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  1. it took me almost 6 months to get to normal levels at 100 milligrams per week. so 3 weeks in to 100 milligrams a week it may still be low if your at all like me


  2. For what its worth, yesterday I actually read the paper that came in my test cyp rx from the manufacturer. It stated that the half life is 8 days. But what confused me is that it also said to administer every 2-3 weeks.
    The end who prescribed it to me said "it's come a long way...it used to be prescribed as 1 injection every 4-5 weeks." Anyway, he prescribed me self inject @200 every 2 weeks which he called "a hefty dosage" but disagreed at 100/week. Well, since I self inject, I go 100/ week.
    My new doctor, anti-aging, sees things more in line with what I see. Just my 2 cents
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    For what its worth, yesterday I actually read the paper that came in my test cyp rx from the manufacturer. It stated that the half life is 8 days. But what confused me is that it also said to administer every 2-3 weeks.
    The end who prescribed it to me said "it's come a long way...it used to be prescribed as 1 injection every 4-5 weeks." Anyway, he prescribed me self inject @200 every 2 weeks which he called "a hefty dosage" but disagreed at 100/week. Well, since I self inject, I go 100/ week.
    My new doctor, anti-aging, sees things more in line with what I see. Just my 2 cents
    I wonder if the endo knew that half of 200 is 100 before he disagreed.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj

    I wonder if the endo knew that half of 200 is 100 before he disagreed.
    Thanks to the advice on this forum, I went to 4 doctors and didn't stop until I was satisfied. I mean look, some doctors are just "qualified" guys who can write prescriptions. They all have their own opinions. Keep fishing until you're satisfied with your catch. A doctor should be seen as a partner to assist you with your journey to improved health, not as an all-knowing dictator (like the endo I saw)

  5. Exactly.

    It's our bodies and health. We owe it to ourselves to be educated and then use the doctors and specialists as a supporting staff. Obviously we depend on them for things we cannot know or understand without professional guidance, but it's still not an excuse to go in blind.

  6. Has anyone ever used a compounding pharmacy before? The reason I ask is my doctor wrote my script out for a 10ml vial and my CVS said it had been on back order for months, but a local compounding pharmacy has it on hand.

  7. I get my 10ml vital from my insurance company mail order pharmacy without problems...you might want to see if you have something like that, for me it is also the best price.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post
    As an update I went to my new doctor today and I am pleased with the results. We discussed different options, gave some blood, recieved a shot and scheduled a return visit in two weeks. He is leaning towards weekly shots with me doing them myself. So it looks like I might have found a good one.
    I am glad he is letting you do the shots yourself. Once you get to a stable level and you and your doctor are satisfied with the result, then you may want to try more frequent injections to see how you feel.

    I think part of the reason that doctors want to inject every 2-4 weeks is that they think a patient wouldn't want to come into the office more often than that, and that people don't like shots therefore they are trying to minimize the number of shots. Self injecting solves the first issue, being a man and getting over the fear of shots solves the second issue.

  9. I gave myself my first shot today and it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. I go back in three weeks for another blood test. My last blood test ten days after a shot of 200 ml had my test at only 277 so we shall see how 100 ml every 7 days does.

  10. It takes awhile to fine tune the proper dosage for each individual. My doc just bumped me up to 120/wk from 100. He wants my level to be around 800 (the endo wanted me at 300 so I'm stoked to see what 800 is like)
    Did your doc tell you what he wants your test level to be?
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  11. Mine was content with high 600s but that was at 4pm so that leads me to assume it was probably around 750-800 in early am hours

  12. Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post
    I gave myself my first shot today and it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. I go back in three weeks for another blood test. My last blood test ten days after a shot of 200 ml had my test at only 277 so we shall see how 100 ml every 7 days does.
    One thing to remember is that it may take as many as eight to twelve weeks for you to get a stable level. Because of the half life, each week when you get a shot you will have more left over in your body than the last shot up until you reach a stable level. Front loading with about three times your weekly dose will bring you to a stable level much more quickly, but doctors probably aren't into doing such things. If you have your level checked after only a few weeks your level will probably be a fair amount lower than it will be in a couple of months.

  13. It took me six months for my levels to stabilize.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s
    It took me six months for my levels to stabilize.
    Took me two weeks.. Weird

  15. Well I think we just proved you are not me......and I am most definitely not you....

  16. Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s
    Well I think we just proved you are not me......and I am most definitely not you....
    U sure?

  17. whoa man, you guys are blowing my mind

    heavy

  18. Focus, grasshopper, focus

  19. The doctor is shooting for mid 600s....where I was when I was on two androderm patches a day.

  20. Hey big T . I'm switching tomorrow bc the patches r giving me crazy itchy rash/burns! You found the gel to be effective?

  21. So my dr switched me to gel 1.62% 2 pumps a day.. He said apply it anywhere but the androgel site says upper Arms and shoulders only.. That's all covered in tats soooooo wtf do I do lol

    Edit: this Is 283mg weekly.. The patches were giving me 14.. Lol uh...

  22. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza
    Hey big T . I'm switching tomorrow bc the patches r giving me crazy itchy rash/burns! You found the gel to be effective?
    I always put my patches on my thigh with no problems.....

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bigt405

    I always put my patches on my thigh with no problems.....
    Yea they've been given me bad rashes suddenly.. So I got the 1.62% gel.. Not sure where to put it.. Don't think I shuld be rubbing it over My tattoos... Which only leaves me with a SMALL upper shoulder/chest area on ONE side and my stomach... Which he said was ok but the directions r pretty explicit to not apply anywhere but shoulders/upper arms!

  24. Sorry, I can not help with the gel. I chose not to try it. Just seemed to big of a hassle to me with my lifestyle.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bigt405
    Sorry, I can not help with the gel. I chose not to try it. Just seemed to big of a hassle to me with my lifestyle.
    It's cool, I hear you.. None of it is really user friendly lol

  26. One of the things I like about injecting is that I no longer have to worry about where to put it, having it rub off on others, and scheduling showers around my testosterone.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by BJE
    One of the things I like about injecting is that I no longer have to worry about where to put it, having it rub off on others, and scheduling showers around my testosterone.
    Yea I hear that. I just don't need a high enough dose to warrant injections. I was hoping I would get them simply for the reasons you listed. But it's also good I'm not there right now. I'm only 24

  28. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yea I hear that. I just don't need a high enough dose to warrant injections. I was hoping I would get them simply for the reasons you listed. But it's also good I'm not there right now. I'm only 24
    Well, I'm double your age, I am 48. If I was 24 I wouldn't be in a hurry to start on testosterone. I don't understand what you mean by not needing a high enough dose to warrant injections. 283mg of test in gel per week seems like a pretty high dose to me. At least it seem that would be enough to shut your natural production down.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by BJE
    Well, I'm double your age, I am 48. If I was 24 I wouldn't be in a hurry to start on testosterone. I don't understand what you mean by not needing a high enough dose to warrant injections. 283mg of test in gel per week seems like a pretty high dose to me. At least it seem that would be enough to shut your natural production down.
    Avi looks good for 48 man!

    I wasn't in a hurry believe me. My levels were 288 and dropping fast over preceding months. I felt and looked AWFUL, every day was hell.

    I was informed that only ~10% of that total dose makes it into your blood actually. So it's 28mg a week.. The patch was giving me 14-15.. It's time released as well, as opposed to just working off the half life of an injection..

  30. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Avi looks good for 48 man!

    I wasn't in a hurry believe me. My levels were 288 and dropping fast over preceding months. I felt and looked AWFUL, every day was hell.

    I was informed that only ~10% of that total dose makes it into your blood actually. So it's 28mg a week.. The patch was giving me 14-15.. It's time released as well, as opposed to just working off the half life of an injection..
    You're right on the low absorption rate. I wasn't thinking straight. I was thinking 283 per day. Before I switched to injections I was doing 190mg test cream per day. How are you doing on the low dose? It seems that with low doses your body usually just lowers it's own production and you end up increasing the dose until you have a full replacement dose.
  

  
 

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