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so lets say if your total test was around 300...How much 200 cypionate every week raise it??...Any guesses??...And would it differentiate between people??...
 
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so lets say if your total test was around 300...How much 200 cypionate every week raise it??...Any guesses??...And would it differentiate between people??...
100 mgs should take you to 600-700 provided e2 is in check and all other variable 200 mgs is over kill and you cross over into dark water with estrogen issues and also thyroid/adrenals imbalances. Stick to 100 mgs a week then if it still low increase 20 mgs monitoring your estrogen and shbg.
 
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so lets say if your total test was around 300...How much 200 cypionate every week raise it??...Any guesses??...And would it differentiate between people??...
Way too much T.

Goals
DHEAs(500-640)mcg/dL
Progesterone(0.9-1.2)ng/mL
Pregnenolone(> 100ng/dL)
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive(25-29)pg/mL
Estrone, LC/MS/MS (23244X)
BATest(342, 460-575)ng/dL
DHT(60-90)ng/dL
FreeT3~400pg/dL
Body temperature (97.8° - 98.2°F) (36.56° - 36.78°C); (36.6-37C)(97.9-98.6F)
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Way too much T.

Goals
DHEAs(500-640)mcg/dL
Progesterone(0.9-1.2)ng/mL
Pregnenolone(> 100ng/dL)
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive(25-29)pg/mL WRONG ITS <7-<18
Estrone, LC/MS/MS (23244X)
BATest(342, 460-575)ng/dL
DHT(60-90)ng/dL
FreeT3~400pg/dL
Body temperature (97.8° - 98.2°F) (36.56° - 36.78°C); (36.6-37C)(97.9-98.6F)
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I did get 200 for every week for a month and I was off the chart...I also started working out, eating better, and cut alcohol to smaller doses even though I still get tossed like crazy...I use to drink alot alot.......anyway Now I'm concerned about estrogen and going bald I was at like 1300 total and 2.3 free...the range being 1.5-2.2........Also I can't say I feel a super difference but I guess I do...........also I have no adrenals....Thats the way the doc put it...So I got some cortisol,.
 
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so lets say if your total test was around 300...How much 200 cypionate every week raise it??...Any guesses??...And would it differentiate between people??...
just to be clear too, your starting point is irrelevant once you are dosing that much, doesn't matter if your total test was 4 or 400, you are entirely replacing it with exogenous testosterone at that point.
 
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so lets say if your total test was around 300...How much 200 cypionate every week raise it??...Any guesses??...And would it differentiate between people??...
You may want to look at table that I developed.
post #40
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-2.html#post870845

It is based on research that I posted within that post.
The testicles of men in that research were blocked from production.
I developed that table to allow me crude estimate of a first approximate wekly testosterone dose as a function of SHBG level.

Remember that that table is crude, but the table says that 200mg/week testosterone injections should raise your TT~1340ng/dL
======================================================

Someones response may be different,
higher, if his testis are still producing
higher, if he draws blood shortly after the shot
lower, if he draws blood week or two after the shot
======================================================

I developed that table for my self.
I was transferring from transdermal to injections, my testis were shot, non-existing, after over 2 years on transdermals and no HCG.
I used EOD schedule.
Blood draw 24 hrs after the T-shot.
My experience follows that table.
Error about 30%

Someone who's SHBG=44
have no working testis,
and who is planning to have FreeT~300 per chart
would be justified to use that much testosterone on his first try.
After that he would adjust his dose per blood test.

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DepoT TotalT SHBG FreeT SHBG FreeT
25 353 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
30 381 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
35 410 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
40 438 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
45 466 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
50 494 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
55 522 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
60 551 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
65 579 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
70 607 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
75 635 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
80 663 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
85 692 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
90 720 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
95 748 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
100 776 xx5 300 14.4 250
105 805 xx7 300 16.5 250
110 833 xx9 300 18.6 250
115 861 10.8 300 20.7 250
120 889 xx13 300 xx23 250
125 917 xx15 300 xx25 250
130 946 16.7 300 x27.3 250
135 974 18.7 300 x29.4 250
140 1002 xx21 300 x31.5 250
145 1030 22.6 300 x33.5 250
150 1058 24.5 300 x35.6 250
155 1087 26.4 300 xx38 250
160 1115 28.4 300 xx40 250
165 1143 30.4 300 x42.2 250
170 1171 32.3 300 x44.4 250
175 1199 34.3 300 x46.3 250
180 1228 36.3 300 x48.5 250
185 1256 38.2 300 x50.7 250
190 1284 xx40 300 x52.8 250
195 1312 xxxx 300 xx55 250
200 1340 xx44 300 xx57 250
205 1369 xxxx 300 x59.3 250
210 1397 xx48 300 x61.5 250
215 1425 xxxx 300 x63.4 250
220 1453 51.7 300 xxxx 250
225 1481 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
230 1510 55.6 300 xxxx 250
235 1538 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
240 1566 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
245 1594 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
250 1622 63.5 300 xxxx 250
255 1651 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
260 1679 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
265 1707 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
270 1735 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
275 1763 xxxx 300 xxxx 250

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dr john

I have been hearing about dr john alot but cant find out who he is will someone please pm me about this . I need a good doc
 

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I have been hearing about dr john alot but cant find out who he is will someone please pm me about this . I need a good doc
Dr. john is a physician in Lansing Michigan. His last name is Crisler, if you google him. All Things Male is his business
 

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does anyone know if he will work through another doctor close to me
 
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Last I checked first appointment has to be in person. After that monitoring can be done via a local doctor.
 

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Last I checked first appointment has to be in person. After that monitoring can be done via a local doctor.
Nope. If you have a local physician who will work with Dr. Crisler, you don't have to travel to Michigan at all.
 
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well damn. that must have changed in the last year or so then, as I had talked to him while he was still active here and he couldnt/wouldnt do that.
 
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I believe he would consult with your local physician in the event that the physician would consider treating you with his consultation. In order for him to treat you himself personally your first appointment need be in person at his location and then he would provide follow-up through virtual visits.
 

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You may want to look at table that I developed.
post #40
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-2.html#post870845

It is based on research that I posted within that post.
The testicles of men in that research were blocked from production.
I developed that table to allow me crude estimate of a first approximate wekly testosterone dose as a function of SHBG level.

Remember that that table is crude, but the table says that 200mg/week testosterone injections should raise your TT~1340ng/dL
======================================================

Someones response may be different,
higher, if his testis are still producing
higher, if he draws blood shortly after the shot
lower, if he draws blood week or two after the shot
======================================================

I developed that table for my self.
I was transferring from transdermal to injections, my testis were shot, non-existing, after over 2 years on transdermals and no HCG.
I used EOD schedule.
Blood draw 24 hrs after the T-shot.
My experience follows that table.
Error about 30%

Someone who's SHBG=44
have no working testis,
and who is planning to have FreeT~300 per chart
would be justified to use that much testosterone on his first try.
After that he would adjust his dose per blood test.

=======================================================
DepoT TotalT SHBG FreeT SHBG FreeT
25 353 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
30 381 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
35 410 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
40 438 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
45 466 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
50 494 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
55 522 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
60 551 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
65 579 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
70 607 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
75 635 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
80 663 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
85 692 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
90 720 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
95 748 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
100 776 xx5 300 14.4 250
105 805 xx7 300 16.5 250
110 833 xx9 300 18.6 250
115 861 10.8 300 20.7 250
120 889 xx13 300 xx23 250
125 917 xx15 300 xx25 250
130 946 16.7 300 x27.3 250
135 974 18.7 300 x29.4 250
140 1002 xx21 300 x31.5 250
145 1030 22.6 300 x33.5 250
150 1058 24.5 300 x35.6 250
155 1087 26.4 300 xx38 250
160 1115 28.4 300 xx40 250
165 1143 30.4 300 x42.2 250
170 1171 32.3 300 x44.4 250
175 1199 34.3 300 x46.3 250
180 1228 36.3 300 x48.5 250
185 1256 38.2 300 x50.7 250
190 1284 xx40 300 x52.8 250
195 1312 xxxx 300 xx55 250
200 1340 xx44 300 xx57 250
205 1369 xxxx 300 x59.3 250
210 1397 xx48 300 x61.5 250
215 1425 xxxx 300 x63.4 250
220 1453 51.7 300 xxxx 250
225 1481 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
230 1510 55.6 300 xxxx 250
235 1538 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
240 1566 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
245 1594 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
250 1622 63.5 300 xxxx 250
255 1651 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
260 1679 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
265 1707 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
270 1735 xxxx 300 xxxx 250
275 1763 xxxx 300 xxxx 250

.
Chart is pretty acurate
 

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