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    Long story short, im 22 years old. I did a cycle of Test at 500mg 3 years ago. Ever since that cycle I have been having some problem down there, I don't get fully hard in the morning like I used to. And even when I masturbate I don't get fully hard. Ive tried everything from Letro, Nolva, HCG, you name it.. Its funny though it used to be worse until I tried Inhibit E, which worked great.

    Free Test - 14.9 Range - 9-30

    Total Test -467 - Range 240-950

    Estrodiol - 45 - Range 10-45

    TSH - 1.6 Range - 0.27-4.20

    T3 - 111- Range - 80-200

    FSH - 0.4

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    Worked great while you take it or works great as in fixed your problem?

    Good stuff either way man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Worked great while you take it or works great as in fixed your problem?

    Good stuff either way man.
    It fixed my problem basically. I still have problems down there, after I feel more energetic and not as slumpy....For a 22 year old how do my levels look to everyone>
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    Quote Originally Posted by PTRC View Post
    Long story short, im 22 years old. I did a cycle of Test at 500mg 3 years ago. Ever since that cycle I have been having some problem down there, I don't get fully hard in the morning like I used to. And even when I masturbate I don't get fully hard. Ive tried everything from Letro, Nolva, HCG, you name it.. Its funny though it used to be worse until I tried Inhibit E, which worked great.

    Free Test - 14.9 Range - 9-30

    Total Test -467 - Range 240-950

    Estrodiol - 45 - Range 10-45

    TSH - 1.6 Range - 0.27-4.20

    T3 - 111- Range - 80-200

    FSH - 0.4
    ur estros real high bro u sure ur letro was real? have u tried arimidex or arom
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    Yea I noticed that too.. Actually im on the letro right now and its working great...Letro and all of AI's ive came to notice only work temp.
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    x2 on the estradiol lower it to the sweet spot and it will raise your test and fix and "problems down there". You should also investigate your thyroid further your tsh is low with your t3 and you need to know your t4. Also fsh is suspect might want to check your lh.
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    Need to lower your E2 which should raise your test value. Your FSH looks low, but you didn't post the ranges for your labs. Might want to also get a LH test. If that is low, you may be secondary.
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    If you are still having problems, look at increasing your free T. The range is not age adjusted and you are barely out of the bottom quartile. That could be causing your problems. I have a higher test level than yours but with slightly lower free testosterone (it's 12ng/dl 9-30) and am experiencing bad low testosterone symptoms. Good luck.
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    Who do u suggest I see first, an endo or a urologist?
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    Not an endo!
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    Endos are a complete waste of time. You would need extremely low levels for them to treat you. And then the treatment will be be less than optimal (definitely no hcg and testosterone will not be allowed to elevate past mid range).

    Some urologists are a bit more open minded. I would try one of them first and point out your low normal free test and high estradiol.


    If the urologist doesn't work, you have three options:

    1) find a DO general practitioner and see if they are willing to experiment to find a solution

    2) find a local anti aging clinic that accepts insurance. There are a few of them around.

    3) use one of the online trt businesses; search around on the various bodybuilding forums and you will run into a couple of these type of businesses. You will be guaranteed access to most of the drugs you want, but will have minimal supervision.

    It is a long road ahead if you want answers to your problem. Just don't give up. I have seen 3 endos, 2 gp's, and am just now finally getting some help. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phyviti View Post
    Endos are a complete waste of time. You would need extremely low levels for them to treat you. And then the treatment will be be less than optimal (definitely no hcg and testosterone will not be allowed to elevate past mid range).

    Some urologists are a bit more open minded. I would try one of them first and point out your low normal free test and high estradiol.


    If the urologist doesn't work, you have three options:

    1) find a DO general practitioner and see if they are willing to experiment to find a solution

    2) find a local anti aging clinic that accepts insurance. There are a few of them around.

    3) use one of the online trt businesses; search around on the various bodybuilding forums and you will run into a couple of these type of businesses. You will be guaranteed access to most of the drugs you want, but will have minimal supervision.

    It is a long road ahead if you want answers to your problem. Just don't give up. I have seen 3 endos, 2 gp's, and am just now finally getting some help. Good luck.
    Im 22 man. The last thing I want to do is be on TRT for the rest of my life..I did one cycle, wtf man, makes no sense. Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it.
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    Don't jump on TRT until you have more tests. You need to confirm your results from your first test. You also need to have more thyroid, adrenal, LH, and Vit D test. Look at other factors that could be causing your low test before jumping on TRT at 22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PTRC View Post
    Im 22 man. The last thing I want to do is be on TRT for the rest of my life..I did one cycle, wtf man, makes no sense. Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it.
    I'm just a few years older than you myself. I understand your apprehension about being on medication long term. But something is clearly wrong with your endocrine system. Your E2 to free test ratio is really bad. Like the other guys said before, if you haven't had your thyroid and adrenals tested, you really need to do that.

    If you are impatient and want to try something quick, you could try a small dose of letrozole or anastrozole.You can order them online without a prescription. In theory, they should lower your estrogen levels and increase your free testosterone. If it works, then you a short term fix.
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    The femara and hcg works for me. Lost weight , look great, preexcisting gyno lumps gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PTRC View Post
    Im 22 man. The last thing I want to do is be on TRT for the rest of my life..I did one cycle, wtf man, makes no sense. Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it.
    get vitamin d levels checked.. 10.000 ius a day upped my total test levels 100-200 points

    perhaps you have low thyroid function (measure your temperature daily every three hours starting in the morning, low temps is low thyroid function)

    buy adrenal saliva cortisol 4x test, this will show if you are low on adrenal output

    low thyroid function means more estrogens.. probably also gut issues where your liver can't get rid of the estrogens well

    get total t3, total t4, ft3, ft4, vitamin d to start with and measure temp/buy adrenal test
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    TSH - 1.16 - Range 0.27-4.20

    Thyroxine - 5.9 - Range 4.6-12.0

    T Uptake - 1.00 . Range - 0.80-1.30

    T Uptake% - 31. -Range-24-39

    Free Thyroxin Index%- 1.8 - Range 1.4-4.8

    Thyroxine -Free - 1.2 - Range 0.9-1.8

    T3 - 111 Range - 80-200

    Free thyroxine Index - 5.9 - 4.6-15.4

    FSH - 0.4 - Range - 3.5-12.5


    LH - 4.3 - Range - (Follicular) - 2.4-12.6 (Male) -1.7 - 8.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by PTRC View Post
    TSH - 1.16 - Range 0.27-4.20

    Thyroxine - 5.9 - Range 4.6-12.0

    T Uptake - 1.00 . Range - 0.80-1.30

    T Uptake% - 31. -Range-24-39

    Free Thyroxin Index%- 1.8 - Range 1.4-4.8

    Thyroxine -Free - 1.2 - Range 0.9-1.8

    T3 - 111 Range - 80-200

    Free thyroxine Index - 5.9 - 4.6-15.4

    FSH - 0.4 - Range - 3.5-12.5


    LH - 4.3 - Range - (Follicular) - 2.4-12.6 (Male) -1.7 - 8.6
    thanks

    t3 looks just above the 80 and should be higher.. also t4 is low and ft4 is also low.. please do the temperature test i described coming days and see if you are lower than a normal temperature

    that warrants further investigation of adrenals.. if they are screwed you need support.. if not, you need thyroid support.. please also get free t3 tested

    and vitamin d very important

    another biggie: iodine! i forgot this one but please try to get a urine iodine test to see your levels.. adding in iodine can help manufacture thyroid hormones
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    there are so many folks taking all types of gear but they forget the multi Viamin Mineral each day. I take two Centrums and my Lab tests are right on the money and it is cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cumkwakka View Post
    thanks

    t3 looks just above the 80 and should be higher.. also t4 is low and ft4 is also low.. please do the temperature test i described coming days and see if you are lower than a normal temperature

    that warrants further investigation of adrenals.. if they are screwed you need support.. if not, you need thyroid support.. please also get free t3 tested

    and vitamin d very important

    another biggie: iodine! i forgot this one but please try to get a urine iodine test to see your levels.. adding in iodine can help manufacture thyroid hormones
    Thank You very much for your help, I appreciate it.
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    Do you guys have any suggestions of libido boosting products that work permanently? Maybe a free test boosting supp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PTRC View Post
    Do you guys have any suggestions of libido boosting products that work permanently? Maybe a free test boosting supp?
    Get proper blood test done for thyroid, adrenal and other factors to see where the source of your problem lies and do not use supplements over the counter for this type of thing because it can make you worse off then you are . If you need a good HRT dr pm me and be glad to give a referal who may take your insurance.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    Get proper blood test done for thyroid, adrenal and other factors to see where the source of your problem lies and do not use supplements over the counter for this type of thing because it can make you worse off then you are . If you need a good HRT dr pm me and be glad to give a referal who may take your insurance.
    Proper blood test done for thyroid???
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    Free Test - 14.9 Range - 9-30
    Total Test -467 - Range 240-950
    Estrodiol - 45 - Range 10-45
    FSH - 0.4 - Range - 3.5-12.5
    LH - 4.3 - Range - (Follicular) - 2.4-12.6 (Male) -1.7 - 8.6
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    TSH - 1.16 - Range 0.27-4.20
    Thyroxine - 5.9 - Range 4.6-12.0
    Thyroxine -Free - 1.2 - Range 0.9-1.8
    T3 - 111 Range - 80-200
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    Long story short, im 22 years old. I did a cycle of Test at 500mg 3 years ago.

    Im 22 man. The last thing I want to do is be on TRT for the rest of my life..I did one cycle, wtf man, makes no sense. Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it.

    Who do u suggest I see first, an endo or a urologist?
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    You have some problem with pituitary. LH-low, FSH-non-existent
    I doubt that it have to do with your 500mg 3 years ago.
    Ask for pituitary MRI

    You have a high Estradiol
    You have a problem with thyroid, low T3

    In the mean time get Lugol's solution.
    First 2fl oz vial, dropperfull EOD EveryotherDay, should last 9-12 months
    Next vials, 2 dropperful/week

    also
    5 drops/day
    Biotic Research Bio-D-Mulsion Forte, 1drop=2000iu Vit D ($15.20)
    http://store.agoodvitamin.com/birebiod1oz.html

    ============================== ===
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    You need following tests:
    After you have all of them, post them here:

    Pituitary MRI

    Spectracell.com
    Spectracell-5000, all micronutrients, lipids and all reports

    From Genova Diagnostics, Fatty Acids Analysis and Hair Analysis.

    From LabCorp, this blood test:

    1 --------- Comprehensive Metabolic Panel w/EGFR
    2 --------- CBC w/ diff/PLT
    3 --------- VAP TM Cholesterol Test
    4 --------- Selenium, Whole Blood
    5 --------- Copper, serum
    6 --------- Zinc
    7 --------- Magnesium, Serum
    8 --------- C-Reactive Protein (CRP), Highly Sensitive, CSF
    9 --------- Fibrinogen
    10 --------- Homocysteine, cardio
    11 --------- Lipoprotein (A) Lp(A)
    12 --------- Iron and Iron Binding Capacity
    13 --------- Iron, Total
    14 --------- Ferritin
    15 --------- Transferrin
    16 --------- Folate, RBC & Hematocrit
    17 --------- Hemoglobin A1c
    18 --------- Hemoglobin, Plasma
    19 --------- VITAMIN A, E, B3, B12
    20 --------- Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy
    21 --------- T3, Total
    22 --------- T4, Total
    23 --------- T3, Free
    24 --------- T4,Free
    25 --------- T3, Reverse
    26 --------- Ultrasensitive TSH
    27 --------- Thyroid Peroxidase and Thyroglobulin Antibodies
    28 --------- Thyroglobulin
    29 --------- Thyroxine-binding globulin
    30 --------- Insulin, serum
    31 --------- IGF Binding protein-3
    32 --------- IGF-1
    33 --------- DHEA Sulfate
    34 --------- Aldosterone
    35 --------- Renin Activity, Plasma
    36 --------- ACTH, Plasma
    37 --------- Cortisol Binding Globulin (Transcortin)
    38 --------- 8AM/4PM/10PM---Cortisol, Free and Total
    39 --------- Prolactin
    40 --------- Progesterone
    41 --------- Pregnenolone
    42 --------- Androstenedione
    43 --------- Estradiol, sensitive 140244 (3-70)
    44 --------- Estrone, Serum
    45 --------- Total Testosterone
    46 --------- SHBG
    47 --------- Albumin
    48 --------- Dihydrotestosterone
    49 --------- 3a-Androstanediol Glucuronide
    50 --------- Ceruloplasmin
    51 --------- Coenzyme Q10
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    244.9 ----- 257.2 ----- 780.79
    250.00 ----- 272.4 ----- 788.41
    250.01 ----- 601.9 ----- 253.3
    255.4 ----- 780.4 ----- 255.8
    783.9 -----
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    Wow thank you man, I appreciate that.
    The only thing I disagree with is the fact the test didnt screw me up.. I ONLY started having these problems after then testosterone. I was able to get it up great, have a high as hell sex drive. I lost fat like no other. Everything was great, then I did the test and everything went to sh*t.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    Free Test - 14.9 Range - 9-30
    Total Test -467 - Range 240-950
    Estrodiol - 45 - Range 10-45
    FSH - 0.4 - Range - 3.5-12.5
    LH - 4.3 - Range - (Follicular) - 2.4-12.6 (Male) -1.7 - 8.6
    ----------
    TSH - 1.16 - Range 0.27-4.20
    Thyroxine - 5.9 - Range 4.6-12.0
    Thyroxine -Free - 1.2 - Range 0.9-1.8
    T3 - 111 Range - 80-200
    ---------

    Long story short, im 22 years old. I did a cycle of Test at 500mg 3 years ago.

    Im 22 man. The last thing I want to do is be on TRT for the rest of my life..I did one cycle, wtf man, makes no sense. Thanks for your help though, I appreciate it.

    Who do u suggest I see first, an endo or a urologist?
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    You have some problem with pituitary. LH-low, FSH-non-existent
    I doubt that it have to do with your 500mg 3 years ago.
    Ask for pituitary MRI

    You have a high Estradiol
    You have a problem with thyroid, low T3

    In the mean time get Lugol's solution.
    First 2fl oz vial, dropperfull EOD EveryotherDay, should last 9-12 months
    Next vials, 2 dropperful/week

    also
    5 drops/day
    Biotic Research Bio-D-Mulsion Forte, 1drop=2000iu Vit D ($15.20)


    ============================== ===
    ============================== ===
    You need following tests:
    After you have all of them, post them here:

    Pituitary MRI

    Spectracell.com
    Spectracell-5000, all micronutrients, lipids and all reports

    From Genova Diagnostics, Fatty Acids Analysis and Hair Analysis.

    From LabCorp, this blood test:

    1 --------- Comprehensive Metabolic Panel w/EGFR
    2 --------- CBC w/ diff/PLT
    3 --------- VAP TM Cholesterol Test
    4 --------- Selenium, Whole Blood
    5 --------- Copper, serum
    6 --------- Zinc
    7 --------- Magnesium, Serum
    8 --------- C-Reactive Protein (CRP), Highly Sensitive, CSF
    9 --------- Fibrinogen
    10 --------- Homocysteine, cardio
    11 --------- Lipoprotein (A) Lp(A)
    12 --------- Iron and Iron Binding Capacity
    13 --------- Iron, Total
    14 --------- Ferritin
    15 --------- Transferrin
    16 --------- Folate, RBC & Hematocrit
    17 --------- Hemoglobin A1c
    18 --------- Hemoglobin, Plasma
    19 --------- VITAMIN A, E, B3, B12
    20 --------- Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy
    21 --------- T3, Total
    22 --------- T4, Total
    23 --------- T3, Free
    24 --------- T4,Free
    25 --------- T3, Reverse
    26 --------- Ultrasensitive TSH
    27 --------- Thyroid Peroxidase and Thyroglobulin Antibodies
    28 --------- Thyroglobulin
    29 --------- Thyroxine-binding globulin
    30 --------- Insulin, serum
    31 --------- IGF Binding protein-3
    32 --------- IGF-1
    33 --------- DHEA Sulfate
    34 --------- Aldosterone
    35 --------- Renin Activity, Plasma
    36 --------- ACTH, Plasma
    37 --------- Cortisol Binding Globulin (Transcortin)
    38 --------- 8AM/4PM/10PM---Cortisol, Free and Total
    39 --------- Prolactin
    40 --------- Progesterone
    41 --------- Pregnenolone
    42 --------- Androstenedione
    43 --------- Estradiol, sensitive 140244 (3-70)
    44 --------- Estrone, Serum
    45 --------- Total Testosterone
    46 --------- SHBG
    47 --------- Albumin
    48 --------- Dihydrotestosterone
    49 --------- 3a-Androstanediol Glucuronide
    50 --------- Ceruloplasmin
    51 --------- Coenzyme Q10
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    244.9 ----- 257.2 ----- 780.79
    250.00 ----- 272.4 ----- 788.41
    250.01 ----- 601.9 ----- 253.3
    255.4 ----- 780.4 ----- 255.8
    783.9 -----
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    in regards of endo or urologist I say it just depends on the doctor, not necessarily what type of doctor he is. right now, the most help i've gotten with my condition was from an endo and i'm currently seeing him now.
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