still no libido 2-3 years on trt
- 09-07-2008, 08:40 PM
still no libido 2-3 years on trt
I have been having libido problems throughout androgel 5g, 10g, Tcyp 100mgT, Tcyp 160mg T.
I am taking an 80mg T shot Tues/Fri each week, for a total of 160mg a week. This keeps me a little above 1000.
I am taking 50mg pregnenolone each morning.
I am taking 150mg DHEA, as 200mg each day put me at 481 DHEA/S before starting the pregnenolone. I have since lowered the dose by 50mg to 150mg to compensate for the pregnenolone.
I have tried 1mg a'dex a week, .4mg a'dex a week, .2mg a'dex a week, nothing works. right now i take none at all, and i feel better than before (except for libido, unchanged mostly...), but i get swelling in my right foot sometimes. Sometimes I notice improvements though and powerful erections and a little hornyness. Not sure if there really is a "small window" that i keep missing for E2, and that i may have to try .1mg adex a week for a month, then .2mg adex for a month, etc.
i got gyno developing when i was taking too much thyroid meds last december-january. i was on 3 grains of armour thyroid, now i take 137 mcg synthroid.
now i am on enough that keeps my tsh at .6 and i feel much more level then before.
still no libido.... any tips?
thanks so much. im 23, and lost my libido mid-college 3 years ago....depressing....
fwiw, libido got worse after starting TRT then before TRT it seems.
also if my gyno was caused by TRT, wouldnt it keep getting worse, or is there a set point for whatever circulating estrogens i have in my body? i plan on getting surgery since they stopped growing, but will they grow back to this same point, or if there not growing, there NOT COMING BACK (dosage changes aside).
also i tried wellbutrin to help with libido. it did make me think more about girls and they appeared more beautiful but didnt give me that primal they need to get banged feeling, or ignite that brain to penis pining/aching for sex... cialis kept whatever level of erection i achieved staying a little longer, but did not help me achieve powerful erections needed for high quality sex....
Last edited by FOXDIE; 09-07-2008 at 08:44 PM. Reason: forgot parts
- 09-07-2008, 09:07 PM
I tried TRT for 2 months (depo 200mg every two weeks) I didnt feel any change in my feelings, but my stomach bloated like anything and E2 increased. I stopped TRT. I tried Androgel too.Same feeling. Finally I went for pranic healing session. Within one session I started feeling better. After 3 sessions I got my libido back and brain became clear and ejaculation more powerful. Just give it a shot. you wont repent it.
- 09-08-2008, 10:48 AM
09-08-2008, 10:58 AM
In Ancient times, Pranic Healing could only be practised by an elite few. My job was to develop a very effective healing system, which ordinary people could learn in just a short period. Anybody can practise pranic healing now. The knowledge of being able to deal with simple ailments is quite empowering.
-Master Choa Kok Sui
Pranic Healing® is a simple yet powerful and effective system of no-touch energy healing originated and developed by GrandMaster Choa Kok Sui. It is based on the fundamental principle that the body is a self-repairing living entity that possesses the innate ability to heal itself. Pranic Healing® works on the principle that the healing process is accelerated by increasing the life force or vital energy on the affected part of the physical body.
Pranic Healing® is applied on the bio-electromagnetic field known as the aura, or energy body, which is a mold or blueprint that surrounds and interpenetrates the physical body. This energy body absorbs life energy and distributes it throughout the physical body, to the muscles, organs, glands, etc. The reason Pranic Healing® works on the energy body is that physical ailments first appear as energetic disruptions in the aura before manifesting as problems in the physical body
09-08-2008, 11:02 AM
Ok, well regardless of this prana stuff helping my libido or wellbeing, I have to take the educated standpoint that it will not raise my testosterone levels into the upper quartile of the standard range.
Therefor I must remain on the therapy, as I am not going to allow my levels to drop to low levels, regardless of if this prana healing can help me out.
So lets drop that idea; does anyone have answers for me that are in line with modern medicine?
Thanks for your contribution anyway man.
09-08-2008, 11:06 AM
09-08-2008, 11:36 AM
09-08-2008, 11:38 AM
try cabergoline, might want to test and see if your prolactin is high though? And what do you mean by bloated stomach?
09-08-2008, 01:56 PM
my stomache didnt bloat. my right foot got "fat" and bloated after both times i stopped arimidex, and then faded away to normal.
and my prolactin is fine i had it tested.
im guessing my e2 is not perfect. is a good idea to hold each dosage for 4 weeks? 3? 2? before changing? i was going to start with .1mg 2x a week for a total of .2mg a weekly. and then increase by .1 each couple of weeks. i think before i switched to much without enough time to really test.
i have stopped using arimidex for a month, so youd think by now things would start looking up. my best time was when i was experimenting in the .2mg-.4mg range. i had sex dreams and hard erections. i feel if i stayed in that zone i could have my libido return, on top of the increased erectile function i experienced.
09-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Libido is tough to troubleshoot. My hormones are near perfect now (off TRT) but my libido still fluctuates... can't pin down what's changing.
Sounds like E2 balance is your problem if changing the adex helps. E2 is the most common issue for most. I'm going to get a "sensitive" E2 test to check mine in more detail.
09-09-2008, 06:32 AM
09-09-2008, 02:29 PM
09-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Posted today by dr John, on his board.
Right on topic for this thread.
I do not have any details.
I am not Dr John patient.
http://muscle chat room.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1832
For My Patients Only
For my patients who--despite having their other hormones balanced--still have not found increases in sexual function, please email Kim and set up an appointment.
I am introducing a new therapy.
09-09-2008, 06:30 PM
09-09-2008, 10:59 PM
is aromatase inhibitor.
Use it if Estradiol=E2 is high and need to be lowered.
DIM is used to help process Estrone metabolites
There is two way process Estrodial <----> Estrone
Test for Estrodial using
Other estrodial tests are useless.
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