Time frame to reduce SHBG & feel normal again?
- 05-14-2014, 03:50 PM
Bit of a downer. Dr. did not redo liver ALT/AST but rather various Hepatitits, IGF-1,etc.
Everything negative(Hep) or normal except
My IGF-1 is 262nl/ml on a scale of 67-205.
I am rescheduled for a full panel on May 23. No lifting until then. I requested he do a GGT.
Should I be concerned at the high IGF-1? IGFBP-3 was well within normal range
- 05-14-2014, 04:15 PM
05-14-2014, 04:30 PM
06-20-2014, 11:07 AM
01-20-2015, 03:41 PM
Thought to update this thread. Annual physical exam results back. Blood work is fine.
Serum T 779
Free T9 (low but explained below)
All other values in line except...
My Iron (Ferrintin IIRC) and related red blood values were low as in anemia levels which depress Testosterone. Apparently perennial vigourous exercise depletes iron more swiftly than otherwise. Drastically reduced the amount of red meat in my diet a few months ago.(I also regularly give blood as it is a special type) Previously I ate red meat 3 and 5x per week. I have to increase my intake of iron rich foods or supplement or both.
Thought to pass it on as an FYI regarding watch your iron levels. I workout very hard every day and only rest when CNS is an issue.
Strange, I felt no fatigue or other symptoms of low iron. Dr. said it was because I am in top shape.
04-24-2015, 02:46 PM
Thought to update again. Bloodwork came back.
Iron levels are normal again. Serum T is 830, Free T11.3 SHBG is 60 DHT is 46-(top end of scale)
Clean bill of health. I did not know about DHT until advised on this occasion.
NB: I stopped donating blood.
04-24-2015, 04:30 PM
thanks for the long term updates. too often these things never get shared and we all wonder what happened (especially if we are in the same boat).
12-30-2015, 02:02 PM
Well annual physical results came back today to update this thread.
Total T 690 scale 250-1100
Free T 61.3 scale 46-224
Bioavailable T 123.5 scale 110-575
SHBG 50 scale 10-50
DHT 43 scale 16-79
Preg 32 scale 13-208
Estradiol 21 scale less than or equal to 29
DHEA 141 scale 80-560
LH 4.1 scale 1.5-9.3
My anemia is gone as Ferritin and Iron levels are back to normal. No longer donate blood.
Cholesterol values are outstanding
Picture of good health.
Dr. was happy. I am not as I see my T declining from when I first started back in 2012.(but I had high SHBG back then see first post) I recall what someone here wrote about their SHBG being in locked step with their total T. I feel good and train hard seven days per week. Eat well. Good libido. Sex every day. But I see the Free T on the low end of the scale and wonder if I could be better. Dr. Does HRT at his clinic but said no to me as I do not fit the criteria either in test results or factors mentioned above- energy, libido, mood, etc.
Dr. did say my DHEA and Preg should be higher and put me back on OTC Preg. I stopped for the previous 8 months or so.
Wonder what I can do to gain more Free T. I mean in 2012 I was more than middle range, then a bit less than middle range and now low end of the range.
NB: Not into selfie pics but I took a recent one from August so you see how much improvement there has been since pic in avatar. Its in the album. So I do not think it is BF that is causing the issue.
01-04-2016, 11:25 PM
01-05-2016, 08:53 AM
You know I reread my posts and realized how miserable I felt in 2012 compared to how good I feel now. I should not be complaining about a test result if everything else is going well.
01-05-2016, 11:08 AM
If you feel fine and things are working, then you can relax a bit. If things aren't perfect, you can still pursue more information and improvements. I'm glad things became better for you.
06-29-2016, 10:27 AM
Thought to update. Bi-annual blood draw for physical results are in
Total T 765 scale 348-1197
Free T 12.1 scale 7.2-24.0
SHBG 55 scale 19.3-76.4
DHT 43 scale 16-79
Preg 139 scale 13-208
Estradiol 19.8 scale 8.0-35.0
DHEA 214.9 scale 71.6-375.4
LH 3.6 scale 1.7-8.6
Everything else just picture of solid health at least as far a blood, lungs, etc can be tested.
Feel great. Well, except for a recent strained shoulder. But you know feel great in general.
Last edited by UCSMiami; 06-30-2016 at 06:04 AM. Reason: typo correction
06-29-2016, 11:40 AM
Your testosterone has gone up significantly, and free T too - more importantly you are feeling good.
Has your muscle mass gone up?
06-29-2016, 01:03 PM
Thanks. Folks say I appear so.(the pic is from 2012. Build is entirely different now)
I have gotten stronger.
My total T was 970 in 2012 before lifting weights but SHBG was very high then. see earlier posts.
06-29-2016, 04:11 PM
06-29-2016, 10:36 PM
Another guy on here said testosterone isn't the most important factor, and that it is more about the balance of hormones with one another. Sounds like yours is running really well now. I appreciate the info you drop here, I think most people when they solve things just disappear and we never see that knowledge.
Are there any other habits that have set you on the right track?
06-30-2016, 05:19 AM
I would say solid sleep. Started taking 1000mcg of B12 before bed and it induces a deep sleep. Feel wonderful in the morning without drowsiness. Did have sleep issues on/off prior to using the above.
06-30-2016, 06:25 PM
That's quite useful to know, I've been sleeping badly for months, I don't know what's up. I'll look for b12 and try as you said.
07-12-2016, 01:58 PM
07-12-2016, 02:03 PM
Dr. thought I had an internal inflammation of the. liver. Attending to that brought down the SHBG in the first instance. Stress levels have also come down.(I was having wicked women issues) Total t went down as well. Do not know what comes first in terms of biological process ( or maybe they are intertwined.)- Total T or SHBG in production. When total t was high, shbg was high. I sleep quite well now and do not overtrain.-no late night training. Have a good woman with me now so life is calm.
Liver values were good at the outset. As mentioned that is not necessarily an indicator of other problems.
I still take milk thistle every now and then.
07-13-2016, 08:55 AM
As an experiment this week I did not consume B-12 before sleep.(did the usual zinc, magnesium, vit b6) On all three occasions I awoke in the middle of the night, troubled by vivid dreams and awoke at 5am groggy. For the previous few months, I would sleep deep without interruption and awaken alert at 5am. I go to the gym in the early morning, 530am hence the early wakeup.
07-13-2016, 10:35 AM
How much b12, zinc, magnesium and b6 are you taking?
Your doctor sounds pretty capable, how did he isolate a lived problem, from blood results?
Did you feel any difference in terms of libido of energy during your experiment?
07-13-2016, 10:52 AM
25mg zinc, 500mg magnesium, 1000mcg b12(acetylcholine version). Do not recall B6 as it is a B bundle without the b12.
I guess he surmised based on that and my history as I was super energetic prior to feeling poorly. I had intense stomach pain some days as well for for weeks prior to seeing the Dr.
Tired in the morning until consuming coffee. Fine the rest of the day. But no desire to go the gym in the early a.m.
No libido initial two days. Yes this morning.
07-13-2016, 04:12 PM
Could it be to do with some difficulty absorbing B12 or another mineral, does your doctor have any ideas.
How long will you keep the excitement going?
07-13-2016, 04:15 PM
I do not know what you mean about excitement. You mean good health? We never discuss that. I think so long as health holds unrelated to physical exericse- you know no cancer or other type of maladies then I could be another Jack Lalane
back to B12 tonight. Expect to sleep deep without interruption. Well advise tomorrow.
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