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ESTROGEN AND FLUID RETENTION IS IT COMMON ?

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    what brand do you recommend then?



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    Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    what brand do you recommend then?
    Depends on the case and organisms I am trying to balances, as well as pre existing condition plays a huge part in the selelction
    For average person <20-30 billion per day 8-16 strains should be fine.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    wow my UDO'S brand has 6 strains. I guess I should find a different brand. which brand is good for candida?

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    50,000 mcgs = 50 mgs

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    Thanks, so kelp and iodine are the same thing in supplement form, and either is ok to use at that dose?
    bump ?

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    Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    I like UDO'S Choice
    as in a efa source or a probiotic?

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    Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    50,000 mcgs = 50 mgs



    bump ?
    What at what dosage be specific?
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    kelp and iodine are both the same thing in supplement form ?
    and they are both safe at a maximum amount of 12.5mgs daily for long term use?

    Thnks

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    Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    kelp and iodine are both the same thing in supplement form ?
    and they are both safe at a maximum amount of 12.5mgs daily for long term use?

    Thnks
    12.5 mgs kelp you are risking heavy metal toxicty amount other things.
    Again long term studies are not published, but japanese people have been consuming it for centuries with no issues with lowest rate of cancers. I always suggest people when on 12.5 mgs for 3-4 months check their TSH and thyroid to be safe..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    kelp and iodine are both the same thing in supplement form ?
    no, kelp is natural, and as the matrix has said may have issues with contamination. on the other hand straight iodine through something like iodoral
    http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/opt_Iodoral.htm

    wouldn't have the same issue.
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    up to 1000mcg of either pure iodine or sea kelp daily or more, is ok ?

    just looking for a maximum amount thats safe for daily use with pure iodine and amount for sea kelp?

    Cheers.

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    Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    up to 1000mcg of either pure iodine or sea kelp daily or more, is ok ?

    just looking for a maximum amount thats safe for daily use with pure iodine and amount for sea kelp?

    Cheers.
    Iodoral is sold as 12.5mg total (5 mg iodine / 7.5 mg iodide) and to all intents seems safe long term at that dose.

    With kelp, the impurities + contaminations are what makes a difference to what is a safe dose, and so its really hard to pin a number down.
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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    why guess? If you think your levels are off, get tested. Puffiness + water retention have other causes as well too, and plenty of people think they are leaner than they are so maybe it wasn't retained water.
    I have bloodwork that shows my levels of estradiol are lower than mid range and yet a lack of diet discipline will produce the love handles that I normally retain when I relax my diet. No weight gain but I will retain more fluid in my love handles. So I have proof that for me it is not estrogen related which confirms I need greater water intake and less sodium and fewer carbs than I prefer to consume when less disciplined.
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    I've never been without love handles so I wouldn't know
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    Oh they exist on me as well. Just to a much lesser degree at times. Endomorphism...
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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Iodoral is sold as 12.5mg total (5 mg iodine / 7.5 mg iodide) and to all intents seems safe long term at that dose.

    With kelp, the impurities + contaminations are what makes a difference to what is a safe dose, and so its really hard to pin a number down.
    Thanks mate, cant get that iodoral product over here, so i may have to look at a substitute so 12.5mcg 5-7mg is safe in a pure iodine form long term ?

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    Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    I have bloodwork that shows my levels of estradiol are lower than mid range and yet a lack of diet discipline will produce the love handles that I normally retain when I relax my diet. No weight gain but I will retain more fluid in my love handles. So I have proof that for me it is not estrogen related which confirms I need greater water intake and less sodium and fewer carbs than I prefer to consume when less disciplined.
    Yes fluid retention can be caused by many dietary factors and not just the hormonal factors such as to much estrogen and excess of cortisol

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    Fluid.retention is caused by inflammation which raises shbg
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

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    Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Fluid.retention is caused by inflammation which raises shbg
    Can you eleborate furthur, inflammation of ?
    Does low t and high shbg cause fluid retention?

    i know that estogen and cortisol can cause fluid retention

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