Wanted to know if free testosterone level of 643.0 pg/mL is good

[hawaiijedi]

I have been on weekly TRT injections of 200mg of test cypionate for about 2 months now and my total test and free was 1908 ng/dL and my free testosterone is at 643.0 pg/mL. I am new to TRT and was wondering if those are high and good levels or just average levels on TRT with test cyp injections. I also take 1mg of anastrazole 2 or 3 times a week and my Estradiol level is 12pg/mL. I am 38 yrs old and train hard in the gym. I appreciate any help and feedback and look forward to your replies.

[The Matrix]

I have been on weekly TRT injections of 200mg of test cypionate for about 2 months now and my total test and free was 1908 ng/dL and my free testosterone is at 643.0 pg/mL. I am new to TRT and was wondering if those are high and good levels or just average levels on TRT with test cyp injections. I also take 1mg of anastrazole 2 or 3 times a week and my Estradiol level is 12pg/mL. I am 38 yrs old and train hard in the gym. I appreciate any help and feedback and look forward to your replies.

You are asking for potential major complications from down stream of the effect from higher testosterone on cortisol, thyroid and other bones issues.
Its not about hard training in the Gym, but getting a better quality of life. Sounds to me like a cookie cutter approach from testosterone mill

[napalm]

1908? Bro, that's a bit much. I'm really surprised lately how many guys are coming to the forum saying they're starting out at 200/week. In one of the few times I'm in agreement w matrix, this appears like a 'shotgun' approach to trt. Your e2 is a little on the low side as well. Remember, you do need SOME estrogen bud. IMO, you should talk to your doc about dropping the dose of the test and everything else. I'd start out at 50 twice a week, evaluate how you feel, and adjust from there...

[hawaiijedi]

Thanks for your replies, what is the level of estrogen I should be at? Since mine was 12? Also with those levels how long could I safely run that without damaging thyroid? I will run labs again at the end of the month and maybe drop down dose. I will talk to my doc as well. I think that the low number of estrogen could be the reason for my low libido despite high test numbers. I take 1mg 3 times a week of anastrazole what do you guys recommend for the dosage? Thanks for your help.

[napalm]

Thanks for your replies, what is the level of estrogen I should be at? Since mine was 12? Also with those levels how long could I safely run that without damaging thyroid? I will run labs again at the end of the month and maybe drop down dose. I will talk to my doc as well. I think that the low number of estrogen could be the reason for my low libido despite high test numbers. I take 1mg 3 times a week of anastrazole what do you guys recommend for the dosage? Thanks for your help.

I think that you should talk to your doc bro, if you try 50/twice a week you might feel great and not need any of the other stuff. I'm on 75/twice a week and don't take anything other than one erase a day 5 on 2 off. Multiple injections per week is the way to go.

Good luck...

[hawaiijedi]

Thanks napalm appreciate the advice. So your libido is good with the twice weekly at 75? If you don't mind me asking what are your estrogen numbers?

[alpinecoach]

I think that you should talk to your doc bro, if you try 50/twice a week you might feel great and not need any of the other stuff. I'm on 75/twice a week and don't take anything other than one erase a day 5 on 2 off. Multiple injections per week is the way to go.

Good luck...

I am in complete agreement, lower dose 2x/week and it cruise control. I use the same protocol with erase and my E2 stays arount 25-30.

[napalm]

Thanks napalm appreciate the advice. So your libido is good with the twice weekly at 75? If you don't mind me asking what are your estrogen numbers?

dude, i feel great. i'll be getting labs drawn in a couple weeks, e2 done when i was on 50/twice weekly was 43, which for my lab is high normal. that's one of the reasons i picked up a bottle of erase, so we'll see what the labs say. i've had really no symptoms of high estrogen, except MAYBE a couple extra pounds of water, which could also be from the creatine i take, so who knows. i'm hoping the erase brings it down to like in the 20's.

even when i was at 50/twice a week i wanted to screw everything that walks, not much change there since i went up to 75/twice a week. wife loves it...

[napalm]

I am in complete agreement, lower dose 2x/week and it cruise control. I use the same protocol with erase and my E2 stays arount 25-30.

awesome, that's what i like to hear. do you take 1/day 5 on 2 off?

[alpinecoach]

awesome, that's what i like to hear. do you take 1/day 5 on 2 off?

1 per day, 5 on 2 off. I was taking 2 per day, but E2 was getting to low, libido started to suffer just a little. Cut it back to 1 and things are going/ feeling good.

[hawaiijedi]

So I guess with my level being at 12 for estrogen that is why my libido is low despite the huge test numbers. Thanks for all your guys help and I am glad you're doing well.

[vassille]

So I guess with my level being at 12 for estrogen that is why my libido is low despite the huge test numbers. Thanks for all your guys help and I am glad you're doing well.

Believe it or not you would get better errections at a lower dose of test. Bring your test into range(less than 1200) and keep E2 around 20 and see what happens.

[hawaiijedi]

So having the high numbers of test that I had isn't good for erections and libido?

[Sourdough]

dude, i feel great. i'll be getting labs drawn in a couple weeks, e2 done when i was on 50/twice weekly was 43, which for my lab is high normal. that's one of the reasons i picked up a bottle of erase, so we'll see what the labs say. i've had really no symptoms of high estrogen, except MAYBE a couple extra pounds of water, which could also be from the creatine i take, so who knows. i'm hoping the erase brings it down to like in the 20's.

even when i was at 50/twice a week i wanted to screw everything that walks, not much change there since i went up to 75/twice a week. wife loves it...

Do you mind updating us on your next test about how erase is going controlling your e2?

And to be clear...did you get bumped to 75mg twice a week AND start erase simultaneously?(since your last blood test)

[napalm]

Do you mind updating us on your next test about how erase is going controlling your e2?

And to be clear...did you get bumped to 75mg twice a week AND start erase simultaneously?(since your last blood test)

Hey sourdough, what's up? No problem dude, I already intended to post my labs. I really can't wait to get them done. I'm going to call and make the appt today.

To answer your second question, it was about a month after I went up to 75/week before I started the erase. I've been on the erase now for I think 3 weeks, I think that's enough time for any effects to take place.

My last labs were done in August, test level was like 380 six days after injection so my endo bumped me up and said it was ok to start pinning twice a week.

Since then WOO HOO

Again, I'd like to point out I've had no symptoms of high e2.

[alpinecoach]

Believe it or not you would get better errections at a lower dose of test. Bring your test into range(less than 1200) and keep E2 around 20 and see what happens.

This is spot on for me, test at 1200 and E2 at 25 and things are good.

[vassille]

So having the high numbers of test that I had isn't good for erections and libido?

not really and im taking from experience.

[vassille]

This is spot on for me, test at 1200 and E2 at 25 and things are good.

Same here my numbers are similar to yours

[hawaiijedi]

Thanks so much guys one more question if you don't mind, is that 1200 number for total testosterone or just free testosterone?

[alpinecoach]

That's total, my free test is 300. A free of 1200 is through the roof!!