Anyone with low T any success with Natural TBoosting supplements or herbs

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    Anyone with low T any success with Natural TBoosting supplements or herbs


    Has anyone on the forum who suffers with low T or borderline low T levels had any success with raising levels with a natural otc supplement or natural herbs, if so what were they?
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    These are.not.long term solutions. Find out.why they are low and address.root cause. I have been preaching this for many years. Drs for manyare finally getting the message..
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    I understand totally, treat thecause not the symptom.
    But i was curious still if any men with low T had had benefits and results off Tboosting supplements or natural herbs with short or long term use, not as a sole cure but as drug free maybe albeit temporary improvement to lowered T levels.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    I understand totally, treat thecause not the symptom.
    But i was curious still if any men with low T had had benefits and results off Tboosting supplements or natural herbs with short or long term use, not as a sole cure but as drug free maybe albeit temporary improvement to lowered T levels.

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    Can't say I have low T or anything, but I'm over 35 so T levels are not where they use to be. I've had pretty good success with Tongkat Ali 200:1 Extract and D-Aspartic Acid (DAA). Definite increase in libido, muscle size and strength. Must cycle these things on a 2-on, 1-off cycle (e.g. 10 days on, 5 days off). I also liked Fadogia (see Fadogia 500 by iForce).
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastneutron View Post
    Can't say I have low T or anything, but I'm over 35 so T levels are not where they use to be. I've had pretty good success with Tongkat Ali 200:1 Extract and D-Aspartic Acid (DAA). Definite increase in libido, muscle size and strength. Must cycle these things on a 2-on, 1-off cycle (e.g. 10 days on, 5 days off). I also liked Fadogia (see Fadogia 500 by iForce).
    DAA seems to be the closes, but with out proper evaluation of specific neurological situation I will not recommend this due to its excitory side effect in certain cases. Especially people with anomalies I usually encounter
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    Thanks,
    i believe daa and tongkat are the 2 favourites for natural options both for individual reasons, and possibly fadogia and forskolin as alternatives.
    i am going to try daa and tongkat seperately
    cheers men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    DAA seems to be the closes, but with out proper evaluation of specific neurological situation I will not recommend this due to its excitory side effect in certain cases. Especially people with anomalies I usually encounter
    care to elaborate a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    care to elaborate a little
    It can cause high glutamate levels as well as ROS. I see this in alot of people dealing with GI and other related issues due to the alteratation in neurochemistry caused by endotoxins of specific pathogens.
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    Matrix you say that products OTC that work to boost test levels are not long term solutions, then why are you such a advocate and use HRT? Isn't medication usually a bandaide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    Matrix you say that products OTC that work to boost test levels are not long term solutions, then why are you such a advocate and use HRT? Isn't medication usually a bandaide?
    You use HRT when needed. I am not going to suggest a dr who has a patient is low testosterone to deprive them from quality of life who can barely function. We use it as bridge till we find out what else is wrong if there are not responding to clomid or HCG. As with many cases we start people on HRT and then over a few months start looking for what may be at the root cause then correct it from there. Every case is different. When a person is not contaminated by what they read on line then it makes it much easier to get them back to feeling good the quickest. Not every one wants to be thrown on HRT right away, they want to look for other reason to why before making that commitment. We give people the choices. This is why running a lot of blood work right off the bat can rule out many factors, saving months of time and wasted money for the person. For people on HRT we do the same thing. Once we have all the pieces of the puzzle in place and then feeling really good and time is right then we will try a restart which often are successful..
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    so you suggest clomid or HCG before TRT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    so you suggest clomid or HCG before TRT?
    Again each is case specific. If possible yes. If your nuts work then why shut them down?

    Prime example
    I am working with a guy late 40's been on HRT, HC for a few years, irregular HR's, hemochromatosis, blood thinning issues. He's now off HRT (no clomid) feeling better then ever, next step ramping him down off of HC after I rebalance his GI tract which will reduce the inflammation. He was told by medical professionals he be on HRT for life...GO figure. I make one wrong move he could possible go into cardiac arrest, Why we trust each other as we are both on the same plain of thinking. I got him off HRT (his choice), HC is next then betablockers, and finally blood thinners. Again when you look at the total picture, you get better therapeutic out come.
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    I have used with success AromX by AMS.
    Now I wouldn't say my test was low to begin with so the starting conditions do not seem to be simular, however, there was an increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoooter View Post
    I have used with success AromX by AMS.
    Now I wouldn't say my test was low to begin with so the starting conditions do not seem to be simular, however, there was an increase.
    Was it verified by lab testing..other wise it would be considered hear say..
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    Matrix what is HC? How do you rebalance the GI tract?
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    Rebalancing the GI tract just like anything else is individual and and art form. Its not just taking probiotics and being done. There is much much more to it then that. Rebalancing the GI tract is like rebuilding a ferrari engine. Majority of practioners end up with a volkswagen instead of a ferrari because they mis crucial steps. This whole sequence is what I am known for and have 6 years of research into designing programs for Dr's

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    Matrix what is HC? How do you rebalance the GI tract?
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    so then can I get some insight as to what the sequence is to rebalance?
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    Have to all.
    Detoxification and open.all channels
    Balance.liver pathways, identify genetic mutations
    remove the inflammation
    support enzymattic pathways (neuro endocrine immune system)

    Have to this before touching probiotics or failure rate is increased.

    Took me 5 years of 1000's hours of research net working with.top specialist in the field to get to where i am today.
    i.am not going to list step by step because if done improperly can injure.or.kill.some.one. I.am.not.going to even open.pandoras box.

    Imagine working on a super.high performance engine by reading the instruction book. Never having any mechanical classes. You would not know.where to begin and end up making matters 10x worse..
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Was it verified by lab testing..other wise it would be considered hear say..
    Yes, bloodwork was performed by Labcorp. before starting for the baseline values and again after thirty days of use ( 1 box) blood taken 1 day after last dose.
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