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    secondary or primary


    I know you guys are pretty by the book in here...
    I am on HRT, but mainly because my test is low as **** for me.
    I never found out wether im primary or secondary. Is this something you NEED to know? Or does it just help you sleep at night knowing what you are. my shady clinic that i first used only tested total test, and free test among other things , but no LH or FSH. I got those things tested, but it was during my therapy so I dont think you can use those #s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT5 View Post
    I know you guys are pretty by the book in here...
    I am on HRT, but mainly because my test is low as **** for me.
    I never found out wether im primary or secondary. Is this something you NEED to know? Or does it just help you sleep at night knowing what you are. my shady clinic that i first used only tested total test, and free test among other things , but no LH or FSH. I got those things tested, but it was during my therapy so I dont think you can use those #s.
    As long as you have testicles, even if they are totally shrunk (now),
    it is a good idea to use HCG shots few times a week.
    HCG will keep testicles in shape.

    Benefits, other than cosmetic, testicles produce other than testosterone stuff that is usefull to your body.

    Primary--- cannot fertilize
    Secondary--- can be made or already is fertile

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    As long as you have testicles, even if they are totally shrunk (now),
    it is a good idea to use HCG shots few times a week.
    HCG will keep testicles in shape.

    Benefits, other than cosmetic, testicles produce other than testosterone stuff that is usefull to your body.

    Primary--- cannot fertilize
    Secondary--- can be made or already is fertile

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    Janz, thanks.
    I think maybe you answered my question. before i started my true TRT i got my boys tested. sperm was completely normal. Does this mean im secondary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DT5 View Post
    Janz, thanks.
    I think maybe you answered my question. before i started my true TRT i got my boys tested. sperm was completely normal. Does this mean im secondary?
    run clomid 50 mgs for 7 nights and then test on the 8th day total testosterone to see if it moves then you have your answer.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    Jansz, what do you think about the fertility test i ran in my post before this one. let me know when you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by DT5 View Post
    Janz, thanks.
    I think maybe you answered my question. before i started my true TRT i got my boys tested. sperm was completely normal. Does this mean im secondary?
    There is very good chance that you are secondary.

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    In the first post you said that you are on HRT.
    That is non-descriptive, more details need.

    Whatewer you do, you want always have HCG.
    You want to keep testicles full and in best possible shape.
    That is not only because of sperm but because testicles are producing other things than sperm and testosterone.
    You bedy needs that other stuff.

    If you are secondary and have strong enough testis, your whole HRT may consist of HCG only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanSz View Post
    As long as you have testicles, even if they are totally shrunk (now),
    it is a good idea to use HCG shots few times a week.
    HCG will keep testicles in shape.

    Benefits, other than cosmetic, testicles produce other than testosterone stuff that is usefull to your body.

    Primary--- cannot fertilize
    Secondary--- can be made or already is fertile

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    So a good sperm count would indicate secondary? What if lh is in the middle of the range? Could it be a pulse?
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