How to add Pp products to you Anti-Aging Medicines.

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Yeah, now stop telling how great it is. I am jealous of those that can blast and cruise. Maybe someday.
    bwahahaha! yeah I know....its super easy to just be running TRT levels of test, along with whatever else you need (AI, DHT, etc) all year round (or almost all year round)....and not have to worry about PCT or test boosters or clomid and all that crapola, you just run cycles around a test base protocol you are already running....but then again, its preferable in my eyes to be younger/have normal test levels. I guess both options have their perks and disadvantages....


  2. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    bwahahaha! yeah I know....its super easy to just be running TRT levels of test, along with whatever else you need (AI, DHT, etc) all year round (or almost all year round)....and not have to worry about PCT or test boosters or clomid and all that crapola, you just run cycles around a test base protocol you are already running....but then again, its preferable in my eyes to be younger/have normal test levels. I guess both options have their perks and disadvantages....
    I just read through and I agree with hts bro. The DAA would logically make sense to add but an exogenous source is going to shut you down whether its 4mg a day or 500... Your body doesn't do dose dependent regulation.

    Personally, I'd throw that money in a different hat because you're really not going to get your moneys worth. Also, like HTS said STFU about blasting and cruising dick face ; )
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I just read through and I agree with hts bro. The DAA would logically make sense to add but an exogenous source is going to shut you down whether its 4mg a day or 500... Your body doesn't do dose dependent regulation.

    Personally, I'd throw that money in a different hat because you're really not going to get your moneys worth. Also, like HTS said STFU about blasting and cruising dick face ; )
    lol....at least I'm not one of those lucky bastards getting 200mg cyp per week, we ALL really hate those guys! ......but yeah, I sold all my test boosters, and bought/traded for dermacrine or AH or AI's. Just have some leftover AI DAA. but that is so cheap its not really worth messing with in trade or sale since its opened.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    lol....at least I'm not one of those lucky bastards getting 200mg cyp per week, we ALL really hate those guys! ......but yeah, I sold all my test boosters, and bought/traded for dermacrine or AH or AI's. Just have some leftover AI DAA. but that is so cheap its not really worth messing with in trade or sale since its opened.
    I told myself that even if I dont BB anymore, at some age I will go on TRT, even if I have to goto a clinic. I refuse to deal with declining levels.
    Just inject.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    I told myself that even if I dont BB anymore, at some age I will go on TRT, even if I have to goto a clinic. I refuse to deal with declining levels.
    Yup! I'm 26 and I literally call offices to screen them already and because different methods interest me.
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  6. yeah I was pretty mortified that my test level was so low even after a clomid PCT and test boosters/AI's galore during 7/11 and osta (should have kept my levels pretty constant since that stuff is relatively non-suppressive)....I just can't be havin' that . At my age its not so bad though, much worse for the guys in their teens to early 30's.....kinda sucks to be on TRT at those ages. but you gotta do what you gotta do....

  7. I'm one of guys cruising on 200 a week and it's great! Only downside is having to go in weekly for shot. Still on look out for doc that will let me self inject. I'm in mid thirties so I will be on TRT for a long time to come but no regrets from me or my wife.

    I'm interested in trying PP products but the price to run hard for 8 weeks adds up fast. I remember u guys having killer sale last year but I didn't pull trigger in time.

    Anybody have any more feedback on results from adding PP products to their TRT?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by steak taco View Post
    I'm one of guys cruising on 200 a week and it's great! Only downside is having to go in weekly for shot. Still on look out for doc that will let me self inject. I'm in mid thirties so I will be on TRT for a long time to come but no regrets from me or my wife.

    I'm interested in trying PP products but the price to run hard for 8 weeks adds up fast. I remember u guys having killer sale last year but I didn't pull trigger in time.

    Anybody have any more feedback on results from adding PP products to their TRT?

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  9. Thx Matt I'll keep that in mind

  10. Quote Originally Posted by steak taco
    I'm one of guys cruising on 200 a week and it's great! Only downside is having to go in weekly for shot. Still on look out for doc that will let me self inject. I'm in mid thirties so I will be on TRT for a long time to come but no regrets from me or my wife.

    I'm interested in trying PP products but the price to run hard for 8 weeks adds up fast. I remember u guys having killer sale last year but I didn't pull trigger in time.

    Anybody have any more feedback on results from adding PP products to their TRT?
    Since you already have a prescription (the hard part) research local compounding pharmacies around you. There is a cream, not gel that's out that is a daily application and keeps one of my captains at 1200 instead of the rise and fall with injections.
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  11. Daily cream is a pita compared to a good inject schedule. No reason anyone should be rising and falling into noticeable levels with injections.

  12. I think I'm going to pick up s couple bottles of erase, or maybe erase pro next payday. I'm on 150/week of cyp and .5 iu's/day of HgH.

    Estrodiol was high normal last set of labs, didn't get cortisol done but will my next set of labs.

  13. If you were on a weekly dose of 100mg test cyp how would adding Andromass or FL's Alpha Mass work for you? This is something I'm really interesting in trying.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    I think I'm going to pick up s couple bottles of erase, or maybe erase pro next payday. I'm on 150/week of cyp and .5 iu's/day of HgH.

    Estrodiol was high normal last set of labs, didn't get cortisol done but will my next set of labs.
    yeah for real, I've been picking up bottles of erase pro here and there for over a month now...got about 4 full bottles....also picked up 3 forma stanzol and am looking to grab some 6-bromo since its so damn cheap. I was planning ahead since I KNOW I am an estrogenic bitch.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    If you were on a weekly dose of 100mg test cyp how would adding Andromass or FL's Alpha Mass work for you? This is something I'm really interesting in trying.
    my plan is to add in low dose AHv3 with the TRT as an everyday thing....then cycle the AM or AB or AL throughout the year....with SD kickers (since we all have tons of it now lol). and of course cycle in other things like AAS such as deca or PH/DS like epi etc doesn't have to be just PP... This is how I intend to work them into my plans, just an idea of course....

  16. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    my plan is to add in low dose AHv3 with the TRT as an everyday thing....then cycle the AM or AB or AL throughout the year....with SD kickers (since we all have tons of it now lol). and of course cycle in other things like AAS such as deca or PH/DS like epi etc doesn't have to be just PP... This is how I intend to work them into my plans, just an idea of course....
    I'd like to add on some methylated prohormones, but they scare me a tad...
    I had liver cancer as a child and don't want to do anything to harsh. The doc had always said I have no restrictions regarding drinking, medications, etc...but I'm not sure how that compares to h-drol, epi, or SD. I'm actually on TRT from having naturally low T levels due, more than likely, from high doses of chemo.

    That's why I'm inclined to do a non-methyl like a 1-dhea product first. I just don't know I'd the weekly test dose I'm on would counteract the effectiveness of the product.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    I'd like to add on some methylated prohormones, but they scare me a tad...
    I had liver cancer as a child and don't want to do anything to harsh. The doc had always said I have no restrictions regarding drinking, medications, etc...but I'm not sure how that compares to h-drol, epi, or SD. I'm actually on TRT from having naturally low T levels due, more than likely, from high doses of chemo.

    That's why I'm inclined to do a non-methyl like a 1-dhea product first. I just don't know I'd the weekly test dose I'm on would counteract the effectiveness of the product.
    I would say the 7/11 (AL) and/or the DHT (AH) would work best with TRT (test). Since the AM (V2 and V3) is used as more of a test base, it seems kind of redundant to use with TRT....but If I was running deca? with the TRT? I'd def run some andromass in addition to the TRT to help counteract any sides the 3-400mg of deca per week might bring on. Although..... ABv3 and AMv3 have 19-nor and DHT respectively, in addition to the 4Dhea, so they should stack reasonably well with TRT....The only one I'd say might be a bad idea is either AMv2 (for sure), or to a lesser extent AMv3...might as well just use the AHv3 instead of the AMv3 you know? and the AL works great alongside TRT if you are looking to burn fat or recomp.....

  18. Quote Originally Posted by steak taco View Post
    I'm one of guys cruising on 200 a week and it's great! Only downside is having to go in weekly for shot. Still on look out for doc that will let me self inject. I'm in mid thirties so I will be on TRT for a long time to come but no regrets from me or my wife.

    I'm interested in trying PP products but the price to run hard for 8 weeks adds up fast. I remember u guys having killer sale last year but I didn't pull trigger in time.

    Anybody have any more feedback on results from adding PP products to their TRT?
    Hey ST ..... I'm on TRT ... have been on TRT for alittle over a year. I have a log on AH/AL/AE you can check out here ....
    Starting Log with AndroHard/AndroLean with AndroEnhance .....
    I have had tremendous results from PP products .... if you have the time check the log ... there are also lots of pics that show my progress. If you have any other questions ... feel free to pm me .
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  19. Damn bro. Um, anyone still on the fence about TRT? LOL

  20. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj
    Damn bro. Um, anyone still on the fence about TRT? LOL
    What are you on the fence about? Do you have low t? Qualify? What's your age?
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  21. I was joking, I've been on TRT for the last year and it completely changed my life.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj
    I was joking, I've been on TRT for the last year and it completely changed my life.
    Oh lol... A hole
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by lboston
    If you were on a weekly dose of 100mg test cyp how would adding Andromass or FL's Alpha Mass work for you? This is something I'm really interesting in trying.
    Bump for a PP rep answer?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bluerocket

    Hey ST ..... I'm on TRT ... have been on TRT for alittle over a year. I have a log on AH/AL/AE you can check out here ....

    I have had tremendous results from PP products .... if you have the time check the log ... there are also lots of pics that show my progress. If you have any other questions ... feel free to pm me .
    Thx for info. Very impressive and lots of hard work on your end for sure!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Bump for a PP rep answer?
    The same way as the non-TRT user, in fact you would probably have a better experience.

    Look at it this way, even with limited suppression the average user will have AndroMass + natural test, and that natural test over time will suppress slightly.

    With a TRT person, you don't have that issue, because your levels are stabilized by your TRT.
    Just inject.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Bump for a PP rep answer?
    you will get the benefits of higher levels of 4androstendiol which aid in anti inflammation, increased sex drive, heightened sense of well-being, glycogen synthase upregulator etc...

    -matt

  27. Awesome thread, I am exploring HRT now. Posted on PP's forum and the only answer I got was that I would not need the Andro series on HRT. Which made no sense to me. The information in this thread does make sense. So I have a question if someone knows the answer I would appreciate it. How long after ending a cycle can I go in for HRT blood work evaluation, and can I do so while on PCT? I am currently 5 weeks into an AndroLean + AndroHard Cycle, did 2 AndroMass + AndroBulk + PCT's prior (Love Primordial's product's BTW). I am 47 and considering ending this cycle early to get on HRT asap.
    Thanks in advance,

  28. Just a heads up for anyone on HRT/TRT. I would NOT get hormone levels tested during a cycle of adding anything to your hormone therapy. Reason being that I have seen insurances cancel coverage after having levels of +1500 ng/dl. Your endo or clinic may also lower the prescription to accommodate for the higher levels. Just a heads up : )
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  29. Not to play doctor, but I hope that those of you just throwing around the idea of going on TRT are doing it for the right reasons. There are too many doctors that don't know what they are doing and will simply see a low test number and prescribe. There are so many factors involved when determining the reason for low test, that it takes time, investigation, and a knowledgeable specialist.

    Just throwing it out there, but you can really F with your life if you are just playing around with TRT.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by sabre2 View Post
    Awesome thread, I am exploring HRT now. Posted on PP's forum and the only answer I got was that I would not need the Andro series on HRT. Which made no sense to me. The information in this thread does make sense. So I have a question if someone knows the answer I would appreciate it. How long after ending a cycle can I go in for HRT blood work evaluation, and can I do so while on PCT? I am currently 5 weeks into an AndroLean + AndroHard Cycle, did 2 AndroMass + AndroBulk + PCT's prior (Love Primordial's product's BTW). I am 47 and considering ending this cycle early to get on HRT asap.
    Thanks in advance,
    Not sure who told you that, they might have misinterpreted the question. Wait after using the TRS. Unless you are looking to show a low T count, but Andro isn't terribly suppressive.
    Just inject.
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