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fryzway

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I have been taking Aromasin 12.5mg/day for about 4 months to keep my e2 levels in check. I am on TRT which got raised from 100mg/wk to 160mg/wk shot 80mg on Mon and Thurs. The last blood test I had showed my e2 levels @ 25 on the 100mg/wk of Test Cyp. I have kept my dose of Aromasin the same but raised my T dose and am feeling lethargic again and bloated so I would like to go to 25mg/12.5mg rotation. Example 25mg/Mon 12.5mg/Tues 25mg/Wed etc...My only problem is my recent labs showed my HDL @ 25 supposed to be over 40. My Total cholesterol and LDL are both optimal but my Triglycerides are 197 supposed to be under 150. I am affraid the Aromasin is affecting my cholesterol but I know if I stop my e2 is going to shoot back up. Using Aromasin I brought it down from 109 to 25 and also dropped my Prolactin 10 points ! I am trying to lose 20-30lbs right now. I am 5ft 8" and currently 243 and about 18% BF and eat fast food at least twice a wk so that may also be what's affecting my cholesterol. I appreciate any thoughts on this.
 
can you post all you results bro? im interested to see shbg among others. you may want to try aromasin eod if thats even the cause of your hdl being low. could be other things like you said diet etc. i know its possible but thats crazy the amount of test you convert to e2 on such a low dose. im guessing you gotta lose some pounds bro, especially get that belly down
 
Ambulldog what's up bro ? You've always been solid about helping me thru the twist and turns of TRT. My doc told me he doubts it's my Test Cyp causing any problems. He doesn't believe in Ai's or anything to control E2 so he doesn't know I'm on the Aromasin but he also said he sees many skinny,"Healthy Looking" folks who have terrible cholesterol. He basically told me to keep exercising and stop eating the fast food and try lose some weight and we will re-check everything in 3 months. As far as the SHBG I didn't get it done this time just a CBC and TSH bc I just had my hormones ran less than 2 months ago and I can't find the copy of them I had here @ the house. Why do you mention SHBG anyway ? As far as the Aromasin I am going to give the Eod thing a go. I didn't take any today and am having hot flashes real bad. I am working on the weight my diet has become pretty awesome with the help of my wife. It will take some getting used to but I'll be ok. I'm down 4lbs already and I've noticed a marked improvement in my cardio work. I can go an hr with no problems @ all and have even upped my HIIT training.
 
I originally added the aromasin bc I thought it would make a huge diff in how I was feeling both mentally and physically and help my bloated look but it hasn't changed any of that @ all. My weight has stabilized but I'm wondering with my HDL so low if stopping the Aromasin all together and just letting my E2 go where it will if that would actually be healthier. Maybe even cutting back to 6.25mg/ed until my blood work in 3 months. I forgot to add this earlier. Any thought on this ?
 
fryzway said:
I originally added the aromasin bc I thought it would make a huge diff in how I was feeling both mentally and physically and help my bloated look but it hasn't changed any of that @ all. My weight has stabilized but I'm wondering with my HDL so low if stopping the Aromasin all together and just letting my E2 go where it will if that would actually be healthier. Maybe even cutting back to 6.25mg/ed until my blood work in 3 months. I forgot to add this earlier. Any thought on this ?
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I.d be looking at other factors out side hormones. And.get.proper blood testing done
 
Matrix what labs would you be referring to ? I've had cbc's, dhea-s shbg, lh, estradiol, lipids, dht, total and free-t, igf-1, tsh, free t3 and t4, fasting glucose, a1c, c-peptide, vit-d 25 hydroxy, ferritin, iron, hepatitis panels, h-pylori, celiac gene testing, etc...I really don't know if they have missed anything ! If you can think of something please let me know. What kind of other factors outside of hormones are you referring to ? I have also had a Pulmonary Function Test recently which was fine. I have also had chest x-ray's, Ekg's, Echocardiogram and an Mri of my Pituitary. I am on Celexa 40mg/day for anxiety/depression but that's about it aside from my Prevacid for my reflux/gerd.
 
fryzway said:
Matrix what labs would you be referring to ? I've had cbc's, dhea-s shbg, lh, estradiol, lipids, dht, total and free-t, igf-1, tsh, free t3 and t4, fasting glucose, a1c, c-peptide, vit-d 25 hydroxy, ferritin, iron, hepatitis panels, h-pylori, celiac gene testing, etc...I really don't know if they have missed anything ! If you can think of something please let me know. What kind of other factors outside of hormones are you referring to ? I have also had a Pulmonary Function Test recently which was fine. I have also had chest x-ray's, Ekg's, Echocardiogram and an Mri of my Pituitary. I am on Celexa 40mg/day for anxiety/depression but that's about it aside from my Prevacid for my reflux/gerd.
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1. Immune system
2. Neurotransmitters
3. GI tract imbalances
4. Liver imbalaces and pathways
5. Epigenetics
6. hidden infections

These are just some examples Dr's never looked at. When people have other factors in check, I work with the Dr's to dig deeper behind the scence at the cellular level.
 
fryzway said:
I originally added the aromasin bc I thought it would make a huge diff in how I was feeling both mentally and physically and help my bloated look but it hasn't changed any of that @ all. My weight has stabilized but I'm wondering with my HDL so low if stopping the Aromasin all together and just letting my E2 go where it will if that would actually be healthier. Maybe even cutting back to 6.25mg/ed until my blood work in 3 months. I forgot to add this earlier. Any thought on this ?
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3 things.
1) listen to what matrix has to say. he knows his stuff
2)i remember when you first got started on aromasin and you messaged me telling me how awesome you felt because your e2 was sky high before starting. in the mean time before you get your situation figred out. try adding in krill oil and absolutely add in niacin(not the flush free stuff either) as its proven to raise hdl very effectively
3)i only ask about shbg because for months when i was runing a higher "trt" dose i thought e2 was causing me some issues where i fet very sluggish. got tested and e2 was fine but shbg was up considerably
 
ambulldog, what did you do about your shbg ? My doctor told me to keep exercising, clean up my diet and try to lose weight before I add Niacin bc I mentioned that to him. He told me to wait and see how it looks in 3 months after doing the above mentioned and if not improved we can add the niacin. I did feel great @ 1st on the Aromasin I don't know if it was high hopes and placebo or what.
 
fryzway said:
ambulldog, what did you do about your shbg ? My doctor told me to keep exercising, clean up my diet and try to lose weight before I add Niacin bc I mentioned that to him. He told me to wait and see how it looks in 3 months after doing the above mentioned and if not improved we can add the niacin. I did feel great @ 1st on the Aromasin I don't know if it was high hopes and placebo or what.
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Let shbg fall into place unless you are on thyroid meds and have high e2 then it could increase dramatically. If not on thyroid meds then look for factors which may be influencing it and evaluate them.
 
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