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    20 years old, ED, Depression, Fatigue, Prostate pain, screwed life, low DHEA, high E2


    TAKEN THE 24 OF JUNE OF 2011

    TRANSFERRIN 235 mg/dl Reference range 200-400

    FERRITIN 80 ng/dl Reference range 20 - 300

    LH SERUM 4.86 UI/I Reference range 2-12

    FSH SERUM 3.51 UI/I Reference range 1-8

    TOTAL TESTOSTERONE SERUM 9 ng/ml Reference range 2-11

    FREE TESTOSTERONE 3.50 pg/ml Reference range 9 - 47


    TAKEN THE 20 OF OCTOBER

    TSH 0.68 mcUI/ml Reference range: 0.47-4.64

    LH SERUM 4.07 UI/I Reference range: 2-12

    FSH SERUM 2.96 UI/I

    PROLACTIN SERUM 31.30 ng/ml Reference range: 3 - 25

    FREE TESTOSTERONE 30.40 pg/ml Reference range 9-47

    PROGESTERONE SERUM 0.53 ng/ml Reference range 0.2-3.37

    DHEA-S SERUM 131 mcg/dl Reference range 80-560

    Estradiol 17-Beta (sensitive) 44 pg/ml Reference ranges <62


    TAKEN THE 22 OF NOVEMBER.

    INSULIN SERUM- <2.00 hUi/ml (the "h" is reversed but I cant type it )

    (6-27 hUi/ml )

    TOTAL CHOLESTEROL- 143,30 md/dl (140-220)

    FSH SERUM- 3.93 mUI/mL (1.40-13.6)

    PROLACTIN SERUM- 5.13 ng/ml (2.60-18.1)

    LH SERUM 5.45 mUI/ml (1.80-8.20)

    DHEA-S SERUM- 2.98 hg/mL (reverse h again) (2.38-5.39)

    ANDROSTEDIONE SERUM- 3.50 ng/mL (0.5-3)

    T4 TOTAL SERUM-8.01 hg/dL (4.5-12.5)

    FREE T4 SERUM- 1.40 ng/dL (0.80-dL)

    TOTAL T3 SERUM- 1.42 ng/mL (0.70-1.70 ng/mL)

    FREE T3 SERUM- 3.91 pg/mL (1.8-4.2)

    DHT SERUM- 0.56 ng/mL (0.25-1 ng/mL)

    PROGESTERONE- 0.19 ng/mL (0.28-1.22 ng/mL)

    TOTAL TESTOSTERONE- 6.28 ng/mL (1.56-8.77ng/mL)

    FREE TESTOSTERONE- 12 pg/mL (8.9-42.5 pg/mL)

    SHBG- 36nmol/L (10-57)

    ESTRADIOL SENSITIVE- 53 pg/mL (11-44 pg/mL)

    CORTISOL AM SERUM (taken at 10 AM)- 12.3 hg/dL (5-25


    THESE OTHER TESTS WERE TAKEN THE 13 OF DECEMBER

    (The "h" is inverted in all the ranges)


    FRACTURED CATHECHOLAMINES URINE 24H

    ADRENALINE:

    2 hg/L

    4hg/24 h

    Range: 0,5 - 20 hg/24 h

    NORADRENALINE:

    16 hg/L

    35 hg/24 h

    Range: 15 - 80 hg/24 h

    DOPAMINE:

    70 hg/L

    154 hg/24 h

    Range: 65 - 400 hg/24 h


    CORTISOL SALIVA (yesss YESSSSSS hahaha)

    8:45 AM 3.41 nmol/L Reference range 8h-9h: 5.3-61.8 nmol/L


    1:10 PM 4.94 nmol/L


    6:20 PM 3.40 nmol/L Reference range 18h-20h: 1.2 - 12.3 nmol/L


    0:30 AM 1.72 nmol/L

    PLASMA HISTAMINE 4.16 nmol/L Reference range <9

    CREATININE

    57 mg/dL Reference: 80 - 150 mg/dL
    1254 mg/24 hours Reference: 800 - 2000


    GABA

    <5 hmol/g Creat Reference: <120 hmol/g Creat
    <0.51 mg/g Creat Reference: <12 mg/g Creat

    PLASMA AMINOACIDS

    ASPARTIC ACID 3.46 mg/L Reference range: 1.5 - 4.5

    GLUTAMIC ACID 6.33 mg/L Reference range: 7.0 - 19.5

    ALANINE 21 mg/L Reference range: 10.5 - 46.5

    ARGININE 9 mg/L Reference range: 8.7 - 33

    ASPARRAGINE 5 mg/L Reference range: 3 - 27

    CISTINE 1.6 mg/L Reference range: 1.7 - 21

    CITRULINE 3.15 mg/L Reference range: 2.8 - 13.1

    FENILANANINE 8.09 mg/L Reference range: 5.08 - 15

    GLYCINE 10.96 mg/L Reference range: 3.5 - 29

    GLUTAMINE 58 mg/L Reference range: 49 - 145

    HIDROXILISINE-1 <0.81 mg/L Reference range: <6

    HIDROXIPROLINE <0.66 MG/L Reference range: <4.5

    HISTIDINE 19 mg/L Reference range: 7 - 16.5

    ISOLEUCINE 7 mg/L Reference range: 3 - 11

    LEUCINE 13.51 mg/L Reference range: 6 - 23

    LISINE 10.53 mg/L Reference range: 8 - 30

    METHIONINE 2.24 mg/L Reference range: 1 - 8

    3-METHILHISTIDINE <0.85 mg/L Reference range <1.7

    ORNITINE 2.27 mg/L Reference range: < 13.5

    PROLINE 11.63 mg/L Reference range: 5 - 34.5

    SERINE 9.46 mg/L Reference range: 4.5 - 23

    TAURINE 7 mg/L Reference range: 10-27

    TYROSINE 7.07 mg/L Reference range: 1.5 - 16.5

    TREONINE 9.65 mg/L Reference range: 3.5 - 28

    TRIPTOPHAN 8.77 mg/L Reference range: 7 - 23.5

    VALINE 24.85 mg/L Reference range: 11.5 - 35.1

    SEROTONIN SERUM 146 mg/L Reference range: 40 - 400

    TAKEN IN 2012

    Prolactin 21,49 ng/ml 3 - 25

    Testosterone total 7,47 ng/ml 1,95 - 11,38

    Free testosterone 13,80 pg/ml 9 - 47

    SYMPTOMS:

    -Since 3 years never achieving a good erection except rare cases while watching porn (still not completely inflated) No erection of more than 50% without porn (havent tested for a lonnnnnng time with girls though)No morning wood or pathetic ones.This is : severe ED (and lack of libido).

    -Permanent brainfog and memory problems: people just say I am " a disaster" but I know this isnt normal. I have read the same books even 4 times, because with this problem most of the details vanish. I cant drive cars because of this and in general I avoid responsabilities... This evolves to a headache several days per week.

    -Weakness and fatigue: cant deal with healthy males of my height or workout. Even weights of 5 kg are too much for me lol I mean I can workout with those but still too difficult to make progress.

    -Strong depression and all things related to depression (anhedonia,social phobia etc etc) Mood swings, but depression is the frequent state.

    -Dont feel really rested with sleep: mainly, I think this is a adrenal related symptom. Insomnia in general.

    -Prostate/penile pain sometimes, especially if masturbating more than 2 times per day.

    -Prostate/testicular inflammation when getting aroused for some minutes and not ejaculating, the more the time the worse the feeling.

    -Hard flaccid sometimes, the penis is like compressed, cold and hurts...

    -I am smaller than my little brothers (I am not short but they are taller) Maybe a coindence, not related with SE.

    -Oh, and without the need of explaining it deeper, I am getting crazy. Mental disorders...

    Any idea of what can be going on?

    Liver methylation? Hypothalamus? GI tract? Intoxication by Aluminum?

    What testing I need for "digging deeper"?

    WHY MY FREE TEST IS ALWAYS LOW??

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    Free testosterone is one of the worst indicators since it only makes up 2%.
    TWO words intestinal malabsorption along with altered intestinal permeability which are hampering your neurotransmitters along with immune system which is causing adrenal stress from the increased inflammatory response (high histamines)

    high Histamine is not a cause factor, but its a symptom of an inflammatory response.
    Your trying to stop water from spraying out a hose by putting it into a bucket, instead you need simple need to turn off the spicket.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Your trying to stop water from spraying out a hose by putting it into a bucket, instead you need simple need to turn off the spicket.
    So, supplements, diet, anything TANGIBLE?? I mean yeah great metaphor hehe but please could you explain me how to "turn off the spicket"?
    I should take supplements for the GI tract? Enzymes, beneficial bacteria? What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    So, supplements, diet, anything TANGIBLE?? I mean yeah great metaphor hehe but please could you explain me how to "turn off the spicket"?
    I should take supplements for the GI tract? Enzymes, beneficial bacteria? What?
    1. need to evaluate first other wise you are chasing a ghost with supplementation which in complex biology can cause more issues until more is known
    2. Rebalance very carefully from the information of testing which is going to be conducted.
    3. Learn patiences and focus on stress management

    Here is what I forshadow
    There will be many nutritonal imbalances which may be precipitated by inflammation of the GI tract which is most in a major state of dybiosis. This is compromising your immune system over time causing adrenal imbalances as well as neurological dysregulation. Even thought you appear to have decent cortisol it is given you false representation of what it really should be. In a given immune system response of high histamines one should see a diurnal pattern of higher then normal level of cortisol in order for the body to fight the inflammation and to have reserve over. Since dealing with this concept, and introducing it several different Dr's it has begin to open their eyes to really how the cortisol patterns should read vs what they do read. By correcting the underlying source of inflammation probably residing from the GI tract via dysbiosis and hidden food allergies which are compounding the problem. The hormonal and liver imbalances are secondary to the main cause which is the impact of the immune system on the neurotransmitters and adrenals. This is what the case scenerio will most likely show.

    Areas of focus biologically speaking
    1. Immune
    2. GI intergrity
    3. Neurotransmitters
    4. adrenals
    5. liver
    6. hormones

    Not saying if T is low that temporary bandaid effect of supplementation may not be a bad idea if you are not in position to do a restart (let testing confirm this)

    I will tell you be warned he may load you up with a ton of cookie cutter approach before going to individual. Honestly he loves cortef to and if address the underlying issue it will not be needed, may be 3-4 months TOPS till you body heals. I no longer recommend cortef to Dr's for over 2 years since its only a bandaid effect in many cases which can lead a person to psychological dependency on it for the fear of going into adrenal crisis.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    I will tell you be warned he may load you up with a ton of cookie cutter approach before going to individual. Honestly he loves cortef to and if address the underlying issue it will not be needed, may be 3-4 months TOPS till you body heals. I no longer recommend cortef to Dr's for over 2 years since its only a bandaid effect in many cases which can lead a person to psychological dependency on it for the fear of going into adrenal crisis.
    Thanks a lot for your input!! I really appreciate it. So, when I go to see him, I need to stress in getting tested the GI tract and inmune system right? What specific tests do I need?

    Can I take sam-E? Most fo undermethylators report great gains on it on Google.

    Oh and one more thing, what to treat first? GI tract or liver? Or I should detox/rebuild both at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Thanks a lot for your input!! I really appreciate it. So, when I go to see him, I need to stress in getting tested the GI tract and inmune system right? What specific tests do I need?

    Can I take sam-E? Most fo undermethylators report great gains on it on Google.

    Oh and one more thing, what to treat first? GI tract or liver? Or I should detox/rebuild both at the same time?
    If he is good dr he will know how to handle your case. Most drs will want to do things in layers. I tend to focus on adrenal, GI, immune , neurological, thyroid then take hormone systems in consideration not primary like every one things or is finding out. I like to get a broad spectrum of what is really going on and see how all the systems are being effects as whole as on an indivudal basis. This will make it easier to know where to make recommendations for the medical professional to look next.

    Detox GI tract fix support the liver and all the other systems waiting for body to heal. You have a multifacet issue which needs to be chunked down and decompartmentalized then it will be easy to manage. You are not going t go in there and probably hit every thing all i one day. Normal time frame is 4-6 months till you have a good indication of what is going to go one. If properly handled should feel effects in few weeks slowly. MY concern is that you are going to get anxious wanting push the envelope. The only thing this results in take one step forward 3 steps back wards. Go slow go methodical and change 1-2 variables at time other wise you will not be able monitor response increasing failure rate signifcant. People complain at first about going slow, but when you can isolate the variable which is causing the problem it can be addressed immediately in stead of "what is this , not that, may it was this" mentality. Sam-e does work but you need to address the proper pathways in order not to get it spiining out of control which I have seen induce extreme anxiety and paranoid from people who self treat who listen to some idiot off line.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    If he is good dr he will know how to handle your case. Most drs will want to do things in layers. I tend to focus on adrenal, GI, immune , neurological, thyroid then take hormone systems in consideration not primary like every one things or is finding out. I like to get a broad spectrum of what is really going on and see how all the systems are being effects as whole as on an indivudal basis. This will make it easier to know where to make recommendations for the medical professional to look next.

    Detox GI tract fix support the liver and all the other systems waiting for body to heal. You have a multifacet issue which needs to be chunked down and decompartmentalized then it will be easy to manage. You are not going t go in there and probably hit every thing all i one day. Normal time frame is 4-6 months till you have a good indication of what is going to go one. If properly handled should feel effects in few weeks slowly. MY concern is that you are going to get anxious wanting push the envelope. The only thing this results in take one step forward 3 steps back wards. Go slow go methodical and change 1-2 variables at time other wise you will not be able monitor response increasing failure rate signifcant. People complain at first about going slow, but when you can isolate the variable which is causing the problem it can be addressed immediately in stead of "what is this , not that, may it was this" mentality. Sam-e does work but you need to address the proper pathways in order not to get it spiining out of control which I have seen induce extreme anxiety and paranoid from people who self treat who listen to some idiot off line.
    Yeap I got it, first get tested for knowing what to take and what to avoid, then go slowly with supplementation to monitorize the effects of each supplement. I will come back here with the results of the tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Yeap I got it, first get tested for knowing what to take and what to avoid, then go slowly with supplementation to monitorize the effects of each supplement. I will come back here with the results of the tests.
    Now you are taking a rational and logical approach rather then typical mentality which many take on the forum hence you come..
    The end result will be better therapeutic out come, then previously thought. As I tell people I see, Majority of the healing begins once they leave your office. This is way developing a good repoir with people coming to see you is critical. One needs to be on best bed side behavior unlike other Dr's I have run across to in my journeys..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    I forgot to add that I went into REANDRON one year ago, injectable testosterone 1000 mg/4 ml, Testosterone Undecanoate.

    During the time I was on Reandron, my muscles and energy for workout were quite amazing (compared with how I am now), I forgot it. Erections were better, but it didnt improve me enough. When the effect dissipated I felt worse.

    Could this have triggered my high E2? Does high E2 maintain all a year or more since you elevated it??

    The first tests I had, the ones from the 24 of june of 2011, are the only ones I had BEFORE Reandron...

    I have to add that my symptoms begun long, long ago, like a year and a half before the injection, they have been worsening gradually... but this injection harmed me even more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    I forgot to add that I went into REANDRON one year ago, injectable testosterone 1000 mg/4 ml, Testosterone Undecanoate.

    During the time I was on Reandron, my muscles and energy for workout were quite amazing (compared with how I am now), I forgot it. Erections were better, but it didnt improve me enough. When the effect dissipated I felt worse.

    Could this have triggered my high E2? Does high E2 maintain all a year or more since you elevated it??

    The first tests I had, the ones from the 24 of june of 2011, are the only ones I had BEFORE Reandron...

    I have to add that my symptoms begun long, long ago, like a year and a half before the injection, they have been worsening gradually... but this injection harmed me even more?
    Injection not knowing the mechanism of the drug, if the adrenals where not up to par could have weaken them in their pre existing state.
    So answer could be possible yes if underlying adrenal issues or psychological issues were
    present before.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Yes, I was bad and I got worse.

    So, anyway lets look forward and focus in the future.

    Now I am in this state and I need to treat this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Injection not knowing the mechanism of the drug, if the adrenals where not up to par could have weaken them in their pre existing state.
    So answer could be possible yes if underlying adrenal issues or psychological issues were
    present before.
    Hey Matrix.

    About Gluthatione. Setria Reduced Gluthatione (oral) is worthless? What about liposomal Gluthatione? Which is the one you have had more success with? Ive assumed now that any detox and especially the one I will need (I have low glutamine,glycine and cysteine) have gluthatione as a obligatory step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Hey Matrix.

    About Gluthatione. Setria Reduced Gluthatione (oral) is worthless? What about liposomal Gluthatione? Which is the one you have had more success with? Ive assumed now that any detox and especially the one I will need (I have low glutamine,glycine and cysteine) have gluthatione as a obligatory step.
    Now you are starting to see the picture. Instead of dealing with the substrates go right to the source. Here is a free bee
    Acetyl gluthathione -- be warned if you start blasting and immune system and adrenals are not ready they may crash..
    But you are still addressing the symptoms not the root cause of why you have such low levels - GI, hidden toxins - testing to verify these.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Now you are starting to see the picture. Instead of dealing with the substrates go right to the source. Here is a free bee
    Acetyl gluthathione -- be warned if you start blasting and immune system and adrenals are not ready they may crash..
    But you are still addressing the symptoms not the root cause of why you have such low levels - GI, hidden toxins - testing to verify these.
    Yeah I know, im just gathering info for the future. Are you saying that NAC is not advised? Ive read many times people react very bad to NAC, but maybe its because it is working (detox reaction)? Do the oral glutathione products that I asked you work? So Acetyl Gluthatione uh? Seems legit. Nutricology brand would work? Sure this stuff is expensive! Maybe I should consider better liposomal...How dosage would you reccomend? 200 mg/day? Thanks for everything Shawn, Ive had my doubts about you but surely you know this stuff, there HAS to be a root cause (I have serious suspects of some kind of intoxication) for my problems because overejaculation doesnt sound that credible lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Yeah I know, im just gathering info for the future. Are you saying that NAC is not advised? Ive read many times people react very bad to NAC, but maybe its because it is working (detox reaction)? Do the oral glutathione products that I asked you work? So Acetyl Gluthatione uh? Seems legit. Nutricology brand would work? Sure this stuff is expensive! Maybe I should consider better liposomal...How dosage would you reccomend? 200 mg/day? Thanks for everything Shawn, Ive had my doubts about you but surely you know this stuff, there HAS to be a root cause (I have serious suspects of some kind of intoxication) for my problems because overejaculation doesnt sound that credible lol
    You are probably extremely toxic need to find out why proper testing by DR H if he is willing to explore it.
    NAC reacts when people have PST down regulation with in the liver the pathway.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    You are probably extremely toxic need to find out why proper testing by DR H if he is willing to explore it.
    NAC reacts when people have PST down regulation with in the liver the pathway.
    What kind of fiber do you reccomend to get rid of the toxins released on the GI tract? Would oat milk, wholegrain wheat biscuits and high fiber oat biscuits work? If soya milk is bad, please tell me a fluid, I cant eat all this fiber without it yuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    What kind of fiber do you reccomend to get rid of the toxins released on the GI tract? Would oat milk, wholegrain wheat biscuits and high fiber oat biscuits work? If soya milk is bad, please tell me a fluid, I cant eat all this fiber without it yuck.
    then you wonder.why you have gi issues ... This is why Dr need to ask questions. Its sitting there all.this time right in front of you all along..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    then you wonder.why you have gi issues ... This is why Dr need to ask questions. Its sitting there all.this time right in front of you all along..
    Mnnnnnnnnnn allriiiiight o_0
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    then you wonder.why you have gi issues ... This is why Dr need to ask questions. Its sitting there all.this time right in front of you all along..
    Hey Matrix so i went to the doctor. He understood my test results, and knew about methylation and gut etc, so I have hope on the guy. I got tested for Gluthatione,Folate, B6 etc many things more that I didnt check. He is Doctor Mouton. Any feedback of him? And in you opinion, in which area should I focus more, gut or methylation? I mean, which is the part of the system that will provide more improvements with
    the symptoms if treated? In your opinion, what can be the root cause, having in account your experience in the matter? What are the common causes for someone having leaky gut/ gut inflammation or malabsorption of nutrients and undermethylation?
    This doctor seems to focus more on the gut and nutrition, and I know I will progress a lot with him but I have to wait more than a month for the next appointment when we will analyse the results of the tests... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Hey Matrix so i went to the doctor. He understood my test results, and knew about methylation and gut etc, so I have hope on the guy. I got tested for Gluthatione,Folate, B6 etc many things more that I didnt check. He is Doctor Mouton. Any feedback of him? And in you opinion, in which area should I focus more, gut or methylation? I mean, which is the part of the system that will provide more improvements with
    the symptoms if treated? In your opinion, what can be the root cause, having in account your experience in the matter? What are the common causes for someone having leaky gut/ gut inflammation or malabsorption of nutrients and undermethylation?
    This doctor seems to focus more on the gut and nutrition, and I know I will progress a lot with him but I have to wait more than a month for the next appointment when we will analyse the results of the tests... :/
    STRESS (biologically, structural, psychological, environmental, lifestlyes) and imbalances in a person's lifestyles or poor life choices over the years. You need to have Dr sit and listen to you to sift out the proper information. I can pretty much predict, hidden food allergies, dysbosis which are lowering your adrenals glands adding stress to your HPTA resulting in dysregulation of hormonal pathways. Prolong exposure to stress probably caused alteration in pre existing MTHFR and possible CBS pathways which cause alterations in methylation. One needs to deal with inflammatory first identify it and remove while supporting the other symptoms and biological systems. Instead of throwing hormones, pregenolone, and thyroid down your throat which is only going to end up as a bandaid effect over time which now people are starting to see TRT is just a bandaid effect for deeper issue temporary. Its strange how people tell me I am nut job ,quack, or I have no clue what I am talking about by other Dr's who only just what debunk me for their own self pride, but here you went to one of the best Dr's in europe who was saying the same thing I have been saying for past several years..How ironic..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    I no longer recommend cortef to Dr's for over 2 years since its only a bandaid effect in many cases which can lead a person to psychological dependency on it for the fear of going into adrenal crisis.
    I have a love / hate relationship with cortef. It has helped me a lot since I started it, but I can not get off it. I ended up in the hospital with adrenal crisis the last time I stopped it. I've never felt that horrible in my life it was scary. Then again, I've never had adrenal crisis till I started cortef, I think m body requires it now after prolonged useage...sigh... going to be a tough med to stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    I have a love / hate relationship with cortef. It has helped me a lot since I started it, but I can not get off it. I ended up in the hospital with adrenal crisis the last time I stopped it. I've never felt that horrible in my life it was scary. Then again, I've never had adrenal crisis till I started cortef, I think m body requires it now after prolonged useage...sigh... going to be a tough med to stop
    Gutter, From being associated with the some of brilliant minds in medicine when it comes to these things , I am find ways of manipulating enyzmatic pathways through modulalation of neurotransmitters and the immune system which is enable Dr's to start to lean their patients off cortef. This scenerio is not an easy task by nature, but is pushing my knowledge and understanding of enzymatic pathways to the next level. There are ways I am finding to jump start adrenal glands in some cases, just like recharging a battery which has been proven in research through activating specific areas of the adrenal glands. These are just the few things I have been working on under the radar. Unfortunately like many people who have followed the current trends of the forums, I have been always one to go against them. People been chasing rt3 for years guess what. It made people realize it was not a cause, but rather a symptoms. I got called a Quack, and taunted guess what after several years I was right. Medical professionals looking at one specific area eventually over the next 5 years be slowly phased out. The future of medical professionals is going to treat the entire person each individual system and know who they are intricately connected to get the best out come. By working with Dr's, they are seeing this huge improvements in over all of their patients by taking this approach.
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    So as someone who lives a very stressful life (high stress job with sometimes very long hours, living in NYC, trains hard, etc), you do think I will eventually be able to ween off of cortef? I am just sick of worrying what would happen if I ran out, or end up in the hospital for an emergency (surgery, anaesthesia, etc), and I am sick of feeling very shaky whenever a highly stressful event happens (stress response / CNS out of wack due to low cortisol).

    One thing I have been doing, is looking into a fully Paleo diet, to reduce inflammation throughout the body. I know my body should require less cortisol in the system once I've fully taken on the diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    So as someone who lives a very stressful life (high stress job with sometimes very long hours, living in NYC, trains hard, etc), you do think I will eventually be able to ween off of cortef? I am just sick of worrying what would happen if I ran out, or end up in the hospital for an emergency (surgery, anaesthesia, etc), and I am sick of feeling very shaky whenever a highly stressful event happens (stress response / CNS out of wack due to low cortisol).

    One thing I have been doing, is looking into a fully Paleo diet, to reduce inflammation throughout the body. I know my body should require less cortisol in the system once I've fully taken on the diet.
    YES now you are starting to see what I have been preaching all along to the people on the forums chasing hormonal expressions. If all things go well there is going to be a huge transition coming going to rattle some cages ..
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    YES now you are starting to see what I have been preaching all along to the people on the forums chasing hormonal expressions. If all things go well there is going to be a huge transition coming going to rattle some cages ..
    You mean Paleo diet is the way to go, Matrix?
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    You mean Paleo diet is the way to go, Matrix?
    I use extensive food allergy testing to identify which foods are inflammatory to the body then recommend removing those foods and then working on restoring the mucosa of the GI tract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    I use extensive food allergy testing to identify which foods are inflammatory to the body then recommend removing those foods and then working on restoring the mucosa of the GI tract.
    That is just what Dr Mouton is doing with the poor me haha he made a lot of food allergies tests. Im totally seeing improvement in no longer than two months. Will keep everyone informed!
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    That is just what Dr Mouton is doing with the poor me haha he made a lot of food allergies tests. Im totally seeing improvement in no longer than two months. Will keep everyone informed!
    Funny how people mock me, but now the one of the best dr's in europe is doing everything which I have been suggesting. How long have I been telling you about this? Just imagine if people actually listen to what I have been saying instead of chasing hormones. Then when I have a open minded Dr I am working with, peoples turn around time is much quicker.. As I have stated time and time again, hormones are usually an expression of a deeper cause. When dealing with food allergies supporting adrenals and neuropathways may be needed. Since working with more Dr's the need for HRT in younger guys <30-35 has dropped by 50% or more. I got special permission to work with One of americas oldest wellness center. My goal is get people of drugs, the ones who have been falsely them by lazy or uneducated Drs in the first place. Next time you see Dr Mouton, mention what I have been saying. I enjoy establish relationship with like minded medical professionals. You want to really raise his eye brows..ask if he plans to incorporate biosporin/ mutaflor down the road. Only a handful of Dr's known about them..
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    I wish I knew then what I knew now, for sure. I just happen to be one of those unlucky guys with a varicocele, a pituitary microadenoma, and been working with GI issues to fix my low total cholesterol. Couldn't ask for more luck I guess lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    I wish I knew then what I knew now, for sure. I just happen to be one of those unlucky guys with a varicocele, a pituitary microadenoma, and been working with GI issues to fix my low total cholesterol. Couldn't ask for more luck I guess lol
    Repairing GI issues IMO a lot more challenge then dealing with hormones because you have to know how neurological, immune system, and endocrine system are all tied in other wise you will not get desired results. It took me years, lots of research, self experimentation, and talking to some of the top specialist in the field to get a grasp on this stuff. Issues I deal with Dr's are not ones taught in medical school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Funny how people mock me, but now the one of the best dr's in europe is doing everything which I have been suggesting. How long have I been telling you about this? Just imagine if people actually listen to what I have been saying instead of chasing hormones. Then when I have a open minded Dr I am working with, peoples turn around time is much quicker.. As I have stated time and time again, hormones are usually an expression of a deeper cause. When dealing with food allergies supporting adrenals and neuropathways may be needed. Since working with more Dr's the need for HRT in younger guys <30-35 has dropped by 50% or more. I got special permission to work with One of americas oldest wellness center. My goal is get people of drugs, the ones who have been falsely them by lazy or uneducated Drs in the first place. Next time you see Dr Mouton, mention what I have been saying. I enjoy establish relationship with like minded medical professionals. You want to really raise his eye brows..ask if he plans to incorporate biosporin/ mutaflor down the road. Only a handful of Dr's known about them..
    Will do it, HANS. I have learned to appreciate your in-depth insights in the matter, but what made me and makes people disrespect you or suspect is the behaviour and way you talks. Just some fuel for thoughts. One of the things that made me doubt was that two guys of these corners of the Net (one of them is much more active on forums than the other) reported me that they worked with you with no result, but one of them remarked that you were a good choice for getting tests and for pointing us in the right direction. I dont know why these guys failed, but I will begin healing my gut and then I will treat liver and then the next step its not so clear, but I can promise it will be with some more research and the support of my Dr.

    I cannot believe im actually so near to begin a real healing!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    I wish I knew then what I knew now, for sure. I just happen to be one of those unlucky guys with a varicocele, a pituitary microadenoma, and been working with GI issues to fix my low total cholesterol. Couldn't ask for more luck I guess lol

    Hey man, im actually low in cholesterol as well. What have you gathered/progressed so far? Im in a high protein, high good-fats, high fiber, no sugar, low carbohydrates diet nowadays to see if my leaky intestines get something until the next appointment/ load of supplements.
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    I include a lot of coconut oil / coconut milk in my diet and my cholesterol has improved. But now I found a new issue. Lauric acid in coconut oil supposedly lowers the activity of 5-alpha reductase, which is the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. I'm already on the low end of DHT when on injections only for TRT. This extra decrease in 5-AR activity is unwelcome. I won't change my coconut oil intake though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Will do it, HANS. I have learned to appreciate your in-depth insights in the matter, but what made me and makes people disrespect you or suspect is the behaviour and way you talks. Just some fuel for thoughts. One of the things that made me doubt was that two guys of these corners of the Net (one of them is much more active on forums than the other) reported me that they worked with you with no result, but one of them remarked that you were a good choice for getting tests and for pointing us in the right direction. I dont know why these guys failed, but I will begin healing my gut and then I will treat liver and then the next step its not so clear, but I can promise it will be with some more research and the support of my Dr.

    I cannot believe im actually so near to begin a real healing!!
    WTF ..one thing I try to emphasis you never had some kind of disease, you had imbalances which needed to be identified and properly address. I never use the words "heal" or "cure", but they some how get associate with me. They are curse words. As mention before 60% of the healing process is complete when the person leaves the office with confidence in the person they are working with. This will determine who fails or who succeeds. People who do not visit forums are the ones who have the fastest turn around times because they do not question or have the kangeroo court influencing them.
    The reason they did not get better was because they probably were listening to many people and doing their own thing. Majority of them never followed up to find out where the problem was. They also had failure set in their mind and body just follows. When people stay the course have a good open minded medical Dr in the picture then it makes things go so much smoother. This is why I choose the path I did by focusing on working with the medical system and acting as resource tool for Dr's when they run into brick wall. Dr's have to treat their patients they do not have time to keep up on every changing field of medicine. I am not treating or diagnosing any one, I am providing the information for the Dr to make the best choices for their patient. Its just a matter of time before so one makes me an offer I can not refuse..I feel it coming and its going to be big..

    As for to speed up recovery, Get the hell off the internet and start living life. You are going to be fine, I have known about Dr Mouton for a while, and had another guy who was trying to connect us as well.
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    Are you still working with Dr Overbeck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFFFFFFFFFFF View Post
    Hey man, im actually low in cholesterol as well. What have you gathered/progressed so far? Im in a high protein, high good-fats, high fiber, no sugar, low carbohydrates diet nowadays to see if my leaky intestines get something until the next appointment/ load of supplements.

    High fiber lowers cholesterol because it finds with fat and can also deplete your nutrients or supplements as well. He's got one of the most powerful drugs to heal leaky gut over in france I wonder if he is aware of it? Needs to open up conjugation pathways in order to have proper bile flow. Cholesterol is low because its being diverted from making hormones and bile acids to help deal with the inflammatory response of the GI tract by increasing gluthithone production. This sets up a vicious cycle with out cholesterol you can not make bile or hormones. With out bile you can not absorb fats
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    As for to speed up recovery, Get the hell off the internet and start living life. You are going to be fine, I have known about Dr Mouton for a while, and had another guy who was trying to connect us as well.
    I dont completely agree with thinking that not-Google-fanatic people have more chances of recovering their health when they fall into disorders, imbalances or illness. I firmly believe that informing myself was a great decision, indeed. Not to mention the support and benefits of engaging into a network/community of people with similar problems. But I will give you that I have boosted greatly my PC addiction by doing so, also anxiety, the posture of back, and hypochondria etc worsened.

    In any way, I cannot live life without erections xDDDDD, so I will rather wait till I see some improvements. In the meantime, I will try to focus more on literature,videogames and university than in my "illness"
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    High fiber lowers cholesterol because it finds with fat and can also deplete your nutrients or supplements as well. He's got one of the most powerful drugs to heal leaky gut over in france I wonder if he is aware of it? Needs to open up conjugation pathways in order to have proper bile flow. Cholesterol is low because its being diverted from making hormones and bile acids to help deal with the inflammatory response of the GI tract by increasing gluthithone production. This sets up a vicious cycle with out cholesterol you can not make bile or hormones. With out bile you can not absorb fats
    Ok I wasnt taking that much fiber anyway. Thanks a lot for your input!
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