MMV2 and Furazadrol

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    man, i have to give you credit, that is one of the best constructive criticize posts ive read on here. i know i am taking a beating on the 11-oxo v 11-test. i just want to be clear, i am a fan of 11oxo. what i suggested was using both to make it more economical.
    Right. I'm actually combining the two. I'll be taking 150mg of 11-oxo, and 200mg of 11-test.

    grazidi, I appreciate your suggestions, but rest assured that I've researched this extensively prior to making any plans. 11-oxo has been shown to be very effective at reducing fat and hardening muscles, as has furazadrol, and there are a number of threads citing the two as a synergistic combination on a cut. Likewise, MMV2 is only to be pulsed pre-workout on workout days, and has a great reputation for hardening muscle and providing strong pumps and strength increases. It's getting rave reviews as a pre-worjout ph, which is how I'm employing it here.

    Finally, from your statement in regards to my taking 5 compounds, I'm sure takes into account the Venom and Napalm, both of which are fat burners. As far as phs, it's only 3 (11-oxo and 11-test are both adrenosterone), and one gets pulsed. I'm not so concerned about which is doing the most, I'm more concerned about getting the best combined effect, and not so much which compound pulled the most weight.

    Again, I do appreciate your input. Please don't mistake my clarification of my plan as me forming an argument against your comments. I just wanted to explain my reasoning. But I think there's a lot of merit to the points you make, and it's generally good advice.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Right. I'm actually combining the two. I'll be taking 150mg of 11-oxo, and 200mg of 11-test.

    grazidi, I appreciate your suggestions, but rest assured that I've researched this extensively prior to making any plans. 11-oxo has been shown to be very effective at reducing fat and hardening muscles, as has furazadrol, and there are a number of threads citing the two as a synergistic combination on a cut. Likewise, MMV2 is only to be pulsed pre-workout on workout days, and has a great reputation for hardening muscle and providing strong pumps and strength increases. It's getting rave reviews as a pre-worjout ph, which is how I'm employing it here.

    Finally, from your statement in regards to my taking 5 compounds, I'm sure takes into account the Venom and Napalm, both of which are fat burners. As far as phs, it's only 3 (11-oxo and 11-test are both adrenosterone), and one gets pulsed. I'm not so concerned about which is doing the most, I'm more concerned about getting the best combined effect, and not so much which compound pulled the most weight.

    Again, I do appreciate your input. Please don't mistake my clarification of my plan as me forming an argument against your comments. I just wanted to explain my reasoning. But I think there's a lot of merit to the points you make, and it's generally good advice.
    yea, i just get concerned when guyz, especially teens just take hella supps at extreme dosages with no education on the drug. then stuff happens that cause the government to ban products. so u understand my point, it was not necisarily directed at anyone specific, cause i dont know any of u. just food for thought, nothing but luv, do your thang
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    I'm actually kicking around the idea of doing this same stack for 3 weeks, but with the addition of 11-oxo, which I've read produces dramatic effects on a cut. This would be short and sweet, with minimal sides and little strain on the liver, since none of the 3 are methylated (I know it has "Methyl" right in the name, but it's not anywhere on the nomenclature. Can anyone clear this up?)

    So I'm thinking either:

    Weeks 1 - 3
    MMV2 @ 4 caps e/d
    Furaz @ 150mg e/d (I know, I know...200 or more. But look at everything else in here!)
    11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

    or

    Weeks 1 - 3
    MMV2 @ 3 caps e/d (non-workout days), 6 caps e/d (workout days)
    Furaz @ 150mg e/d (I know, I know...200 or more. But look at everything else in here!)
    11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

    Ooooor

    Weeks 1 & 2
    MMV2 @ 6 caps e/d
    Furaz @ 150mg e/d
    11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

    Week 3
    Furaz @ 150mg e/d
    11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

    I could invert this last one so the MMV2 is on the last 2 weeks instead of th3e first 2. Just thought it might help to kickstart.
    MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

    I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

    On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by grazidi View Post
    yea, i just get concerned when guyz, especially teens just take hella supps at extreme dosages with no education on the drug. then stuff happens that cause the government to ban products. so u understand my point, it was not necisarily directed at anyone specific, cause i dont know any of u. just food for thought, nothing but luv, do your thang
    No, I hear you dude. Again and again, I've advised the younger guys on here the same thing. Have no fear, I'm 30 and pretty well versed!

    Reps to you, dude.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

    I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

    On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.
    PRECISELY what I like to hear!!! Yeah, I'm actually on a pretty high carb diet now, at least for me (taking AP) and will be going immediately into very low carbs (<60g daily), reduced calories, and increased lean proteins for the full 4 weeks.\, plus 3 days HIIT split by two days of 1 hour low-intensity cardio weekly. Hoping it translated into some serious cutting.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    PRECISELY what I like to hear!!! Yeah, I'm actually on a pretty high carb diet now, at least for me (taking AP) and will be going immediately into very low carbs (<60g daily), reduced calories, and increased lean proteins for the full 4 weeks.\, plus 3 days HIIT split by two days of 1 hour low-intensity cardio weekly. Hoping it translated into some serious cutting.
    You will do very well if you keep everything else dialed in.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    You will do very well if you keep everything else dialed in.
    Thanks man, I intend to. I'll let you guys know when I start up.

  8. Yo, bigt, f.o.g., I've got a question for you. You guys have any recommendation on the dosing times of the 11-oxo? I know the furazadrol says to take it spread throughout the day, and for best results to take one dose before bed. But I think I read just the opposite about the 11-oxo, though I can't quite remember.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Yo, bigt, f.o.g., I've got a question for you. You guys have any recommendation on the dosing times of the 11-oxo? I know the furazadrol says to take it spread throughout the day, and for best results to take one dose before bed. But I think I read just the opposite about the 11-oxo, though I can't quite remember.
    according to ergopharm taking doses at night time will prevent morning woodies. i decided it was best not to.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

    I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

    On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.
    FOG, have you ever just run Furaz solo?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    according to ergopharm taking doses at night time will prevent morning woodies. i decided it was best not to.
    Morning and early afternoon it is, then. Thanks dude!

  12. Damnit....as I near the beginning of Day 1, I've just been reading too many good things about 11-oxo at a megadose. So I broke down and bought another bottle. Now I have 2 bottles furazadrol, 2 bottles 11-oxo, 2 bottles 11-test and a bottle of MMV2. How did THAT happen?

    Oh well...should be a fun cycle!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Damnit....as I near the beginning of Day 1, I've just been reading too many good things about 11-oxo at a megadose. So I broke down and bought another bottle. Now I have 2 bottles furazadrol, 2 bottles 11-oxo, 2 bottles 11-test and a bottle of MMV2. How did THAT happen?

    Oh well...should be a fun cycle!


    Gotta love how that happens sometimes.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post


    Gotta love how that happens sometimes.
    That's what happens when you start the roundup too early! You end up with a stockpile.

  15. Well, the new log's up and running! I pm'ed some of you, but here it is for anyone I missed.

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...ck-summer.html

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Well, the new log's up and running! I pm'ed some of you, but here it is for anyone I missed.

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle...ck-summer.html
    I didnt get a PM you sum-a-ma-*****! haha its all good. I am curious of your results.

    Oh and about the stash...yea I built mine up about 3 years ago and am just getting rid of that last of it.....Im done with that..................I think
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I didnt get a PM you sum-a-ma-*****! haha its all good. I am curious of your results.

    Oh and about the stash...yea I built mine up about 3 years ago and am just getting rid of that last of it.....Im done with that..................I think
    Dammit!!!! Sorry bro! But definitely come check it!

    hmm...you don't look convinced. any chance you might be popping open the freezer for a morning waffle and turn up a bottle of original SD? 'Cuz I hate it when that happends!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Dammit!!!! Sorry bro! But definitely come check it!

    hmm...you don't look convinced. any chance you might be popping open the freezer for a morning waffle and turn up a bottle of original SD? 'Cuz I hate it when that happends!!!
    Yea now being under NCAA ruleing I can't touch anything AAS related. I am subject to year round random testing so better safe than sorry. I could get a quick 4 weeker of MMv2 in since it clears in 3 weeks and I have until spet 1 til im subject to testing so

    Just recently it was GL M-TRN. Im waiting on a buyer/trader. I think I only have 2 more sealed bottles of other goodies.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Yea now being under NCAA ruleing I can't touch anything AAS related. I am subject to year round random testing so better safe than sorry. I could get a quick 4 weeker of MMv2 in since it clears in 3 weeks and I have until spet 1 til im subject to testing so

    Just recently it was GL M-TRN. Im waiting on a buyer/trader. I think I only have 2 more sealed bottles of other goodies.
    Holy SH!T!!! You turned up a bottle of Mega-TRN??? After 2 cycles, I'm all done wiht that compound, but TG might be interested, though he is eating some on this cycle right now.

    You don't happen to have any more GL products stashed away, do you??? I love generic labz...but you just can't find any of the good ones anymore.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Holy SH!T!!! You turned up a bottle of Mega-TRN??? After 2 cycles, I'm all done wiht that compound, but TG might be interested, though he is eating some on this cycle right now.

    You don't happen to have any more GL products stashed away, do you??? I love generic labz...but you just can't find any of the good ones anymore.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  21. First time running MMV2, but I've gone back and forth with my dosing method...

    I'm reading in several different places that its best used pre-workout, as in the entire 3-6 cap dosage. I've never ran a PH/DS in that manner, so I guess that's only what makes me hesistate for a moment. I'm stuck between running it spaced out for an entire 4 week cycle, or just using it pre-workout. I have two bottles on hand, and I'm going to have some fun stacking it with T-Roid @ 60/90/90/90 w/ Dermacrine on top.

    Is MMV2 optimal when spaced out, but just more enonomic friendly when only dosed pre-workout? I was thinking 3 pre-workout, and 1-3 caps (building up) throughout the day. The pre-workout kick does sound appealing, but the results, the strength and fat loss attributes, are what I'm aiming for.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    First time running MMV2, but I've gone back and forth with my dosing method...

    I'm reading in several different places that its best used pre-workout, as in the entire 3-6 cap dosage. I've never ran a PH/DS in that manner, so I guess that's only what makes me hesistate for a moment. I'm stuck between running it spaced out for an entire 4 week cycle, or just using it pre-workout. I have two bottles on hand, and I'm going to have some fun stacking it with T-Roid @ 60/90/90/90 w/ Dermacrine on top.

    Is MMV2 optimal when spaced out, but just more enonomic friendly when only dosed pre-workout? I was thinking 3 pre-workout, and 1-3 caps (building up) throughout the day. The pre-workout kick does sound appealing, but the results, the strength and fat loss attributes, are what I'm aiming for.
    Do not run Dermacrine with T-Roid. It will cause more problems than its worth.

  23. Do you have to worry about your hairline with 11 oxo or furzadrol?
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