Hey Matrix I saw that before you wrote that GI issues could be a major cause of low test levels, can you elaborate on that?
Bingo he hit in on the head.I am not Matrix but will chime in one the little I know.
Dysbiosis is potentially a serious risk factor for poor estrogen metabolism through the , it doesn't get excreted the way it should. In turn estrogen levels become higher and lower testosterone levels through aromatase.
Any gut issue that results in inflammation could cause a rise in CRP and cortisol, lowering testosterone levels via that pathway.
Use plant based enzyme would be first move with alot of glutamine to help stomach and intestinal mucosa to heal. There are herbs that do help healing of the wall. Low cortisol levels can prevent healing of mucosa. There is a specific protocol with individual modificaitons I use to help heal the GI tract.Out of interest Matrix, as you test for GI pathologies what is a typical protocol for restoring HCL levels if someone has a history of gastric ulcers- I assume they would need to heal 100% before supplementing with Betaine HCL (if you were going to)?
zinc carosine has been around for several years for peptic ulcers. Due to sulfur issues one needs to be careful of concentrated cabbage juice. When dealing with gut similar to autism you need to make sure proper liver pathways are balanced or it can cause major issues. This is why it can get very tricky and without looking at all factors people may get better but never get well. ..Sounds like a 4R/5R healing programme.
Have you had any success with cabbage juice following old research from Dr Cheney? Zinc-carnosine supplements seem to be taking off despite success rates being much lower than those in Cheney's studies.
Reason cabbage help is probably due to sulfur in it. MSM may be compatible :think:Have you tried cabbage juice to compare it to vitamin U + glutamine supplementation?
I looked around to find the amount of vitamin U in a standard white cabbage but couldn't find it. The juice has really helped me from a lot of ulcerative tissue but if the capsule form has the same effect it would be easier to continue with as the original studies called for .5 pint QID if I remember correctly.
I am located in near conshohocken PA or as women would better know near the plaza. USA second largest mall..:240:makes alot of sense. I never experienced low hormonal levels until I started a prescribed prilosec regimen for 5 years!! I actually started to experience prostate issues while on the prilosec. 5 years ago I went away on vacation for a few days and forgot the prilosec. Believe it or not my symptoms improved dramatically in about 3 days. Right then and there I stopped proton pump inhibitors. I mentioned this to GI doc and he said it did not make sense. At one time I got a biopsy and tested positive for H PYLORI at which point I took horse pills for. I strongly believe in the correlation between the prilosec causing me to get prostate issues (prostatitis) which in turn lowered my high normal test levels to low normal. I have seen a few urologist in my area and at the University of Penn who pretty much just wrote me off and want to prescribe anti DHT meds. I won't use them. 1 URO prescribed test for me but was only giving me 1 shot a month. I had to go through a anti aging clinic just to feel normal again. I am glad I can find answers here. Thanks guys!!!!
Probably more like atrophic gastritis which is no fun becauSe parietal cell are probably damaged resulting in malabsorption of many nutrients. Dealing with u penn they are going to look at structure vs function and underlying cauSe.no ulcers.
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