bad wiener again
- 10-13-2008, 04:54 PM
bad wiener again
bad wiener again
last week my g/f was on her period and i took my regular dose of dhea 30 mg and 200 mg 7-keto-dhea with 15 mg cortisol
i tried to have sex again and it was a lot harder to get it up for me
let me illustrate:
before i didn't have any power at all
then got to the point where i didn't need manual stimulation to get it up again and i could just insert it (strength was not optimal though)
after a week of no sex it didn't work as good
my guess is e2 went too high, which of course can be only measured by test.. but is this possible from what im taking? i mean im a skinny guy with really low e2, that it went over the top due to all the dhea?
and that i missed my "best wood" during the my g/f's period? and after that e2 went too high?
i also had some case of painful nuts, is this possible due to the medication? i also don't feel like watching porn at the off days when i don't have sex, like normally it pops in my mind and now i just don't give a ****... strange..
- 10-14-2008, 08:10 PM
Are you saying that this is the first time this dosing regimen of dhea had this effect? Or was this a new dose for you? Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "didn't have any power at all".
- 10-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Even tho you're taking a high dose of 7-keto (200mg is max), it's not supposed to convert into estrogen like regular dhea. And 30mg regular dhea is average, so I doubt you've raised estrogen levels much (but everyone is different). For example, I have low E2 and was trying to raise it using 50mg sublingual dhea... didn't budge. Libido can fluctuate for many reasons... if it becomes a long term issue, you'll need a doc and some labs to get it right.
10-15-2008, 12:04 AM
yes this is the first time that this dose had this effect and it continues to have this effect
didn't have any power at all meant this: i would get aroused as soon as i tried anything, i.e. penetrating, it would go soft, and this would happen two or three times, then after that nothing, literally nothing, no matter how hard she pulls on it nothing happens
10-15-2008, 12:06 AM
i even read in some places 7-keto does not convert to dhea-s which is my guess that if dhea-s is too high it may convert to estradiol even though 7-keto itself does not
you are right about 30 mg dhea being average but ive been on this dose for a few months now soo..
anyways going in for a blooddraw today
good luck with your low e2 and certainly keep us posted would like to hear how it turns out for you
10-15-2008, 09:20 AM
My libido is shot like this too. So much that I don't even attempt sex anymore.
10-15-2008, 09:45 AM
10-15-2008, 09:53 AM
Yes, in the middle of figuring it all out with a 3rd doctor.
10-15-2008, 06:54 PM
good luck man
this is a review on iherb i found of 7-keto-dhea on the now product:
Since starting 7keto dhea my immune system has improved and i am sleeping better at night time, my DHEA-S blood levels have almost doubled in little over a month, highly recommended for adrenal exhaustion.
Is it possible that dhea-s converts to estradiol when needed? Or does it automatically do when dhea-s is higher?
This is my concern because if what this person is saying is true, then adding my 30 mg dhea regular will make it even higher and make estradiol higher.
**** maybe i just should add in zinc at night or some **** to lower it...
10-15-2008, 07:33 PM
have you got new bloodwork? tried low dose ai?
can't go taking shots in the dark and expect to fix something without proper knowledge of the situation.
edit: I see you're getting that blood draw. I'm assuming e2 is high.
10-15-2008, 07:58 PM
Le Magazine, May 2005 - Cover Story: 7-Keto Dhea The Fat-Burning Metabolite Of Dhea
"Unlike DHEA, 7-Keto does not convert to estrogen and testosterone."
The danger of high level dhea or 7-keto is burning too many essential fats, the kind you need for healthy cell membranes and stuff. The immune results are impressive though.
10-16-2008, 03:55 AM
might wanna run some viagra or something, have talked about it already with my g/f, she is afraid i will not be able to give her a child if i keep on using viagra and that sort of stuff, is that true?
i am also pissing dark yellow last week a lot, i know it's possible if you have too high intake of vitamins, but is this also possible with dhea and so forth?
10-16-2008, 03:59 AM
so my main question is:
in and of itself, 7-keto-dhea does not convert to testosterone or estrogen, but does it indeed increase dhea-s levels and thus as an indirect action of 7-keto-dhea's increasing dhea-s level, is it possible that the high dhea-s level converts to estradiol, even though it isn't directly mediated by 7-keto-dhea?
i hope this is a clear question if not ask me about it, im trying to find evidence on google but haven't found anything yet which indicates this
10-16-2008, 08:33 AM
10-16-2008, 10:16 AM
No viagra nor cialis will not do anything of the sort. Cialis is much better btw. Levitra, I've never tried. Are you on TRT?
btw, why will it take so long to make another apt? I can make one every week if I'd like to. Is it something to do with your insurance plan? Go see another doc if he/she's too busy.
ps: dark yellow piss....try drinking more water. sounds like dehydration
10-16-2008, 03:55 PM
ehm the bloodtesting takes a few weeks to process and the doctor wants to use a standard time of 6 weeks to see how hormones change certain levels, also i ain't got time with work and so forth to go to doctor one hour drive every time
it's also got to do with insurance, the doc says if i take too many tests in same period insurance will not cover everything since he tests the entire picture
im staying with this doc because he's one of the top anti again guys, that's why he's probably as busy as well
thx for the tip on the water i might be low nowadays on it
10-16-2008, 06:00 PM
dhea always shuts my sex drive/ability down as well. Not sure why, I have taken low dose arimidex with it and still no improvement.
If you take essential fatty acids, or eat high fats would this offset the negative impact dhea has on fatty cell membranes?
10-16-2008, 08:46 PM
10-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Where did you get your EFA's tested or how do you go about doing this? Would like to know more about this. Thanks bro
10-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Essential & Metabolic Fatty Acids Analysis (EMFA) - Diagnostic Laboratory Testing for Wellness & Preventive Medicine - Genova Diagnostics
See if your doc will order it. If not, I have an internet source.
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