Lab Results, Need Help Please
- 12-24-2010, 12:51 AM
- 12-24-2010, 01:04 AM
- 12-24-2010, 04:01 AM
vitamin d not seen, probably low
tsh>2 hypothyroid, need more indepth numbers, low body temperature, not ****ting every day, cold
dhea high, cortisol too low probably, not seen on test, adrenal fatigue
estradiol low which is good, should have no ED? other e2 test high, strange
fatigue.. libido less, wood issues?
12-24-2010, 07:37 AM
See next to Bilirubin where it says "High" -- this means that the results in question are out of range. These ranges exist for a reason and docs generally do not look at anything that is within range because if it is "in range" then it is normal. If you make up arbitrary ranges then you can say anything is in or out of range and even make up diseases if you want.
Your Bilirubin is high which can indicate liver issues.
Your LDL is high. There is some debate right now about where levels should be set -- recently the limit was set at 100 (it used to be 135). But according to this cutoff you are very slightly high.
You Iron binding capacity is low and correspondingly your iron saturation is high which suggests iron overload
Your DHEA is low - generally docs are only concerned about high levels but if you have adrenal suppression secondary to steroid use, then DHEA could be low. Adrenal fatigue is not a recognized condition but adrenal suppression is and can be brought on through the use of corticosteroids, AAS, and some supplements
Your estradiol levels are normal
Your test levels are normal but you didn't have free test measured
Your LH levels are normal.
According to this the only thing that is of concern is the bilirubin measurement. Your other liver function tests are normal so it is not clear what is causing it from these tests.
12-24-2010, 12:26 PM
Havent checked body temp, could be low though, my feet are always freezing. Dont shyt everyday.
Adrenal fatigue is what others have told me, and I fit the bill for. I have trouble getting up in the morning. (have read this in cortisol related symptoms lists)
I dont sweat much, I could go days without showering and not really smell.
I have no libido, I have regular sex but dont ever really crave it.
Have erection issues, get hard but cant stay hard if like switching positions,etc.
I have been measured at 11% bodyfat and have visible upper abs, but still hold fat around my midsection
Tried the Iris test for adrenals, and my pupils flutter with the light shined in them.
My memory is foggy as hell. I bartend and sometimes i forget what people ordered by the time i get back to the bottles.
Feel fatigued at times
Blood pressure is in normal range
Very irritable and sensitive to certain situations
12-24-2010, 12:28 PM
Never taken AAS, but took some supplements that ive had suspicions about....
Would supplementing DHEA be an option? I dont have insurance and am not working with a medical professional.
12-24-2010, 04:05 PM
What's your training schedule like ... and do you smoke?
12-24-2010, 06:44 PM
12-24-2010, 06:56 PM
look i dont care what the other guy says
you need to get on some isocort, hc or pregnenolone for adrenal support
hell just buy an adrenal glandular and see if that helps, then you know it's indeed low cortisol
vitamin d is major important
you should also supplement zinc picolinate 50 mg at night, and some b6 for better sleep/neurotransmitter production
5-htp 50 mg before bed to sleep better also a good idea
vitamin d must be drops which are bio available, bio d mulsion forte by biotics is good if you're low
concentrate on treating adrenals for now
12-24-2010, 11:05 PM
whats an adrenal glandular?
will research what hc and isocort are
12-26-2010, 12:58 PM
12-26-2010, 05:36 PM
12-27-2010, 01:08 AM
12-27-2010, 05:21 AM
the othery guy on the other board is the real deal, preg seems to be the way to go.. preferably transdermal
if not working for you you can try a glandular, it's a adrenal gland from a cow and put into a pill, can be sold OTC because there may be no hormones in it, see this one:
This is isocort:
This is also a glandular, but many ppl state there is indeed 2.5 mg cortisol in each pellet, although they can not mention this on the bottle, otherwise it can't be sold OTC.
Then we have hydrocortisone, which is a prescription med and is the real deal. If above two don't work you can trial HC.
Try a bottle of the glandular first (18 bucks) and then isocort (also cheap) if it doesn't work ask for hc from your doc.
12-27-2010, 09:21 AM
12-27-2010, 10:12 AM
of course he needs testing for cortisol
can you provide me with some feedback on the glandular part? in my case it simply is not true.. i am a high NE person and glandulars (reset ad) made me feel good.. hc was better but still no adverse effect at all from glandulars
so please post the relevant study for making these claims, so largeitalian can have the right info, before telling others not to just read and believe anything online
12-27-2010, 10:15 AM
The only person you should listen to is The Matrix here. The man has helped quite a few people and knows his hormonal cascades.
The Historic PES Legend
12-27-2010, 10:28 AM
12-27-2010, 10:44 AM
hcg i don't know.. you're right in that it depletes cortisol, but it also does have the nice advantage of giving you somewhat a set of balls.. the e2 chase is not worth it i certainly say so, but somehow it gives me a nice libido boost.. perhaps because it boosts prog which i am superlow in
i think you mean be careful with glandulars, in that you only take adrenal cortex.. whole adrenal glandular may contain adrenaline and make you really wired
i hope italianguy does take my comment on glandulars serious and if he decides to buy a glandular, he will buy one which specifically states "adrenal cortex" instead of whole adrenal glandular
how are your guys doing with no more cortef and preg cream? i know of course your client with the same issues as me, but what other people have you seen good results in on transdermal preg?
12-27-2010, 11:05 AM
1. First indentify the imbalance !! this may take some time, but is necessary
2. Once the problem is indentified then resolve it to best of ones ability by what ever means
3. Support other hormonal pathways with pregenonlone and adapatagens
4. if testosterone is low clomid challenge
5. If thyroid is deficient examine Why not just give thyroid hormone this early in.
NOrmally you give the building blocks of hormones, nutritional support, lifestyle changes, adaptogens, ect a good 8-12 weeks to see if you get a response. After 8-12 weeks no response then adding alittle cortef would be the next step. Medical professional should not let the patient go longer then 3-4 months with out medical intervention. Both in patients and clients I keep my word on this because I do not want to see them suffer if they have access to medical intervention. One needs to do everything possible to balance the body by reducing the stressors and feeding the body what it lacks. The trick is find the cause and knowing what is low which took years of clincal and personal expereince to finally isolate a person potential problem
12-27-2010, 04:45 PM
so you guys are saying 1st step would be to get tested?
I dont have insurance, so all testing will be paid out of pocket. Is the 4x saliva cortisol test the way to go to test adrenal function?
12-27-2010, 09:15 PM
yes google canary hormones and its the one for $109.
12-28-2010, 04:12 PM
just so i dont order wrong one, this one?
w w w .canaryclub.org/diurnal-cortisol-4x-zrt-stress-hormone-test-kit-c1-c2-c3-c4.html
12-28-2010, 04:32 PM
Similar Forum Threads
- By Rhysboi in forum SupplementsReplies: 4Last Post: 03-14-2010, 04:01 AM
- By tat2snlifting in forum AnabolicsReplies: 10Last Post: 11-25-2009, 01:20 PM
- By mikeyboyeee in forum Male Anti-Aging MedicineReplies: 15Last Post: 08-12-2009, 09:22 AM
- By ricker1 in forum SupplementsReplies: 14Last Post: 12-10-2004, 12:36 PM
- By bullfx in forum IGF-1/GHReplies: 15Last Post: 05-27-2004, 11:50 PM