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    Can someone find me a reliable source that states a young man should have a very high testosterone level.I keep hearin people say that a young man should be atleast 700 ng/dl and up which is bs.Actin like they know what the **** their talkin bout.What are the benefits of havin that high of a level besides building muscle and a very high sex drive.I thought as is the case with other hormones, the best benefits with the fewest side effects are usually found in the middle range, approximately the 400-600 ng/dl range for testosterone, with problems occurring at either extreme of the spectrum.I think people just like havin that high of a number for braggin rights.And if yours aren't that high they put you down so they can feel good for havin that high a level.Actually as per some clinical reports their is a peaking of T level typically during 14 to 16 years of puberty and by 20 years it settles down to the normal adult levels and more or less remain at this level for up to 50 years,then starts slowly falling up to 70 years.

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    Was intrigued by the question so I did some research...somebody with more hands on knowledge will prob come along and give u a more sound response but I like to take these moments to research and learn something myself

    http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ne-levels.html
    That's a chart were although it doesn't show 21 yr olds, the 25 range does have above 600
    I liked this because underneath the charts it gives a person tips on aproaching a stubborn doc with any issue a person may feel they have.

    Natural Testosterone Level Chart
    I also found that thread from right here on the subject, but honestly I haven't read through it
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    Can someone help me with this.
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    well im 42 and my levels stay between 900-1300 and it feels good. i would never go down to 400 again. i was 300 b4 going on trt. i think 600 is not a bad number for someone out of their teens but for a teen thats be considered low. not clinically low of course
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    After examing several 1000's blood tests from dr's patients and clients, the average levels range from 450-600 TT shbg 15-25 e2 15-20. These levels are fine provided the thyroid , adrenal, gh levels are in healthy ranges as well. Do not get caught up in the number game, but rather symptoms. If a person is in the <450 range TT then one needs to look at other factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    After examing several 1000's blood tests from dr's patients and clients, the average levels range from 450-600 TT shbg 15-25 e2 15-20. These levels are fine provided the thyroid , adrenal, gh levels are in healthy ranges as well. Do not get caught up in the number game, but rather symptoms. If a person is in the <450 range TT then one needs to look at other factors.
    Yea most people that I see post about their T-Level online or people that I know.Are mostly in the 400-600 range naturally.Their really isn't any benefits in having a very high testosterone level besides building muscle.Plus I hear having a really high T-Level increase the risk of having prostate cancer.Or causes growth of existing prostate cancer.
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    I think like anything else, at some point you reach diminishing returns. Is 1300 better than 1100? Or 1000? Or 900? I personally feel better closer to 1000 than let's say 775. But, beyond that who knows.....
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    If other factors need to be evaluated such as thyroid and adenals then people do not need as much t to feel better
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4evathrowed View Post
    Yea most people that I see post about their T-Level online or people that I know.Are mostly in the 400-600 range naturally.Their really isn't any benefits in having a very high testosterone level besides building muscle.Plus I hear having a really high T-Level increase the risk of having prostate cancer.Or causes growth of existing prostate cancer.
    if you have cancer cells in the prostate testosterone will affect them Thats wwhy men who undergo test replacement therapy have theirs checked before treatment Test will not cause cancer as far as i am aware if the prostate is healthy, otherwise teenage males would suffer .
    The disease is mostly one for the older generation ie approx 50 upwards.
    As with all cancers , lifestyle , nutrition , genetics all play a part in developing cancer.

    People with high test are usually acheivers, academically or physically because it brings drive and energy.

    Enjoy this phase of your life while you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    if you have cancer cells in the prostate testosterone will affect them Thats wwhy men who undergo test replacement therapy have theirs checked before treatment Test will not cause cancer as far as i am aware if the prostate is healthy, otherwise teenage males would suffer .
    The disease is mostly one for the older generation ie approx 50 upwards.
    As with all cancers , lifestyle , nutrition , genetics all play a part in developing cancer.

    People with high test are usually acheivers, academically or physically because it brings drive and energy.

    Enjoy this phase of your life while you can.
    If you are pre genetically exposed light chance, but higher testosterone does not mean that you are taking full advanatage of it.

    Higher testosterone in proper balance with estrodial will protect your prostate from issue. High testosteorne >800-900 I would suspect potential hyper thyroid needs to be ruled out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    If you are pre genetically exposed light chance, but higher testosterone does not mean that you are taking full advanatage of it.

    Higher testosterone in proper balance with estrodial will protect your prostate from issue. High testosteorne >800-900 I would suspect potential hyper thyroid needs to be ruled out.
    are you saying estradiol protects the prostate? i always thought it was a contributing factor to the cancer as estrogen rises and test declines in later life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    are you saying estradiol protects the prostate? i always thought it was a contributing factor to the cancer as estrogen rises and test declines in later life?
    Its all about balance. I have some clients that have e2 issues with normal e2, but estrogen metabolism is off. I examine estrogen metabolism from start to finish. Yes in proper balance e2 is protective for prostate even in cancerous stages. Once the imbalance is found in the estrogen metabolism through proper evaluation then majority of people do not need AI. I have been off AI for over 5 months and e2 is stable as can be since implementing the proper steps. I would estimate about 70-80% of people on TRT do not need an AI when the dr's patient is properly evaluated and treated. My job is to find what is out of balance then develope a plan to correct it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16006886
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Its all about balance. I have some clients that have e2 issues with normal e2, but estrogen metabolism is off. I examine estrogen metabolism from start to finish. Yes in proper balance e2 is protective for prostate even in cancerous stages. Once the imbalance is found in the estrogen metabolism through proper evaluation then majority of people do not need AI. I have been off AI for over 5 months and e2 is stable as can be since implementing the proper steps. I would estimate about 70-80% of people on TRT do not need an AI when the dr's patient is properly evaluated and treated. My job is to find what is out of balance then develope a plan to correct it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16006886
    i also am on trt i just wonder now if i am doing the right thing by taking indole-3-carbinol . i appreciate that this isnt an AI but would welcome your comments
    tks.
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    With over 75% of people with impaire digestion ic3 is not best choice
    dim is better because no stomach acids are needed to activate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    With over 75% of people with impaire digestion ic3 is not best choice
    dim is better because no stomach acids are needed to activate it.
    thanks
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