View Poll Results: Should I be on HCG?

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    HRT and HCG


    I am new here. Love this site!!

    I am on hormone replacement therapy.
    I take injectable testosterone every week.
    I will be doing this for the rest of my life.

    I have a person telling me I should be on HCG full time along with the testosterone so I don't ruin my pituitary gland.
    Others are telling me I only need that if I want to have children later on and/or if I want my balls to look good :^))

    I respect both points of view, so I am torn as to which way to go.

    I am 47
    Had a vasectomy

    I can see there are some very well informed people here and thought someone might be able to help me get off the fence on this.

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    i am interested in this as well

    could you get away with doing test on sunday once a week (100 mg) for example and do hcg on wednesday once a week, totaling twice a week?

    i would hate doing this stuff >2 times a week
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    Dont use HCG "full time" as your friend suggested.

    Im using it cosmetically just to keep my sac in check. im permanently "ON" cycle btw. No sure what your goals are here...Is it just to look good for the wife?

    I use it every 4-5 wks. 5000iu split into 2-4 shots. If i use the solution it came with, i'll split it into 2 shots. If i use BAC water, i can split it into 4 shots. Again, its just to keep my Boys full and dangly. I can care less about more kids at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetSwoll View Post
    Dont use HCG "full time" as your friend suggested.

    Im using it cosmetically just to keep my sac in check. im permanently "ON" cycle btw. No sure what your goals are here...Is it just to look good for the wife?

    I use it every 4-5 wks. 5000iu split into 2-4 shots. If i use the solution it came with, i'll split it into 2 shots. If i use BAC water, i can split it into 4 shots. Again, its just to keep my Boys full and dangly. I can care less about more kids at this point.
    I've been using HCG alone for over three years, and maintain T levels between 900 and 1000.

    This survey is not realistic. Everyone responds differently to HCG. It depends on the condition of your balls. If they still function, and the problem lies in you HPTA (LH secretion) it works well. In other words, it's an option for those with secondary hypogonadism. I have done both exogenous T and HCG therapies. My preference is HCG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ideatrade View Post
    I am new here. Love this site!!

    I am on hormone replacement therapy.
    I take injectable testosterone every week.
    I will be doing this for the rest of my life.

    I have a person telling me I should be on HCG full time along with the testosterone so I don't ruin my pituitary gland.
    Others are telling me I only need that if I want to have children later on and/or if I want my balls to look good :^))

    I respect both points of view, so I am torn as to which way to go.

    I am 47
    Had a vasectomy

    I can see there are some very well informed people here and thought someone might be able to help me get off the fence on this.
    I don't think your vasectomy is relevant. I've had one for 11 years, and didn't notice a drop in testosterone for the first five or six.
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    To properly evaluate subject question more information is required.
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    Other than sperm and testosterone

    what is produced by working testicles?


    Some claim all kind of stuff.

    I would like to see only claims supported by research, post link to research with any claims.
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    I am being told the HCG is not just for the testicles. Not using it causes your pituitary gland to shut down if you are on test full time, and that is the main reason for taking it. I could care less how big my balls are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ideatrade View Post
    I am being told the HCG is not just for the testicles. Not using it causes your pituitary gland to shut down if you are on test full time.
    who told you this? is there any literature to back this up? it sounds interesting but is it factual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetSwoll View Post
    who told you this? is there any literature to back this up? it sounds interesting but is it factual?
    That is why I am here. Trying to find someone to confirm this. My HRT specialist, says all the doctors they work with require HCG for and injectable testosterone regiment. I consult with a second specialist for a second opinion on most things. The other one is telling me that I don't need it if I have no intention of having children in the future.

    This is why I am confused and trying to get some input.
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    Read about Dr. Crisler's (SWALE) rationale and protocol here. allthingsmale.com/word_docs/HCGupdate.doc
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    HCG does NOT, thats right, it does NOT, keep your pituitary functioning.

    HCG keeps only your nuts functioning, making up for the lack of the pituitary hormone LH.

    Clomid/Toremifene/Nolva....SERMS help with pituitary function, not HCG. Which is why people recommend HCG on-cycle, and immediately dropping it and starting a SERM during PCT.



    I can't see a reason not to use HCG, unless you can't afford it, or can't figure out how to deal with the E2 increase. HCG will keep your leydig cells alive in your testicles which will help to preserve testicular ability. This doesn't mean it will keep you fertile, because HCG only replaces LH, not the FSH. However, use of HCG should save you some trouble if you decide for some reason to go off TRT.

    Also, I may be wrong, but wouldn't the addition of HCG allow you to have even higher T levels than with TRT alone? You would have your originial endogeneous production + your exogeneous.
  

  
 

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