Whats your protocol and why?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by carnivore24 View Post
    Just thought I throw this out [email protected] 240mg/week test cyp, I was 1850 36 hours post injection and 1150, six hours before next injection. Blood draws were taken within the same week so that's a very accurate fluctuation represented in one shot.

    Yeah I know to high for trt but my doc wanted to try it, and I've cycled before so I'm good with it. As for why I had blood draws done twice in a week. I was curious....
    that's not trt, that's a cycle...

    i'd be interested what your hgb and hct were...

  2. Stupes
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    Quote Originally Posted by carnivore24 View Post
    Just thought I throw this out [email protected] 240mg/week test cyp, I was 1850 36 hours post injection and 1150, six hours before next injection. Blood draws were taken within the same week so that's a very accurate fluctuation represented in one shot.

    Yeah I know to high for trt but my doc wanted to try it, and I've cycled before so I'm good with it. As for why I had blood draws done twice in a week. I was curious....
    What was your e2 at? Were you on any anti-e?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by carnivore24 View Post
    Just thought I throw this out [email protected] 240mg/week test cyp, I was 1850 36 hours post injection and 1150, six hours before next injection. Blood draws were taken within the same week so that's a very accurate fluctuation represented in one shot.

    Yeah I know to high for trt but my doc wanted to try it, and I've cycled before so I'm good with it. As for why I had blood draws done twice in a week. I was curious....
    I find this very hard to believe and if it is true, I'd be running out of the office of a doctor that wanted to "try" a cycle level dose of test on me. Nice to be a guinea pig when dealing with your hormones. oi vey

  4. Yeah I know its a cycle dose. As I stated. Mainly I have that high of a dose because I want to be on that high. My thc and hemo were right in the middle don't know them off the top of my head. And the doc is an Endo who rarely does trt, mainly diabetics. He started me at 50mg/ week.... and I so have low t and had blood tests from 5 years back that all came back below 250 prob 10 of them. And I'm not advocating using 240 a week because plain and simple its misuse I just thought people might wanna have an idea where that dose puts you. And the swing a once a week injection has. Also prolactin was 26 which is 7 points high. And e2 was 49 which the limit was 50. I have always been estrogen sensitive though (have probs even at 100 a week). I wasn't on an AI then but have since run low dose letro

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    1) just use more cyp/enanth instead of shooting AND applying gel - it's retarded. Shoot twice a week to keep levels stable. A lot of doctors prescribe between 100-200, depending on the individual reaction to the dose.
    2) find a test level that keeps your e2 in range so you don't need to add a drug like adex at all
    3) staying on caber for 3+ months is running a serious risk of burning out your dopamine receptors, like what meth users do to themselves - DON'T do this - holy crap dude.
    4) prolactin will not be an issue if you have anything remotely close to a true trt dose.
    5) caber and adex are not covered by most insurances for trt patients
    6) 200mg test cyp plus gel is no longer a trt dose.

    not true, most docs will go 100mg/wk, not 200, and only enough to bump you into the clinical normal range which may be alot lower then where you want it to be. regarding the prolactin, .5 mg/wk caber is not going to do that and prolactin is an issue with the ghrp, not the test cyp/enanth. there's nothing wrong with taking adex and the test levels I want to be at if i'm going to permanently shut down my hpta axis on TRT is gonna be ~1200ng/dl which will more than likely require some form af anti-e. Adex is covered by mine in generic form: $20 for 90 day supply, caber/dostinex is also covered but is also available overseas. As said perviously 100 mg/wk test cyp is not going to put someone starting under 250 ng/dl up to 1200 ng/dl however when combined with the gel it will certainly help, especially if the doc is hesitant to raise the test cyp dose, he's more likely to prescribe the gel if you ask since its more practical for traveling etc..


    you can google dostinex or cabergoline for life extension or similiar to find detailed info on that.

    anyway this would be my protocol based on what i want out of a trt program if i'm going to take the plunge into a permanent type hormone manipulation program.. building a better body through science as bill phillips old muscle media 20000 catch phrase used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abs322 View Post
    not true, most docs will go 100mg/wk, not 200, and only enough to bump you into the clinical normal range which may be alot lower then where you want it to be. regarding the prolactin, .5 mg/wk caber is not going to do that and prolactin is an issue with the ghrp, not the test cyp/enanth. there's nothing wrong with taking adex and the test levels I want to be at if i'm going to permanently shut down my hpta axis on TRT is gonna be ~1200ng/dl which will more than likely require some form af anti-e. Adex is covered by mine in generic form: $20 for 90 day supply, caber/dostinex is also covered but is also available overseas. As said perviously 100 mg/wk test cyp is not going to put someone starting under 250 ng/dl up to 1200 ng/dl however when combined with the gel it will certainly help, especially if the doc is hesitant to raise the test cyp dose, he's more likely to prescribe the gel if you ask since its more practical for traveling etc..


    you can google dostinex or cabergoline for life extension or similiar to find detailed info on that.

    anyway this would be my protocol based on what i want out of a trt program if i'm going to take the plunge into a permanent type hormone manipulation program.. building a better body through science as bill phillips old muscle media 20000 catch phrase used to be.
    You are a moron. I am done with this.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Stupes View Post
    You are a moron. I am done with this.
    perhaps you need to change your screenename to stupid instead of stupes?? eh
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    Quote Originally Posted by abs322 View Post

    perhaps you need to change your screenename to stupid instead of stupes?? eh
    Agreed - I am dumber after simply reading your idiotic protocol.....
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