How much testosterone cypionate can you safely inject weekly?
11-10-2012 04:56 AM
It's been quite some time now since I was asking u folks the question in my original post. Again - thanks for all the replies. I just came to update my situation in regards to this. To recap - I had a blood test done where it showed my testosterone level of around 180 when the normal range was around 400 to 1100. Thats how the whole thing started.
It didn't surprise me that my level was so low because I felt so vital and alive in this way as a young man....& that feeling had disappeared long ago. I'm 59 now by the way & not a bodybuilder.
I have offered much more specific info in previous posts to my OP if anybody is interested in it.
I would assume most people don't want to read all that stuff & I don't blame them (although it would be really cool if somebody who is very knowledgeable about this stuff did read some of the previous info I supplied). I will try to include some of the basic info I supplied in my previous posts from around 8 months ago.
After I did go up in my dose quite a bit for a while.....I can't remember exactly how high I got up to....but around 450 mgs. a week I think of the injectable testosterone cypionate. My doc had started me on either 100mgs. or 150 mgs. once every two weeks.
When I was 28 I was in a brutal car accidnt as a passenger that shattered my femurs and made my lifestyle more sedentary....especially the last 10 years after I developed venous insufficiency in my lower legs & feet pretty bad (which I'm sure had to do with residual effects from the accident that just took some time to appear).
This also resulted in my having two bouts of extreme cellulitis where I had to be hospitalized for about 10 days each time to get I.V.'s of the most powerful antibiotics they have. And each time I had these I got a very bad ulcer wound that went almost all the way to the bone....once in the calf & once in my foot.
And after being out of the hospital each time I had to go to a wound clinic about every 10 days to have special bandages changed & replaced for about 4 or 5 months until the ulcers healed to the point they could. Knock on wood....I haven't developed another case of cellulits since & it's been about 7 years now since the last.
Also, when the venous insuffiency started up around 10 years ago.....I have been wearing medical prescription strong compression socks that come up to the knee & those really help the venous insuffiency. If I have them off too long....my feet and lower legs start to swell. By the way....the venous insuffiency was explained to me that the heart pumps the blood through the arteries & the veins bring it back....and now the valves in my lower legs & feet are broken & don't close when returning the blood as they should....which causes the swelling. And my lower legs & especially my feet look damaged.
Wow - sorry this is getting so long...but I figured if anybody reads this whole thing....the more I say about my health....the better replies I might get. So after doing the doc's suggestion for a couple of months & feeling absolutely no different....thats when I gradually got up to taking the amount I mentioed above.
I finally did go to an "Anylab" after I had been on the much higher dose for a while....& the results came back that now my testosterone level on that scale of around 400 to 1100 was at least 1500 (that was as high as the test would show a result for). So I did fess up to my doc that I had upped things quite a bit & he just told me to take 200 mgs. every 2 weeks....which I have now been doing for a few months. Just recently had labs drawn & now my testosterone level was 720.....basically in the middle of the normal range.
The STRANGE thing to me is that I have felt no difference from when I was at 180, over 1500, & now 720. And as one poster told me....u only can tell if it's working if you can "FEEL IT"....& I never have.
Also....over the last 6 months I have changed a couple of things big time. The venous insuffiency & cellulitis & I also have back issues from that accident.....had gradually changed me over the last 10 years from my lifetime average weight until then of 175 to 265. I drastically changed my diet (no sweets, lots of fruit & vegetables, nuts, fish, etc.) & since I have trouble with any weight bearing exercise.....I started swimming 6 days a week from 1 to 1 & 3/4 hours per day. At this point I've now gotten back to 200.....and working on getting back to around 180.
OH - one thing I don't know if I have mentioned b4 is that I got HEP C from the blood transfusions I had after the car accident in 1978. I'm a carrier of it....but I have not gotten sick from it. Although my liver & kidney tests are now for the 1st time out of the normal range I found out from the recent physical I had where I found my testosterone level back to 720.
Those tests came back as follows.
AST (SGOT) 49 & the reference range (RR) was 0-40 IU/L
ALT (SGPT) 72 & the RR was 0-55 IU/L
Creatinine Serum was O.70 & the RR was 0.76 to 1.27 mg./dL
BUN/Creatinine was 26 & the RR was 9-20
All the other blood & urine tests they do in a physical.....I was inside the RR.
My doc thinks these levels are due to the HEP C & I don't think he thinks they are real bad or anything like that yet....& I hope they don't gradually go that way. And by the way....my doc tells me there is now a treatment for HEP C which has had dramatic results. It is a combination of a drug u inject called Peginterferon combined with a drug u take called Ribavirin.
Many of the folks who have done this end up having no detectable HEP C in their bodies at all......which I guess means it can actually cure some people from the HEP C. The drawback - I researched it a bit & it looks like it costs around $20,000 or a bit more & I don't have health insurance or 20G laying around. Also, I think u can get some pretty bad side effects from this regime (I think u have to do in weekly or even shorter intervals for around a year or something like that).
OK - I know I gotta wrap this up. One thing I know. I don't feel different by injecting either a little or a lot of TC. I never grew man boobs or anything like that. I have noticed a few things that people have mentioned here that I'm curious to know what they are. And I thought I'd ask here b4 maybe researching some of this stuff on the net.
What are enanthe, E-2, and SHGB? Is it possible any of this stuff could help me? Since TC didn't bring back any of that "Vitality" I had when I was a younger man....is there anything else out there that anybody would recommend I try. I so miss that feeling of Vitality (sexuality) that I once had a lot of....& now don't have any of.
Should I still keep taking the TC so it stays in the normal range - even though I feel no effect whatsoever from it?
OK - Much thanks to anybody that may have read this really long post. And if anybody did read this thing.....any comments, suggestions, answers, etc., would be greatly appreciated. THANKS
01-21-2013 12:08 PM
I am new to this site and a new patient to Hormone Replacement therapy. I'm 48 yrs old, 6' 1", 241 lbs. I'm in pretty good shape. I work out pretty much 5 times per week. Very active but my enegry level has gone down tremendously. A friend suggested I go see a Dr for this. A friend referred me to go she this Dr who will look at your blood work and see where I'm deficient. I went to the Dr and he did pretty extensive blood work. To make a long story short, he put me on Test Depo - 1 injection per week (Monday's, .65 cc/week, $90 for 3 months), HGH - 1 injection everyday (.20 ml daily, $2400 for 3 months), HCG - 1 injection per week (on Thursday's, 70 mgs/week, not sure the cost), Anastrazole - .5 mg twice per week, and a slew of supplements (Vit D3, Vit D, Vit K2, Omega 3, CoQ 10, melatonin, ecotrin, and about 7 other supplements. The entire regiment is costing me about $4000 every 3 months (they injections, $700 for blood work test, and supplements). I want to see first of all if this cost is normal and secondly does this seem to be the norm for what Anti-aging Dr's prescribe. I know obviously everyone's body is different so the numbers may be a little different but is the regiment similar?
01-22-2013 08:37 AM
No that is not normal in any sense of the word and nothing but a money making scam. It's becoming clear to most people that there is a lot of money to make in anti-aging clinics and they are taking people to the poor house by preying on their desire to feel better.
I pay $5 (test prescription cost) every 3 months to feel better.
01-22-2013 09:26 AM
Sounds like I need to look around the area for another Dr. It seemed pretty expensive but wasn't sure.
Originally Posted by kisaj
01-22-2013 09:38 AM
The first sign should be the fact that they are throwing everything possible at you and this would do nothing but add an enormous amount of variables if everything didn't magically work out. Just like any troubleshooting situation, it's always better to start with the least number of parts, supplements, additives, etc and add or take away as needed.
01-25-2013 05:30 PM
Is there a post on this forum for local recommendations to seek more advice?
01-27-2013 09:04 PM
I have been injecting testosterone cypionate for 2 years. This practice has been managed under the care of a urologist who arranges for periodic blood testing. My hormone system is stable and well regulated. I inject 200 mgs once each week. I am 68 years old and the results are wonderful. Of course, I am very horney and very very hairy all over. But I was quite hairy to begin with. Be sure to supplement with DHEA and also take a nettle root extract to block the Sex Binding Globulin. I work out twice a week with resistence training for 90 minutes.
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