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Old 10-08-2008, 05:27 PM   #1
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Starting TRT - when did you notice first changes?
How long has it taken everyone to start noticing a change when starting TRT?

It's been 6 days for me since my first shot (250mg) of test-e, and a couple days since another shot of 75mg test-e... This is my first time ever taking test..Pretty sure the test is kicking in now, but libido hasn't noticeably gone up. Even if my e2 were high, typically libido will still kick in initially when starting TRT. My e2 does not feel high atm either..so it's not that. I've read it taking people anywhere from 5-11 days to 2 weeks plus+. Maybe I should wait patiently and give it more time?

Just looking for the average among people here..
 
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:37 PM   #2
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25 viewers so far...I guess none of them are on TRT
 
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25 viewers so far...I guess none of them are on TRT
Because many of them who are on TRT not benefitted that much.
I actually felt the difference in 3 days(libido and mood wise).
 
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Old 10-09-2008, 03:39 PM   #4
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Really? Must be this forum then...majority of cases I read notice a difference like night and day, especially in the beginning until e2 becomes an issue.
 
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Many people do not feel an immediate improvement. Starting TRT will usually shut down your natural production. It takes awhile for things to level out.

I have also read posts from a number of people that didn't see much libido improvement even with higher T levels. Adding HCG seems to do more for the libido than T alone.
 
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I'm on hcg + test + ai

started with hcg first, then added ai, then added test while lowering dosage of hcg

hcg (pregnyl) didn't do much for me
 
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I am in the middle of my 3rd week 10 mg of Test cream a day.
I noticed an immediate increase in energy, but it seems to have faded, about a week ago. I have had tons of trouble sleeping, but that seems to be going great knock on wood. I have my next blood test in early Nov. I have not really noticed much or anything in strength gains or fat loss.
 
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I haven't tried the creams or gels, went straight for the oil.

Maybe my problem at the moment is high estrogen due to the high dose hcg I was doing for a while. Well i've upped my AI dose (aromasin) to about 20mg ed for this week then will lower to 15mg and get tested soon. Going to stick to 250mg of test per week and move backwards if I have to. Tired of feeling tired and of not being able to finish off during sex.. I'm even considering getting some DHT powder and creating a transdermal to kickstart my libido again for a short term till the test starts to do the trick..

Bottom line is I have to make that appointment already and travel to see the new doc, instead of using my own resources..I was just impatient.

On another note, I'm guessing the T is kicking in already cos I'm getting that occassional dull pain in the nuts which tells me I have some strong external androgens circulating in my body..
 
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Something else to note...since starting the AI + test shots..acne (bacne) has been subsiding. It was previously getting worse with HCG. Very strange. Must have been e2 related issues no doubt. I would have thought that the sudden surge in test would elevate acne issues though.
 
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FWIW...libido is kickin up some now..ejaculate volume has also really gone up?! Interesting.. Still takes forever to finish during sex though...gotta give it some time I guess..
 
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If your on test injections it will take about 4 weeks. Maybe a little after 2 weeks, but after 4-5 it will be at full throttle.

Its impossible to feel effects on day 3 of testosterone injections. The half life of this drug is 5-7 days.
 
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must be the hcg + higher dose of ai then that I'm feeling... I also upped my dhea to 75mg. Today I'm poppin random wood and definitely got a few extra shots in the barrel and much more volume. HCG on it's own never had that effect though at a higher dosage. btw, it's been 8 days since the first shot @ 250mg. I've done another 250 since then spread over 3 shots in the last week, just to try to speed things up..going to adjust after I see what my levels are at 250. I may have some adrenal issues so I have a feeling I am going to burn through the test quickly and need a higher dosage...guessing around 200 but we'll see.

Thanks for the reply...can't wait for that 4 week mark. Going to try some fenugreek till then @ 2-3 grams ed. Also taking deprenyl + l-dopa to keep prolactin controlled.
 
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must be the hcg + higher dose of ai then that I'm feeling... I also upped my dhea to 75mg. Today I'm poppin random wood and definitely got a few extra shots in the barrel and much more volume. HCG on it's own never had that effect though at a higher dosage. btw, it's been 8 days since the first shot @ 250mg. I've done another 250 since then spread over 3 shots in the last week, just to try to speed things up..going to adjust after I see what my levels are at 250. I may have some adrenal issues so I have a feeling I am going to burn through the test quickly and need a higher dosage...guessing around 200 but we'll see.

Thanks for the reply...can't wait for that 4 week mark. Going to try some fenugreek till then @ 2-3 grams ed. Also taking deprenyl + l-dopa to keep prolactin controlled.
Fenugreek probably won't do much. If you want to use a natural test booster while on TRT, you need something that can increase your free test. Your total test cannot change since you are taking synthetic testosterone, and not producing it naturally. Some 3,4 Divan extract stinging nettle root could help your free test go up, though:

when its back ins stock:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...-capsules.html

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http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/d...-120-caps.html
 
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Cool, thanks. How much stinging nettle in 2 caps of AX?
 
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Hard to say, probably 400
 
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I would just buy the bulk and cap it myself, that way you know how much you're getting. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...-50-grams.html

It's a good idea to cap that testofen/fenugreek too.
 


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Gutterpump...I see you finally made the move to using test. It looks like it's working well for you. Glad for you bro. Keep us updated.
 
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