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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    I think you do a lot of research and truly are passionate about what you know. But I know I would probably stop seeing my doctor if I knew he was taking medical advice from a guy with a high school diploma. When it comes to my health, I research everything I can and consult my doctor who has 10 years plus of education in the medical profession. I don't want to see a doctor who relies on common sense when it comes to my health. I have an advanced degree and went to law school. The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know. I read your posts with interest but would never regard it the same way I would advice from a licensed medical practitioner. You have to realize that as incompetent as some doctors may appear, you are in no position to challenge their competency armed with a high school diploma and self taught medicine. Perhaps if you toned down the perception that you consider yourself on par with doctors, and possibly their peers, your advice would be better received. You have a lot to contribute; no need to knock doctors not on your buddy list to bolster your status.
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    A license from the state doesn't make a person a good doctor. A high dollar degree doesn't either. All that proves is they met the minimum standards and very high costs to be a doctor. Licensing and permits are almost always created by those with money to maintain control of their means of income. If a person is a better "doctor" without a license from the state and without an expensive degree they become a threat to medical schools and doctors who want to limit others from healing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    A license from the state doesn't make a person a good doctor. A high dollar degree doesn't either. All that proves is they met the minimum standards and very high costs to be a doctor. Licensing and permits are almost always created by those with money to maintain control of their means of income. If a person is a better "doctor" without a license from the state and without an expensive degree they become a threat to medical schools and doctors who want to limit others from healing people.
    Do you actually believe what you just said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    A license from the state doesn't make a person a good doctor. A high dollar degree doesn't either. All that proves is they met the minimum standards and very high costs to be a doctor. Licensing and permits are almost always created by those with money to maintain control of their means of income. If a person is a better "doctor" without a license from the state and without an expensive degree they become a threat to medical schools and doctors who want to limit others from healing people.
    This sounds like you are unbelievably misguided, or that you flunked out of med school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    A license from the state doesn't make a person a good doctor. A high dollar degree doesn't either. All that proves is they met the minimum standards and very high costs to be a doctor. Licensing and permits are almost always created by those with money to maintain control of their means of income. If a person is a better "doctor" without a license from the state and without an expensive degree they become a threat to medical schools and doctors who want to limit others from healing people.
    A threat? That's nuts. First off, one has to be pretty smart and possess good work ethic to get into medical school. Then, medical schools have an attrition rate if about 10 to 20 percent to get those out who probably won't have the ethic or intelligence to be a good doctor. Then comes licensing and the boards. This keeps the kooks out that would likely be a danger to society. Is it 100%, nope. Nothing is, but it is as good a system as one could have. If you think one can learn to be a doctor, much less a good doctor, merely on thier own absent all of the back ground course work including very rigorous science courses and then spending several years as an intern and then as a resident doing OJT, your delusional.

    Medicine is perhaps the one area one cannot fake and get away with it. One can learn basics, but knowing the mere basics can be more dangerous than knowing nothing at all. AMA is not afraid of anything you suggest. The AMA is concerned about protecting the public from delusional idiots who think they know something, but in reality only serve as a danger to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    A threat? That's nuts. First off, one has to be pretty smart and possess good work ethic to get into medical school. Then, medical schools have an attrition rate if about 10 to 20 percent to get those out who probably won't have the ethic or intelligence to be a good doctor. Then comes licensing and the boards. This keeps the kooks out that would likely be a danger to society. Is it 100%, nope. Nothing is, but it is as good a system as one could have. If you think one can learn to be a doctor, much less a good doctor, merely on thier own absent all of the back ground course work including very rigorous science courses and then spending several years as an intern and then as a resident doing OJT, your delusional.

    Medicine is perhaps the one area one cannot fake and get away with it. One can learn basics, but knowing the mere basics can be more dangerous than knowing nothing at all. AMA is not afraid of anything you suggest. The AMA is concerned about protecting the public from delusional idiots who think they know something, but in reality only serve as a danger to the public.

    Sorry but anything that has a license from the government has laws made by those have the most to gain from it. Plenty of people fake medicine and get away with it. The goal with licensing initially is to prevent that, but licensing drives up costs and that creates an industry around those costs and they cannot afford to lose their paycheck so they lobby and work hard to keep those costs high and limit those that get in to keep it even higher. The high costs keep doctors from innovating and learning as much as they could because they ahve to work a lot to keep up with their costs and keep up their paychecks. Real medical innovations are NOT found in a doctor's office, they are found in labs by doctors, nurses, research assistants, analysts and so on that never spend that much time in practice. You won't find many doctors that can afford to spend much time away from practice when they have licensing fees, insurance and more to deal wioth.... will do more later..
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4lu3s View Post
    Sorry but anything that has a license from the government has laws made by those have the most to gain from it. Plenty of people fake medicine and get away with it. The goal with licensing initially is to prevent that, but licensing drives up costs and that creates an industry around those costs and they cannot afford to lose their paycheck so they lobby and work hard to keep those costs high and limit those that get in to keep it even higher. The high costs keep doctors from innovating and learning as much as they could because they ahve to work a lot to keep up with their costs and keep up their paychecks. Real medical innovations are NOT found in a doctor's office, they are found in labs by doctors, nurses, research assistants, analysts and so on that never spend that much time in practice. You won't find many doctors that can afford to spend much time away from practice when they have licensing fees, insurance and more to deal wioth.... will do more later..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    "Hey George, Grab that band saw and fix this busted knee for me will ya? I got a 12 pack with your name on it if ya do!"
    Haha, or the hillbilly that tied his tooth to a board with a string and hit the board with a hammer. That practicing medicine.

    The specialist I know have plenty if time to stay on top of their fields. I work with perhaps 20 neurosurgeons, 40 orthopods, a litany of thoracic surgeons and anesthesiologists and they all have great lives and plenty of time to stay up to date on latest, greatest hardware and techniques. Cardio thoracic surgeons are also amazingly progressive when it comes to da Vinci and robotic arm and arthroscopic procedures. Oncologists I know are simply amazing and cutting edge at a few of the better clinics.

    These dudes are talking about GPs who are not specialized and only get like $ 30 or $40 bucks a patient due to insurance cutting rates and worse for Medicare and Medicaid. I know a lot of GPs going to non conventional route and seeing insurance patients only one or two days a week so they can make a living.

    The other area people complain about are endos, but American endos are just conservative and more focused on American disease processes such as diabetes, osteo and etc. Fixing male hormones screwed up by steroid abuse is not really main stream medicine.
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