop now and go see a specialist. If they decide you do need to be on something, likely they will try to kick start you on Clomid. That seems to be the standard based on the endos I've visited and talked to.
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