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  1.  03-07-2013  05:18 PM
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    Before going to any GH boosters, i would suggest to look at what is causing poor sleep hygiene. Is it neurotransmitters, cortisol, food intolerance, poor lifestyles, ect. There is always a cause and effect relationship. There also may be a conversion issue with gh in the liver. This is why I like rhein lab 24 hour GH test.

    Originally Posted by bruschi11 View Post
    Just asking for one more piece of advice Matrix if you can help...

    I got bloods back last week while on the clomid/aromasin and paleo diet. Btw I was on Aromasin during my first blood work as well. Test went from 710 to 1426, estradiol 29 to 45 while IGF1 sunk down from 195 to 64. Yes, 64, not 164. 64.... Because of this low number, my doc prescribed a pituitary MRI for tomorrow and a stimulation test in two weeks.

    I decided to start a ghrp/ghrh combo upon wake up and before bed. Ipamorelin and Mod GRF 1-29 twice daily, 100 mcg each per shot. I began late last week. The doc will be taking bloods just for IGF1 early next week to see how I've reacted to this blend as well.

    How would you think I'd react to this blend and how quickly can it cause IGF1 to rise? Would you say its safe to safe I'm GH deficient with an IGF1 of 64? Or do you think there is just a serious problem with GH being converted to IGF1 in my system?

    Any thoughts would be great.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.



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    Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Before going to any GH boosters, i would suggest to look at what is causing poor sleep hygiene. Is it neurotransmitters, cortisol, food intolerance, poor lifestyles, ect. There is always a cause and effect relationship. There also may be a conversion issue with gh in the liver. This is why I like rhein lab 24 hour GH test.
    Yup, I'm getting a 3 hour stimulation test, I believe Glucagen in two weeks. In the meantime, I'm feeling good on the peptides. Started GHRP-2/Mod-GRF in the morning this week along with the IPA/Mod-GRF at night. GHRP-2 is making me crazy hungry so I guess that means its working. I'm also feeling a lot better in my workouts with fuller muscles and more vascularity while there's a slight decrease in anxiety. Crossing my fingers its not a placebo affect and this is the solution here.

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    Originally Posted by bruschi11 View Post
    Just asking for one more piece of advice Matrix if you can help...

    I got bloods back last week while on the clomid/aromasin and paleo diet. Btw I was on Aromasin during my first blood work as well. Test went from 710 to 1426, estradiol 29 to 45 while IGF1 sunk down from 195 to 64. Yes, 64, not 164. 64.... Because of this low number, my doc prescribed a pituitary MRI for tomorrow and a stimulation test in two weeks.

    I decided to start a ghrp/ghrh combo upon wake up and before bed. Ipamorelin and Mod GRF 1-29 twice daily, 100 mcg each per shot. I began late last week. The doc will be taking bloods just for IGF1 early next week to see how I've reacted to this blend as well.

    How would you think I'd react to this blend and how quickly can it cause IGF1 to rise? Would you say its safe to safe I'm GH deficient with an IGF1 of 64? Or do you think there is just a serious problem with GH being converted to IGF1 in my system?

    Any thoughts would be great.
    I would get a 24 hour gh urinary done by meridan valley, or another lab which test GH levels. Your best bang for your buck is Rhein lab which your Dr can order for you. Employees get 20% off..cough cough... I would also check your sleep hygiene as this is a huge factor in GH production along with DHEA-s levels.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    DHEA-S went from 210 to 500 after the use of clomid. What do you consider sleep hygiene? Sleep and hygiene? Sleep has been good and I shower twice daily so I'm pretty set there if thats the case :-). I'm desperately awaiting the results to this MRI. I just don't see how my IGF1 went from 195 to 64 within two months. The only thing I added to the mix was clomid. I just feel there's got to be something wrong whether its the Pituitary or the Liver. Either I'm not making much GH or its not being converted.

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    Originally Posted by bruschi11 View Post
    DHEA-S went from 210 to 500 after the use of clomid. What do you consider sleep hygiene? Sleep and hygiene? Sleep has been good and I shower twice daily so I'm pretty set there if thats the case :-). I'm desperately awaiting the results to this MRI. I just don't see how my IGF1 went from 195 to 64 within two months. The only thing I added to the mix was clomid. I just feel there's got to be something wrong whether its the Pituitary or the Liver. Either I'm not making much GH or its not being converted.
    May sleep good but probAbly.not getting restorative sleep. Big.difference.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    Matrix - See you posting in every thread about building the base - GI/thyroid/Adrenal base/sleep/nutrition, etc.
    For younger guys, do you see value in taking clomid/AI/test as a "bridge"? Or is it better to fix everything else first?

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