[HQProperty]

I have a question:

im looking at my multivitamin supplement facts. For example Vitamin C. It says Vitamin C 60 MG 100% Daily Value

And say if i need to take 1000MG of Vitamin C in divided doses that would be 1666% Daily Value. Is that ok? Would that be considered overdosing? and then what if i have some orange juice and some fruits... wont i have too much vitamin C?

why do regular vitamins only have 100% daily value's and other ones have like really high amounts.

And how does someone balance the vitamin amounts they need along with their diet? like for example drinking 3 glasses of orange juice now you have 300% daily value. And u take 1000MG of vitamin C in divided doses

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by HQProperty

I have a question:

im looking at my multivitamin supplement facts. For example Vitamin C. It says Vitamin C 60 MG 100% Daily Value

And say if i need to take 1000MG of Vitamin C in divided doses that would be 1666% Daily Value. Is that ok? Would that be considered overdosing? and then what if i have some orange juice and some fruits... wont i have too much vitamin C?

why do regular vitamins only have 100% daily value's and other ones have like really high amounts.

And how does someone balance the vitamin amounts they need along with their diet? like for example drinking 3 glasses of orange juice now you have 300% daily value. And u take 1000MG of vitamin C in divided doses

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Daily values and other consideration is a lots of bs.

If you want to get a list with names and daily doses

If you want to know what you (personally) need in a way of
vitamins,
minerals
fats
amino-acids
anti-oxidants

Get Genova Diagnostics
test called

NutrEval

http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/

test description:
http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/fil...FMV_1Pager.pdf

sample report:
http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/fil...FMV_Report.pdf



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[HQProperty]

Originally Posted by JanSz

Daily values and other consideration is a lots of bs.

If you want to get a list with names and daily doses

If you want to know what you (personally) need in a way of
vitamins,
minerals
fats
amino-acids
anti-oxidants

Get Genova Diagnostics
test called

NutrEval

http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/

test description:
http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/fil...FMV_1Pager.pdf

sample report:
http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/fil...FMV_Report.pdf



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Thanks a lot for answering my question. You give a lot of good advice to people on the forum boards.

1 more question i have.

What do you think about the Spectracell Test
http://www.integrativepsychiatry.net...ectracell.html

Which one is better to take to find out what vitamins i need to take.

NutrEval Test Or Spectracell Test and why.

Spectracell Test i heard it uses it uses your lymphocytes to show stored vitamin levels over the past 6 months.

I definately want to take a test for this but need some help which is better since im paying out of pocket.

Thanks

[HQProperty]

i just called genova diagnostics and told them i wanted to do the NutrEval test. I told them i live in NYC. She said that my state doesnt allow me to take this test. WTF is there anything i can do?

I cant have this done in NY so can go to a different state and do it though? What options do i have? I really want to correct my vitamin deficiencies so this test is important to me. Why does NY LAWS have to be so messed up =(

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by HQProperty

Thanks a lot for answering my question. You give a lot of good advice to people on the forum boards.

1 more question i have.

What do you think about the Spectracell Test
Intracellular Vitamin Analysis by Spectracell

Which one is better to take to find out what vitamins i need to take.

NutrEval Test Or Spectracell Test and why.

Spectracell Test i heard it uses it uses your lymphocytes to show stored vitamin levels over the past 6 months.

I definately want to take a test for this but need some help which is better since im paying out of pocket.

Thanks

SpectraCell5000
is the one HAN likes.

I am sure it is good test.
It requires someone who knows how to interpret it, draw conclussions.

Also SpectraCell5000 it is limited in scope, when you would compared it to NutrEval. But possibly more accurate in what it does.

NutrEval test is a very comprehensive set of tests.
You get detailed report,
so your educated nutritionist can have a field day with it.
But if you do not have nutritionist available,
the report contains a list of supplements that laboratory thinks that you are missing.

I do both,
use the list as a starting point,
then use HAN's help to refine that list.
HAN already came with number of improvements, thank you.

One day, out of curiosity I will also have SpectraCell5000.
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DESCRIPTION:*NutrEval is a comprehensive nutritional evaluation to identify specific imbalances of vitamins, nutrients, and essential co-factors. This profile also provides assessment of gastrointestinal dysfunction and detoxification impairment.

ANALYTE LIST:

Glutathione
2-Hydroxyphenylacetic Acid
3-Hydroxyproprionic Acid
3-Methyl-4-OH-phenylglycol
4-Hydroxyphenylpyruvic Acid
5-OH-Indoleacetic Acid
Adipic Acid
a-Ketoadipic Acid
a-Keto-b-Methylvaleric Acid
a-Ketoglutaric Acid
a-Ketoisocaproic Acid
a-Ketoisovaleric Acid
Arabinose
b-Ketoglutaric Acid
b-OH-b-Methylglutaric Acid
b-OH-Butyric Acid
Cis-Aconitic Acid
Citramalic Acid
Citric Acid
Dihydroxyphenylpropionic Acid
Formiminoglutamic Acid
Fumaric Acid
Glutaric Acid
Homogentisic Acid
Homovanillic Acid
Indoleacetic Acid
Isocitric Acid
Kynurenic Acid
Lactic Acid
Malic Acid
Methylmalonic Acid
Orotic Acid
Phenylacetic Acid
Pyroglutamic Acid
Pyruvic Acid
Suberic Acid
Succinic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Vanilmandelic Acid
Nutritional Essential and Semi-essential AA:
Arginine
Histidine
Isoleucine
Leucine
Lysine
Methionine
Phenylalanine
Taurine
Threonine
Tryptophan
Valine
Dietary Peptide Related Markers:
Anserine (dipeptide)
Carnosine (dipeptide)
1-methylhistidine
Beta-alanine
Non-Essential Protein Markers:
Alanine
Asparagine
Aspartic acid
Cyst(e)ine
Glutamic acid
Glutamine
Glycine
Proline
Serine
Tyrosine
Thallium
Tin
Copper
Magnesium
Selenium
Vanadium
Zinc
Antimony
Mercury
Manganese
Lipid Peroxides, Blood
Intermediary Metabolytes & Diagnostic Markers:
Alpha-aminoadipic acid
Alpha-amino-N-butyric acid
Arginosuccinic acid
Beta-aminoisobutyric acid
Citulline
Cystathionine
Ethanolamine
Ornithine
Phosphoethanolamine
Phosphoserine
Ammonia
Urea nitrogen
Creatinine (Nutritional)
alpha-Linolenic
Arachidic
Arachidonic
Behenic
Dihomo-gamma-linolenic
Docosahexaenoic
Docosapentaenoic
Docosatetraenoic
Eicosadienoic
Eicosapentaenoic
Elaidic
Gamma-Linolenic
Gondoic
Tricosanoic
Linoleic
Margaric
Vaccenic
Oleic
Palmitic
Palmitoleic
Pentadecanoic
Stearic
Nervonic
Lignoceric
Arsenic
Cadmium
Lead
Molybdenum
Potassium
Oxidative Stress
Metabolic Analysis Profile
Amino Acids urine
Essential & Metabolic Fatty Acids
Elemental Analysis (packed RBC)

Turn Around Time:*14 Days

Specimen Requirements:*Urine and blood specimens required. Refer to clinician instructions for details

Referenced materials:*

nutritional brochure.pdf
autism brochure.pdf

CPT Codes:*

82978****name:*Glutathione
83921****name:*2-Hydroxyphenylacetic Acid
83921****name:*3-Hydroxyproprionic Acid
83921****name:*3-Methyl-4-OH-phenylglycol
83921****name:*4-Hydroxyphenylpyruvic Acid
83497****name:*5-OH-Indoleacetic Acid
83921****name:*Adipic Acid
83921****name:*a-Ketoadipic Acid
83921****name:*a-Keto-b-Methylvaleric Acid
83921****name:*a-Ketoisocaproic Acid
83921****name:*a-Ketoisovaleric Acid
83921****name:*b-OH-Butyric Acid
82507****name:*Citric Acid
83921****name:*Glutaric Acid
83921****name:*Homogentisic Acid
83150****name:*Homovanillic Acid
83605****name:*Lactic Acid
83921****name:*Methylmalonic Acid
83921****name:*Orotic Acid
84210****name:*Pyruvic Acid
84585****name:*Vanilmandelic Acid
82139****name:*Nutritional Essential and Semi-essential AA:
82139****name:*Creatinine (Nutritional)
82542****name:*alpha-Linolenic
82726****name:*Nervonic
82978****name:*Oxidative Stress
82139****name:*Amino Acids urine

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by HQProperty

i just called genova diagnostics and told them i wanted to do the NutrEval test. I told them i live in NYC. She said that my state doesnt allow me to take this test. WTF is there anything i can do?

I cant have this done in NY so can go to a different state and do it though? What options do i have? I really want to correct my vitamin deficiencies so this test is important to me. Why does NY LAWS have to be so messed up =(

People who live in NY State are screwed.
Find a doc in NJ or PA use his address.

I think same goes for Spectracel and other nutritional laboratories/tests.

[HQProperty]

Originally Posted by JanSz

People who live in NY State are screwed.
Find a doc in NJ or PA use his address.

I think same goes for Spectracel and other nutritional laboratories/tests.

Thanks i guess i will have get a NJ doctor.

Do you know if they take insurrance for the NutrEval Test?
If its out of the pocket how much would it be? a range would be nice.

So these are the steps i have to take( bit confused please correct me if im wrong)

1. Find NJ Doc
2. I prob have to make an appointment, the first visit i will have to ask him for a script to get a NutrEval Test.
3. Fax Script to Genova Diagnostics.
4. Use NJ Doc Address.
5. Doc will receive Kit for blood work and urine.
6. Make another appointment this time get blood work done

Now When they did send the kit to my NJ doctor. Does it come with a bill also? How does the payment go? There is lots of paper work i need to fill out?

Once the kit is filled up with blood and urine. Do i send it back to the lab or does my Doc do that.

So then after 14 days or so my doctor will get the results right then just get it faxed to me.

Do you think its possible the Doc can give me a script for the test without seeing him first? Or i definitely have to see him first for the script.

Do you think its ok i use the doc address for my address?

Am i missing anything?

Thanks a lot man

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by HQProperty

Thanks i guess i will have get a NJ doctor.

Do you know if they take insurrance for the NutrEval Test?
If its out of the pocket how much would it be? a range would be nice.

So these are the steps i have to take( bit confused please correct me if im wrong)

1. Find NJ Doc
2. I prob have to make an appointment, the first visit i will have to ask him for a script to get a NutrEval Test.
3. Fax Script to Genova Diagnostics.
4. Use NJ Doc Address.
5. Doc will receive Kit for blood work and urine.
6. Make another appointment this time get blood work done

Now When they did send the kit to my NJ doctor. Does it come with a bill also? How does the payment go? There is lots of paper work i need to fill out?

Once the kit is filled up with blood and urine. Do i send it back to the lab or does my Doc do that.

So then after 14 days or so my doctor will get the results right then just get it faxed to me.

Do you think its possible the Doc can give me a script for the test without seeing him first? Or i definitely have to see him first for the script.

Do you think its ok i use the doc address for my address?

Am i missing anything?

Thanks a lot man

#1. pick up location in NJ, convenient for you, get ZIP code.

#2. e-mail Genova diagnostics, ask them for a list of doctors that have accounts with them and are located in 20 miles radius from that ZIP code.

#3. pick a doctor from that list

#4. you can ask doctor to contact Genova and ask them to send the kit directly to your house. May be a problem if you live in appartment complex, depends on delivery system.

#5 depending on your insurance, Genova may process the bill for you or ask you for cash. But they give extensive coding and bill that is rather helpfull to get reimbursment.

#6. NutrEval is made of number of individual test that can also be ordered separately. When ordered as a bundle you have this additional value, because you are doing overall extensive testing, resulting report is comprehensive.
One of the tests there, is not reimbursable, IIRC it is about $140.

#7 ask and you should receive:
color hard copy of the report
report as a PDF file

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[HQProperty]

Originally Posted by JanSz

#1. pick up location in NJ, convenient for you, get ZIP code.

#2. e-mail Genova diagnostics, ask them for a list of doctors that have accounts with them and are located in 20 miles radius from that ZIP code.

#3. pick a doctor from that list

#4. you can ask doctor to contact Genova and ask them to send the kit directly to your house. May be a problem if you live in appartment complex, depends on delivery system.

#5 depending on your insurance, Genova may process the bill for you or ask you for cash. But they give extensive coding and bill that is rather helpfull to get reimbursment.

#6. NutrEval is made of number of individual test that can also be ordered separately. When ordered as a bundle you have this additional value, because you are doing overall extensive testing, resulting report is comprehensive.
One of the tests there, is not reimbursable, IIRC it is about $140.

#7 ask and you should receive:
color hard copy of the report
report as a PDF file

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Any idea how much the whole bundle costs? I will have to pay out of pocket trying to get an idea. Is it over 1 Grand?

Also do you know how much the RBC fatty acid test costs separately?

Seems like they dont list the prices on the site.

Thanks man you really helped me out

[engival]

so you can order http://www.integrativepsychiatry.net...ectracell.html

without a docs script?

also did you this test done yet?

[HQProperty]

Originally Posted by engival

so you can order http://www.integrativepsychiatry.net...ectracell.html

without a docs script?

also did you this test done yet?

I dont know if u can get it done without a script but it does look like you can since those people are the doctors. and they mail you the results. im not 100% sure but leanguy can tell you more about it.

Yeah i got the test done but i went to
http://spectracell.com/find-a-clinician/ and found a doctor who does that test. It will take 2 week for results. Its a bit cheaper for the test if you do it directly from your doc. But of course you have to factor in the Doctor Fee.