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    I would like to know what treatment options are available to help with gut issues. If you have had food intolerances or irritable bowel symptoms or similar what has worked for you. I'm really interested in the range of options rather than looking for something specific for me. I'm especially interested in things that might help in case of immunological abnormalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    I would like to know what treatment options are available to help with gut issues. If you have had food intolerances or irritable bowel symptoms or similar what has worked for you. I'm really interested in the range of options rather than looking for something specific for me. I'm especially interested in things that might help in case of immunological abnormalities.
    Here is how I approach each and every case and its a pretty fail safe method.

    1. I look at every person as if they where an autistic child.
    2. Look at the pathology of the problem by examining past medical history, and reason to why they are having these issues. Further evaluate stressors based on biological, psychological, environmental, structural, lifestyle and nutritional imbalances
    3. Then formulate list of test to clarify clinically for further medical validations for Dr's
    4. After getting results back, I then look how these things connect together to explain what the person is experience to provide a rational answers to the medical professional
    5. Look to see how to balance each system in what specific order to get the best clinical response for my final presentation to the Dr.

    When dealing with GI areas to focus on and what factors affect each.
    1. immune system-
    2. neurotransmitters
    3. adrenals
    4. Hormones -

    I have a methodology used to heal gut with out antibiotics - need to beef up immune system, remove the irritation to the GI tract, support adrenals, heal the gut lining. Just like HRT this is an art form filled with lots of science which only a few Dr's have a true understanding of. Again these are the basis, and how one does it is totally individual.

    Number one rule. You can not heal the gut until you detox heavy metals which throws another curve ball at you. IF you do not remove the metals the gut will never heal properly. All those probiotics are wasted down the toilet because they be able to adhere to an inflammed wall.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    It really depends on how deep you want to get and how much money can spend. Three of the biggest areas to look at are yeast overgrowth, food allergies, and gut inflammation in general. I would start with a good quality probiotic (not from a big box store, go to a good health food store or pharmacy that sells quality products) and fish oil. From there you will likely need to do some of your own research to evaluate where to go next as it relates to food allergies and yeast problems.
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    Well, a completely different tack would be to consider dietary Histamine and Histamine intolerance.
    *** .ajcn.org/content/85/5/1185.full ***
    Try HISTAME for a while, to see if it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shbg82 View Post
    Well, a completely different tack would be to consider dietary Histamine and Histamine intolerance.
    *** .ajcn.org/content/85/5/1185.full ***
    Try HISTAME for a while, to see if it helps.
    The histamines would be coming from the inflammation found in the GI tract whether from pathogenic bacteria or food allergies, or genetic methylation issues. You are only looking at the symptoms not the cause . I know because I have been through all of this on a personal levels and I was chasing symptoms until I put together the total picture and stopped micromanaging things. This is typical mentality of traditional medicine with the end results just coming up with bandaid effect.
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    Holistic gut therapy is the only way to go. Take it from someone else with a serious history of gut pathologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Holistic gut therapy is the only way to go. Take it from someone else with a serious history of gut pathologies.
    Amen, I have also been through it as well, and have learned and implemented a bunch new cutting edge methods with Drs I have been assisting. If you think a probiotic is going to help in complex cases one needs to think again. In some cases can make matters worse if other factors are not dealt with first. Why know with what and who you are dealing with is crucial in proper treatment. I have seen so many other people fail because their Dr's did not check into things deeper.
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    How often do you advise endoscopies rather than CDSAs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    How often do you advise endoscopies rather than CDSAs?
    organic acid.test then we stool tests to.confirm. Endoscopy are wastes more can be found out in less evasive ways. I have done hundreds.of these tests and can spot certain patterns which are associated with gi related issues which are.hidden. One also has to examine other systems to see.if there are imbalances which.may be associated.with ones finding. One thing feeds another if not.properly balanced.
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    If you do have yeast overgrowth of the GI tract then what do you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1;30976n84
    If you do have yeast overgrowth of the GI tract then what do you do?
    need to find out why then.look.for issues to.why.your.body can.not.unload it. Where ever yeast.there are.other pathogens in majority of cases. Majority of.my.time is developing gi protolcols for Drs i consult with. Amazing 90% of.people gi tracts are.imbalance and its effecting whole system ..
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    what if say someone was exposed to yeast a few times while on Nexium/Prilosec for 5 years. What do you do now to combat the yeast that took over the GI tract and affected the prostate thus causing low test levels?
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    There are some supplements that can help, there is one called Candida Clear from Now Foods. Of course Rx antifungals are more powerful, but are very harsh on the kidneys and liver longer term. You would need to make adjustments to the diet that deal primarily with eliminating sugars. Just google yeast elimination. Being on a PPI like Nexium or repeated antibiotic courses often lead to yeast problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPHMark View Post
    There are some supplements that can help, there is one called Candida Clear from Now Foods. Of course Rx antifungals are more powerful, but are very harsh on the kidneys and liver longer term. You would need to make adjustments to the diet that deal primarily with eliminating sugars. Just google yeast elimination. Being on a PPI like Nexium or repeated antibiotic courses often lead to yeast problems.
    Mark.these are all.excellent points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    what if say someone was exposed to yeast a few times while on Nexium/Prilosec for 5 years. What do you do now to combat the yeast that took over the GI tract and affected the prostate thus causing low test levels?
    I had a doctor that diagnosed me with candida problems at one point. He liked to hit it hard with antifungals. One of the more interesting ones was econazole. This one has poor bioavailability and so it stays in the digestive tract which is really what you want. This way it is not rough on the liver/kidneys etc. I think you need to get this from a compounding pharmacy for capsules. Longer term you will need to control it with diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shbg82 View Post
    Well, a completely different tack would be to consider dietary Histamine and Histamine intolerance.
    *** .ajcn.org/content/85/5/1185.full ***
    Try HISTAME for a while, to see if it helps.
    I saw this one is out there. Have you tried it? While I agree with the matrix that we would like to get at the cause of the inflammation sometimes you can't and perhaps treating the symptoms will provide some relief.

    Another one along these lines is Cissus which may have some gastroprotective activity. Anyone tried this?
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    Yes, I use HISTAME. It is pig DAO (diamine oxidase). My personal allergic reaction to food histamine is swollen nasal passages, but there is
    a wide range of possible affected areas in the body, especially GI. For $30 a bottle of 30, it is an interesting SELF experment.
    USA medicine is years behind Europe on DAO research....just like they were on candisis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    I had a doctor that diagnosed me with candida problems at one point. He liked to hit it hard with antifungals. One of the more interesting ones was econazole. This one has poor bioavailability and so it stays in the digestive tract which is really what you want. This way it is not rough on the liver/kidneys etc. I think you need to get this from a compounding pharmacy for capsules. Longer term you will need to control it with diet.
    You need to get the immune system under control because some times there is elevated il-12 in cytokins which will prevent the body from killing of the candida. One needs to modulate the immune system through several different channels as well as clear the pending infection with specific herbs or medicine. With some Dr's I have recommended other techinques which need to be ran through one's dr due to they have to be monitored for proper CMP's when these are adminstered. REducing processed sugars would be the first start as well as supporting the proper digestive enyzmes to help prevent the pathogenic bacteria from grabing on to in the first place. Again each case is specific, and there are multiply ways I would recommend handling things. Dr's I work with enjoy consulting because they are also learning new things which can help their patients in the future. I do not like to ever recommend cookie cutter methods since every one body can respond differently. Histamines come from dysbiosis, alterations in methylation, or heavy metals which can be triggered by improper DNA gene expression. These are the 3 major areas which I see this occur in >90% of case. All these factors are inflammatory states with in the body.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shbg82 View Post
    OK hitest...
    You posted a thread, and asked about alternative ideas on solving gut issues. XYLITOL will kill, bacteria(oral and gut) and fungus(candida, oral and gut).
    For New Years Eve I made a pumpkin roll using xylitol. This really made me feel a lot better - less fatigue, better mojo, and improvements in other recent symptoms. I plan to continue to use this stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    For New Years Eve I made a pumpkin roll using xylitol. This really made me feel a lot better - less fatigue, better mojo, and improvements in other recent symptoms. I plan to continue to use this stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.
    probably felt.good.with every things else.which you.were drinking.
    Red flag for.insulin resistance.possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    probably felt.good.with every things else.which you.were drinking.
    Red flag for.insulin resistance.possible.
    Haha. Drinking usually does not make me feel good. I did have some 7% alcohol Asti to drink and stayed up late so it was that much more surprising that I felt better the next day. These past several weeks I have really had a hard time in the AM. The stuff did give me the runs though but that I'm sure will get better as my laxation threshold increases. No chance of insulin resistance - my fasting levels are 0 and glucose is good. The red flag is bad gut flora. I think this stuff really impacts that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    Haha. Drinking usually does not make me feel good. I did have some 7% alcohol Asti to drink and stayed up late so it was that much more surprising that I felt better the next day. These past several weeks I have really had a hard time in the AM. The stuff did give me the runs though but that I'm sure will get better as my laxation threshold increases. No chance of insulin resistance - my fasting levels are 0 and glucose is good. The red flag is bad gut flora. I think this stuff really impacts that.
    again do.not be fooled by resting insulin.being low. Thats at rest.not.functional..Drs.playe s that bs.with.me had glucose.80 gave me 100.grams sugar went to 1 hour 160 2 hour 60 3 hours.40. But i had proper levels...bull.sh*t then.you.wonder why.people.are.sick.in.this.co ntrol. Until.you.been yanked.by system.i.do.not.discount anything till i have sufficient.evidence to confirm. Most Drs run what ever test i.suggest since this is all.new.to them and.medical.validated. Can i.tell.you.how.many insulin resistant.cases resolved when gi tract was healed? Kind of scary uhh.
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    HITEST have you tried CANDEX?

    Yes, large amounts of XYLITOL will cause GI distress.

    If you suspect candida overrun, have you had an IGE test, to look for LEAKY GUT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shbg82 View Post
    HITEST have you tried CANDEX?

    Yes, large amounts of XYLITOL will cause GI distress.

    If you suspect candida overrun, have you had an IGE test, to look for LEAKY GUT?
    I know for sure that I have a leaky gut. Was diagnosed years ago and treated but never was able to fully recover. At the time the focus was on Candida. I have not tried CANDEX specifically but have tried similar products. I know now that Candida is a secondary problem for me. Even after beating it into submission my gut is still leaky. I have a primary specific immune deficiency that started the leaky gut and Candida opportunistically came along later and gives me troubles too sometimes.

    So far I really like Xylitol and plan to incorporate it into my gut management routine. I still have to work out the best way to do this. It won't fix my primary problem but seems that it may help manage my secondary gut issues better than anything else I have tried. We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    I know for sure that I have a leaky gut. Was diagnosed years ago and treated but never was able to fully recover. At the time the focus was on Candida. I have not tried CANDEX specifically but have tried similar products. I know now that Candida is a secondary problem for me. Even after beating it into submission my gut is still leaky. I have a primary specific immune deficiency that started the leaky gut and Candida opportunistically came along later and gives me troubles too sometimes.

    So far I really like Xylitol and plan to incorporate it into my gut management routine. I still have to work out the best way to do this. It won't fix my primary problem but seems that it may help manage my secondary gut issues better than anything else I have tried. We shall see.
    Dealing with GI recovery with out covering all basis will only result in it coming right back. You are on a decent start about 5 % got another 90 plus to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Dealing with GI recovery with out covering all basis will only result in it coming right back. You are on a decent start about 5 % got another 90 plus to go
    I wish we knew what all the bases are. That is what I spend all my free time working on. Poorly funded basic research moves slowly. Since I cannot do new drug development my best chance is to do trials of treatments on myself and see if anything helps. Sadly the previous treatment I tried made me worse. There is no way to predict these outcomes in advance since we only have a basic understanding of my immune system problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    I wish we knew what all the bases are. That is what I spend all my free time working on. Poorly funded basic research moves slowly. Since I cannot do new drug development my best chance is to do trials of treatments on myself and see if anything helps. Sadly the previous treatment I tried made me worse. There is no way to predict these outcomes in advance since we only have a basic understanding of my immune system problems.
    I have been doing this for over 5 years revamping, modifying, learning to get the best approach out there for medical professionals and their patients. Again everything is individualized. The biggest advantage I have is being in the medical community and access to the best names in the field to reference and learn from. Its an ever changing field where being a medical professional's research tool comes in handy since there is not enough time in the day for them as is. The secret is knowing the pathology of the issue the person is dealing with along with the help of their medical professionals to allow further testing to be conducted to explore further if needed. As I have learned, slow and steady. Their are paradoxical cases out there which I have ran across which throw medical professionals for a loop. Having been on both side of the coin it makes things alot easier since I have been through majority of things already.
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    I could sure use something for the gut! I am nearly certain I have some intestinal/ GI issues going on.

    I have AT MINIMUM 5-6 bowl movements a day...typically not solid. Is that normal for anyone else? I do not have a gall bladder--as it was removed when I had liver cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    I have been doing this for over 5 years revamping, modifying, learning to get the best approach out there for medical professionals and their patients. Again everything is individualized. The biggest advantage I have is being in the medical community and access to the best names in the field to reference and learn from. Its an ever changing field where being a medical professional's research tool comes in handy since there is not enough time in the day for them as is. The secret is knowing the pathology of the issue the person is dealing with along with the help of their medical professionals to allow further testing to be conducted to explore further if needed. As I have learned, slow and steady. Their are paradoxical cases out there which I have ran across which throw medical professionals for a loop. Having been on both side of the coin it makes things alot easier since I have been through majority of things already.
    My biggest advantage is being in the medical research community. I have access to things even doctors don't have. I have a lab and am connected to the biotech industry. Nevertheless, it is still very hard to make progress in understanding a novel disease especially if your funding is limited. Research is expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    My biggest advantage is being in the medical research community. I have access to things even doctors don't have. I have a lab and am connected to the biotech industry. Nevertheless, it is still very hard to make progress in understanding a novel disease especially if your funding is limited. Research is expensive.
    Research is out there already just have to connect the dots and how it is integrated. This takes lots of time and experimentation (on my self before introducing to other medical professionals.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    I could sure use something for the gut! I am nearly certain I have some intestinal/ GI issues going on.

    I have AT MINIMUM 5-6 bowl movements a day...typically not solid. Is that normal for anyone else? I do not have a gall bladder--as it was removed when I had liver cancer.
    For sure this is not normal. Obviously you have a significant history of health issues. Cancer treatment is usually hard on the gut. It may be, however, that your gallbladder removal is more related to this. The gallbladder is needed for processing certain fats. Perhaps you can switch your diet to medium chain triglycerides which do not require bile to process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Research is out there already just have to connect the dots and how it is integrated. This takes lots of time and experimentation (on my self before introducing to other medical professionals.)
    Research may be 10 or even 20 years ahead of clinical practice but there is still far more that we don't know than we do know when it comes to human health and that goes double for personalized medicine.

    I'm happy for you that you seem to have a satisfactory solution for your ailments albeit still requiring quite a large number of ongoing treatments. I only have a vague idea of what your final conclusions were and how you arrived at them and what else you may be doing besides the treatments you have posted. I can still say with confidence that my root problems are different and it is unlikely that you have ever seen someone with the same root problem. I do not believe that clinical diagnostic tests exist that would get at my problem but some research assays might be able to do so. I know that you have recommended testing from Genova (specifically Nutreval). None of these tests get at the immunological functions that are likely to be relevant for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    Research may be 10 or even 20 years ahead of clinical practice but there is still far more that we don't know than we do know when it comes to human health and that goes double for personalized medicine.

    I'm happy for you that you seem to have a satisfactory solution for your ailments albeit still requiring quite a large number of ongoing treatments. I only have a vague idea of what your final conclusions were and how you arrived at them and what else you may be doing besides the treatments you have posted. I can still say with confidence that my root problems are different and it is unlikely that you have ever seen someone with the same root problem. I do not believe that clinical diagnostic tests exist that would get at my problem but some research assays might be able to do so. I know that you have recommended testing from Genova (specifically Nutreval). None of these tests get at the immunological functions that are likely to be relevant for me.
    Neuroscience cytokine testing should help to shed some light.
    When you have nightly conversations with one of the most intellectual people when it comes to health, you tend to get a greater insight into things.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    I could sure use something for the gut! I am nearly certain I have some intestinal/ GI issues going on.

    I have AT MINIMUM 5-6 bowl movements a day...typically not solid. Is that normal for anyone else? I do not have a gall bladder--as it was removed when I had liver cancer.
    You have a hard time processing fats which can lead to runs. There are many other factors as well which need to be addressed.
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    when my gallbladder was removed over 10 years I had the same symptoms. those symptoms subsided about 2 years after removal. my doc at the time had me take Metamucil crackers or cookies twice a aday for a few years to absorb the bile which caused the runs. also the nexium/prilosec pills I was taking made the runs a whole lot worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    when my gallbladder was removed over 10 years I had the same symptoms. those symptoms subsided about 2 years after removal. my doc at the time had me take Metamucil crackers or cookies twice a aday for a few years to absorb the bile which caused the runs. also the nexium/prilosec pills I was taking made the runs a whole lot worse.
    Then you wonder why majority of our health issues are from Dr's putting people on drugs which treat one thing then cause issues with the next. I see your cases on a weekly basis and majority of them have lack of stomach acid not too much and this invites incressed pathogenic overgrowth of bacteria and yeast. Heal GI tract provide the proper enyzmatic reactions in the stomach to kill off the bacteria and your bowels over time will rebalance them selves. Your immune system is being compromsied, due to trama in the GI tract as 100% of people out there are dealing with. We are all toxic in one way or another..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Neuroscience cytokine testing should help to shed some light.
    When you have nightly conversations with one of the most intellectual people when it comes to health, you tend to get a greater insight into things.
    I had far more extensive cytokine testing done through a Stanford research study. I pasted the results below. The value is the number of standard deviations relative to controls. You will see that I am low across the board - sometimes very low. It is very hard to make sense of these results. I think it mostly reflects a dysregulated lymphocyte compartment which I already know about. How many patients you have seen with very low T cell and B cell counts?

    CD40Ligand -1.22126
    ENA78 -0.88751
    EOTAXIN -1.03174
    FGFb -1.6857
    G-CSF -2.13656
    GM-CSF -2.06967
    GRO ALPHA -1.75066
    HGF -2.96533
    ICAM-1 -0.40383
    IFN-a -1.55409
    IFN-b -1.31398
    IFN-G -3.65397
    IL-10 -1.45269
    IL-12-P70 -1.18689
    IL-12P40 -0.33684
    IL-13 -1.18631
    IL-15 -0.45661
    IL-17 -3.1585
    IL-17F -1.14049
    IL-1a -1.23659
    IL-1B -1.04665
    IL-1RA -0.58281
    IL-2 -1.07379
    IL-4 -1.7628
    IL-5 -3.46133
    IL-6 -1.72077
    IL-7 -2.22372
    IL-8 -1.6809
    IP10 -1.59126
    LEPTIN -0.82598
    LIF -2.94997
    M-CSF -0.29409
    MCP-1 -0.67416
    MCP-3 -0.14027
    MIG -2.26119
    MIP-1B -0.29534
    MIP1a -0.71704
    NGF -2.2904
    PAI-1 -1.06461
    PDGFBB -0.54418
    RANTES -4.02119
    Resistin -1.51161
    SCF -2.2217
    sFAS ligand -1.22241
    TGF-a -0.84949
    TGF-b -3.7906
    TNF-A -0.44415
    TNF-B -0.9224
    Trail -1.75439
    V-CAM-1 -1.28552
    VEGF -2.13115
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    I had far more extensive cytokine testing done through a Stanford research study. I pasted the results below. The value is the number of standard deviations relative to controls. You will see that I am low across the board - sometimes very low. It is very hard to make sense of these results. I think it mostly reflects a dysregulated lymphocyte compartment which I already know about. How many patients you have seen with very low T cell and B cell counts?

    CD40Ligand -1.22126
    ENA78 -0.88751
    EOTAXIN -1.03174
    FGFb -1.6857
    G-CSF -2.13656
    GM-CSF -2.06967
    GRO ALPHA -1.75066
    HGF -2.96533
    ICAM-1 -0.40383
    IFN-a -1.55409
    IFN-b -1.31398
    IFN-G -3.65397
    IL-10 -1.45269
    IL-12-P70 -1.18689
    IL-12P40 -0.33684
    IL-13 -1.18631
    IL-15 -0.45661
    IL-17 -3.1585
    IL-17F -1.14049
    IL-1a -1.23659
    IL-1B -1.04665
    IL-1RA -0.58281
    IL-2 -1.07379
    IL-4 -1.7628
    IL-5 -3.46133
    IL-6 -1.72077
    IL-7 -2.22372
    IL-8 -1.6809
    IP10 -1.59126
    LEPTIN -0.82598
    LIF -2.94997
    M-CSF -0.29409
    MCP-1 -0.67416
    MCP-3 -0.14027
    MIG -2.26119
    MIP-1B -0.29534
    MIP1a -0.71704
    NGF -2.2904
    PAI-1 -1.06461
    PDGFBB -0.54418
    RANTES -4.02119
    Resistin -1.51161
    SCF -2.2217
    sFAS ligand -1.22241
    TGF-a -0.84949
    TGF-b -3.7906
    TNF-A -0.44415
    TNF-B -0.9224
    Trail -1.75439
    V-CAM-1 -1.28552
    VEGF -2.13115
    Need ranges..
    What about being toxic or some kind of gene mutation. I need to know what areas have been explored: mitochondrion, neurology, endocrine,epigenetic, mutations, heavy metals, environmental hyper sensitivity, detoxifcation pathways. Need to look at all the potential blocks.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Need ranges..
    What about being toxic or some kind of gene mutation. I need to know what areas have been explored: mitochondrion, neurology, endocrine,epigenetic, mutations, heavy metals, environmental hyper sensitivity, detoxifcation pathways. Need to look at all the potential blocks.
    This is a research assay - not a clinical one - there are no ranges. That is why I reported the results as standard deviations. You can use your judgment about whether being lower than for example 99.85% (~3 SD) of people is abnormal or not.

    You omitted immunology from you list. That is where I think the action is but this is where functional testing is so limited.

    I'm curious what you think you can do for mutations. This is relevant for all the blocks but once again very little is available clinically. I can and have done more myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitest View Post
    This is a research assay - not a clinical one - there are no ranges. That is why I reported the results as standard deviations. You can use your judgment about whether being lower than for example 99.85% (~3 SD) of people is abnormal or not.

    You omitted immunology from you list. That is where I think the action is but this is where functional testing is so limited.

    I'm curious what you think you can do for mutations. This is relevant for all the blocks but once again very little is available clinically. I can and have done more myself.
    Need to identify them
    VDR
    MTHFR
    SOUX
    MS
    CBS
    GSH

    Immunnology is linked in to all the above since epigenics and nutragenomics drives it.
    immune system is the core to any recover program, hormones are just an expression of it.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
  

  
 

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