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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    We just don't have a merchant account, Bam...so things take a few days longer (maybe 2 days longer), but other than that things have been humming along like normal. Did you need something or have a question? When people order I am pretty clear in explaining that the process takes a little longer than normal. Part of the reason for this is because we are doing orders manually right now, so it isn't automatic like a computer system. Still, shipping times are still fairly normal.

    For example, I have been ordering through True Nutrition for years and it always takes me a week to get my order. MA Lbs used to deliver in 2-3 business days days, but now it usually takes like 4-5 business days days. People are just so accustomed to receiving their order in 2-3 days that they think something is wrong when it takes an extra couple days to get a tracking number. For example, Godstrength received his info this morning and we already spoke via email, so everything is fine there. He wasn't aware we were closed on the weekends...or that the process was a bit slower than normal. He will be here to post shortly.

    Since we lost our merchant account, we haven't had a single person say they haven't received their order. Even that thief and liar above (Ironkill) ordered long before we lost our merchant account. I am busting my ass to get things done for people as fast as I can, but it does take about 4-5 business days now to receive an order. I wish it were shorter...and we hope it changes soon, but we still within a normal time-frame for supplement companies in general.
    I gotcha. Last time I tried to order you guys weren't able to process any orders so I had to go with another source, so I was still under the impression that that was the situation. I'll keep this in mind for the future!
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by DemntedCowboy View Post
    You should check for an ebay or amazon account. Maybe he's reselling your product at a jacked up cost to make money? Maybe he's in a tight spot and needs the money cause he can't afford his supplement addiction by the way @Mike Arnold can you PM me the best way to place another order. I will be placing another order in about 2 weeks. I'm running low
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by BamBam0319 View Post
    I gotcha. Last time I tried to order you guys weren't able to process any orders so I had to go with another source, so I was still under the impression that that was the situation. I'll keep this in mind for the future!
    Yeah, that was like the first week or so when we were using a manual CC reader and it had to be shut down. We have consistently been taking orders since then. We now take E-check, bitcoin, money order, check, money transfers, etc.
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  4. MA Labs Now Accepting Credit Cards


    "Obtained a New Merchant Account"



    Guys, we just got a new merchant account! This means you can order through the website with a credit card again! We don't know how long it will last (hopefully forever, LOL), but if you want to order NOW is the time!




    MA-PUMP will be released within 24-48 hours!!
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    This guy is a thief.

    Here' this guy's story.


    For one, this thief/liar did get a reply from both me and another employee...multiple times...and I have the email chains to prove it. Since Ironkill supposedly never got a response, I am assuming he won't have a problem with me posting up the email chain of him and I communicating, along with him and Gena's email chain. After all, since this conversation never happened I am assuming he won't mind if it contains his personal info, right, Ironkill?

    Secondly, this guy ordered 2 MONTHS ago...long before we lost the merchant account...and just emailed me a few days ago. When I asked him WHY he took so long to say something he said "he forgot".

    I was very kind to him whenever we spoke...and after I spoke to him I said I would look into it for him and correct the situation. At that point I contacted the person who handles all of our shipping in order to get some information (because she has all the past orders on record). She is a very nice lady named Gena. She then informs me that he has been speaking to her for days. In my experience, whenever someone starts talking to two different people in the same company without letting the other person know they are doing so, while asking for more products to be shipped out to them...they are trying to pull something shady.

    Then, after we check his tracking info to see if the package was delivered (from 2 months ago) to the correct address, we see that it was. Now, if someone contacts us saying they never received their package, we will almost always re-send it, even if it shows it was delivered, just in case it was stolen, etc...but this wasn't the case here.

    After a bit more digging, we also find out that he has been contacting other related companies (IML, for instance), saying he never received any of those packages either...such as a MuscleGelz (and IML product) product he ordered. Of course, when we check to see it it was delivered to the proper address, it most certainly was...just like the last time.

    The facts are condensed below. Tell me what you think is going on.


    * He starts out by lying in this thread, saying no one ever responded to him.

    * He emails me a few days ago about a product he ordered 2 months ago...and says "he forgot about it" until just now.

    * He is speaking to multiple people in the same company about the same thing, without telling either of us he is doing so.

    * He is contacting multiple companies saying he never received any of their packages.

    * All the tracking numbers from all of his orders are showing they were delivered to the proper address.



    Although I left the decision for this case in someone else's hands, I think the evidence shows that he is not only a thief, but definitely a liar...a when someone starts lying (which is indisputable in this case), it becomes even more likely that he is also lying about not receiving any of his packages from multiple companies.


    Another incriminating piece of evidence is that, the last time we spoke, he said this, to quote "Thanks Mike. If it can't be figured out I would like to place another order as I don't want to run out and stop the product. I've enjoyed it very much".

    Who in their right mind tells someone that they STILL want to place an order with the company if they think the company ripped them off? No one.

    I'll reply to set the record straight.

    Firstly, this was my second bottle ordered in many months. And I live in Canada. With exchange, shipping etc I would have to sell a bottle for near $200 to make a profit for my so called "addiction" lol. I don't see anyone in their right mind paying that. Theory proven false.

    I did contact two people in the beginning. I have not hidden this as there is no need to. I replied to the receipt email of the order and mike himself. Not so odd especially considering there is no real, working website. Not to order anyway. Just an email address (appears there is as of today). Plus my issue was with shipping, not mike. Despite the issues I like the product. Won't disparage it one bit.

    Mike said to deal with the ship central email address about the issue so I did. But I also contacted mike about ordering. Again not so odd as that's the only way to purchase and like I said it's a good product and was interested in more but I also wanted to get my original order so I kept in contact with ship central as well.

    I was never sent tracking info, just a receipt email. When I inquired where my order was I was finally given a tracking number that showed delivered. I remembered that order because I wasn't home at time of delivery so had to drive to Canada post to pick it up. It was a musclegelz product. I did receive the musclegelz product contrary to mikes message. I checked my reciept for the musclegelz and the tracking number was the same as the one sent for the soma order. Clearly many companies use Ship Central for their shipping, therefore issues like this can arise. I have the emails to prove they sent me one tracking number for two different orders, from two different companies. Tried to explain the confusion and I get called a liar. Since I have provided the emails as proof, I have not heard back.

    Again, this could have been rectified easily. I provided proof of the error. Seller should recognize the error and make an attempt to correct it. Again, Mike makes great products but there was clearly a mistake made here. Hard to deny when proof has been provided. Ive had plenty of positive experiences purchasing from vendors here (OL, BLR, PES, etc as well as with individuals privately) and no issues on either end.

    Anyway, no interest in an online argument nor do I want to put down Mikes company. It could have been handled better on my end as well. But I felt the need to clear the air and show that I am not a liar as stated. Im glad your site is back up and running and wish you all the best.
    Last edited by ironkill; 10-11-2017 at 01:11 PM. Reason: error in text
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  6. It is possible that all the items were shipped in one package as the SHIP CENTRAL outfit does have this option, though it is primarliy used in INT situations more so them domestic.

    The best way to verify this is simply to check the weight of the package. Both MA and Ironkill can do this. That would prove what IronKill got..indisputably. I have had to do this before with my store GYMnTONIC because I have had people try and scam me and say I did not send all their units. I would never ever rip someone off. So I have had to utilize this method and I take digital pictures of any order over $100 dollars as proof as well. You would be surprised how many dirtbags try to rip off legit supp companies (not saying this about you Ironkill)

    MuscleGELZ products are sent all the time in the same mailing process, so we know the weight of what 1 unit or 2 or 4, or 10 would be.

    Now with that being said, I know MA nor MuscleGELZ would ever intentionally rip someone off. Could it have been an error, especially last month? Sure it could have been. So I think both @Mikearnold and Ironkill can consider this?

    Rather then argue, why not just resolve? If the weight shows that the SOMA was not in that same package, then MA can resend. It the weight shows that the SOMA was in that package, then @ironkill you have to be ready to take that responsibility and admit that you have it.

    Trying to be as neutral and respectful as possible. I of course highly respect Mike and IronKill and I have always been on good terms. I wish to see this turn out with a positive ending.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    It is possible that all the items were shipped in one package as the SHIP CENTRAL outfit does have this option, though it is primarliy used in INT situations more so them domestic.

    The best way to verify this is simply to check the weight of the package. Both MA and Ironkill can do this. That would prove what IronKill got..indisputably.

    MuscleGELZ products are sent all the time in the same mailing process, so we know the weight of what 1 unit or 2 or 4, or 10 would be.

    Now with that being said, I know MA nor MuscleGELZ would ever intentionally rip someone off. Could it have been an error, especially last month? Sure it could have been. So I think both @Mikearnold and Ironkill can consider this?

    Rather then argue, why not just resolve? If the weight shows that the SOMA was not in that same package, then MA can resend. It the weight shows that the SOMA was in that package, then @ironkill you have to be ready to take that responsibility and admit that you have it.

    Trying to be as neutral and respectful as possible. I of course highly respect Mike and IronKill and I have always been on good terms. I wish to see this turn out with a positive ending.
    Gena and I sorted it out. They were shipped separately and I was mistakenly given the wrong tracking info. Gena was apologetic and very helpful working through this. I would never be out to rip off individuals. I prefer to have a good standing among this community. I'm currently waiting on the soma and did receive the musclegelz a month ago. Been enjoying it. Thanks Wesley. Mike also puts out great products.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ironkill View Post
    Gena and I sorted it out. They were shipped separately and I was mistakenly given the wrong tracking info. Gena was apologetic and very helpful working through this. I would never be out to rip off individuals. I prefer to have a good standing among this community. I'm currently waiting on the soma and did receive the musclegelz a month ago. Been enjoying it. Thanks Wesley. Mike also puts out great products.
    Good deal glad you got it all sorted out man.

    On another note my package Vicaine pm hit as well today, it's great that Ma Labs website is up and running again. @Mike Arnold did outstanding under the circumstances.
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  9. Turned a guy at my gym onto this about 6 weeks ago. spoke to him last night. he is loving it. @Mike Arnold he had a question. he told me has read a few times that he should probably start taking this 5 day on and 2 off now that he has been taking it for about 6 weeks?
    Any reason for this?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Studhorse View Post
    Turned a guy at my gym onto this about 6 weeks ago. spoke to him last night. he is loving it. @Mike Arnold he had a question. he told me has read a few times that he should probably start taking this 5 day on and 2 off now that he has been taking it for about 6 weeks?
    Any reason for this?
    Yeah, it says on the bottle not to use more than 4 days per week. There are a few reason for this. One, you can build a tolerance to the product (just like most things), so its effects will begin to diminish with daily, long-term use. Two, it can potentially cause physical dependence. While user feedback has shown this is not an issue, the potential remains. Now, there have been plenty of people who have reported using it at 3 caps daily (maximum recommended dose) for 4-6 week straight and they were fine when they went off, but in my opinion, it is better to be safe than sorry. The people that need to worry are those who start using it multiple times daily, in excess of the recommended dose, on a daily basis.

    Your friend would do well to take a week off and allow his body to re-sensitize.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    Yeah, it says on the bottle not to use more than 4 days per week. There are a few reason for this. One, you can build a tolerance to the product (just like most things), so its effects will begin to diminish with daily, long-term use. Two, it can potentially cause physical dependence. While user feedback has shown this is not an issue, the potential remains. Now, there have been plenty of people who have reported using it at 3 caps daily (maximum recommended dose) for 4-6 week straight and they were fine when they went off, but in my opinion, it is better to be safe than sorry. The people that need to worry are those who start using it multiple times daily, in excess of the recommended dose, on a daily basis.

    Your friend would do well to take a week off and allow his body to re-sensitize.
    Thanks brother!
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  12. I apologize if this is a stupid question but it concerns the dose of copper in somatozine. Assuming my understanding is correct, the label lists magnesium glycinate as 20% of 225 mg (so 45 mg of elemental magnesium per capsule) and zinc orotate as 15% of 15 mg (or 2.25 mg per capsule)...what is the percentage of elemental copper in copper glycinate? No percentage is listed on the label. Thanks.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    Yeah, it says on the bottle not to use more than 4 days per week. There are a few reason for this. One, you can build a tolerance to the product (just like most things), so its effects will begin to diminish with daily, long-term use. Two, it can potentially cause physical dependence. While user feedback has shown this is not an issue, the potential remains. Now, there have been plenty of people who have reported using it at 3 caps daily (maximum recommended dose) for 4-6 week straight and they were fine when they went off, but in my opinion, it is better to be safe than sorry. The people that need to worry are those who start using it multiple times daily, in excess of the recommended dose, on a daily basis.

    Your friend would do well to take a week off and allow his body to re-sensitize.
    @Mike Arnold another question. He told me last night that he was taking a week off and then going to 4 times a week.
    he takes 2ea. before bed.
    How many weeks at this dosing protocol before he should take time off? and how long to stop taking before starting again?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Studhorse View Post
    @Mike Arnold another question. He told me last night that he was taking a week off and then going to 4 times a week.
    he takes 2ea. before bed.
    How many weeks at this dosing protocol before he should take time off? and how long to stop taking before starting again?
    4X a week? He doesn't need time off at that dosing frequency.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    I apologize if this is a stupid question but it concerns the dose of copper in somatozine. Assuming my understanding is correct, the label lists magnesium glycinate as 20% of 225 mg (so 45 mg of elemental magnesium per capsule) and zinc orotate as 15% of 15 mg (or 2.25 mg per capsule)...what is the percentage of elemental copper in copper glycinate? No percentage is listed on the label. Thanks.
    No clue, buddy. I selected the glycinates and orotates because they are the most effective...and I selected the doses based on the available research, but I do not know the breakdown of the glycinate copper ratio. Sorry.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    4X a week? He doesn't need time off at that dosing frequency.
    Thanks!
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