MMV2 and Furazadrol

[ThisGuy2]

go for it. hey ive heard good things about receptor, if it works as well as ive heard it will help increase results on the lower dosing. i am going to try it on my next cycle. you are going to like the mmv2 pre workout, guaranteed.

Sorry, but which do you mean works well at the lower dosing, the 11-oxo?

Thanks!

[thebigt]

Sorry, but which do you mean works well at the lower dosing, the 11-oxo?

Thanks!

the 11oxo/11-test you laid out in previous post looks great. it was the furazadrol i was refering to. the receptor might help there. i have never tried it but thundergod really liked it, and he wouldn't bs me. he added it mid cycle i think and said he could tell a significant difference. with a recommendation that good it is definately worth a shot.

[ThisGuy2]

the 11oxo/11-test you laid out in previous post looks great. it was the furazadrol i was refering to. the receptor might help there. i have never tried it but thundergod really liked it, and he wouldn't bs me. he added it mid cycle i think and said he could tell a significant difference. with a recommendation that good it is definately worth a shot.

Really? I'm gonna talk to him about it. He actually turned me on to MMV2, which I'll be trying for the first time in this cycle, but he didn't mention Receptor. Thanks man!

I'm thinking the best way for me to run is going to be the front load of furaz at 250, then 200/200/150, and just run the 11-oxo/11-test (which seem to be pretty fast acting) combined at caps ed each for weeks 2-4...and of course MMV2 on workout days.

[grazidi]

Really? I'm gonna talk to him about it. He actually turned me on to MMV2, which I'll be trying for the first time in this cycle, but he didn't mention Receptor. Thanks man!


I'm thinking the best way for me to run is going to be the front load of furaz at 250, then 200/200/150, and just run the 11-oxo/11-test (which seem to be pretty fast acting) combined at caps ed each for weeks 2-4...and of course MMV2 on workout days.

TO WHOEVER IT MAIN CONCERN:
im not one to give advice unless asked. but i have to say something. check all compounds u r going to take. Ex: 11 oxo is dosed at a higher mg than 11 test. i understand u want to save money. i am with u on that. but check mg and how many caps u have to take. really compare it to 11 test. also keep it mind of the company. i care more about the quality of a compound over how many mgs it is. all these things come into play. the last thing that strikes me is the dosages. u r taking such high dosages that may be a wayste. also, how will u know what product works and what it is doing TO YOUR BODY if u r stacking 5 different products. i hope this makes sense. i got nothing but love for anyone who is into the sport of bodybuilding. take what i say like a grain of salt, it will not effect me and my training. remember its a 24 hr job and diet/ training/rest need to be in order before any product will aid in your goals. much luv homeboyz

[thebigt]

TO WHOEVER IT MAIN CONCERN:
im not one to give advice unless asked. but i have to say something. check all compounds u r going to take. Ex: 11 oxo is dosed at a higher mg than 11 test. i understand u want to save money. i am with u on that. but check mg and how many caps u have to take. really compare it to 11 test. also keep it mind of the company. i care more about the quality of a compound over how many mgs it is. all these things come into play. the last thing that strikes me is the dosages. u r taking such high dosages that may be a wayste. also, how will u know what product works and what it is doing TO YOUR BODY if u r stacking 5 different products. i hope this makes sense. i got nothing but love for anyone who is into the sport of bodybuilding. take what i say like a grain of salt, it will not effect me and my training. remember its a 24 hr job and diet/ training/rest need to be in order before any product will aid in your goals. much luv homeboyz

man, i have to give you credit, that is one of the best constructive criticize posts ive read on here. i know i am taking a beating on the 11-oxo v 11-test. i just want to be clear, i am a fan of 11oxo. what i suggested was using both to make it more economical.

[ThisGuy2]

man, i have to give you credit, that is one of the best constructive criticize posts ive read on here. i know i am taking a beating on the 11-oxo v 11-test. i just want to be clear, i am a fan of 11oxo. what i suggested was using both to make it more economical.

Right. I'm actually combining the two. I'll be taking 150mg of 11-oxo, and 200mg of 11-test.

grazidi, I appreciate your suggestions, but rest assured that I've researched this extensively prior to making any plans. 11-oxo has been shown to be very effective at reducing fat and hardening muscles, as has furazadrol, and there are a number of threads citing the two as a synergistic combination on a cut. Likewise, MMV2 is only to be pulsed pre-workout on workout days, and has a great reputation for hardening muscle and providing strong pumps and strength increases. It's getting rave reviews as a pre-worjout ph, which is how I'm employing it here.

Finally, from your statement in regards to my taking 5 compounds, I'm sure takes into account the Venom and Napalm, both of which are fat burners. As far as phs, it's only 3 (11-oxo and 11-test are both adrenosterone), and one gets pulsed. I'm not so concerned about which is doing the most, I'm more concerned about getting the best combined effect, and not so much which compound pulled the most weight.

Again, I do appreciate your input. Please don't mistake my clarification of my plan as me forming an argument against your comments. I just wanted to explain my reasoning. But I think there's a lot of merit to the points you make, and it's generally good advice.

[grazidi]

Right. I'm actually combining the two. I'll be taking 150mg of 11-oxo, and 200mg of 11-test.

grazidi, I appreciate your suggestions, but rest assured that I've researched this extensively prior to making any plans. 11-oxo has been shown to be very effective at reducing fat and hardening muscles, as has furazadrol, and there are a number of threads citing the two as a synergistic combination on a cut. Likewise, MMV2 is only to be pulsed pre-workout on workout days, and has a great reputation for hardening muscle and providing strong pumps and strength increases. It's getting rave reviews as a pre-worjout ph, which is how I'm employing it here.

Finally, from your statement in regards to my taking 5 compounds, I'm sure takes into account the Venom and Napalm, both of which are fat burners. As far as phs, it's only 3 (11-oxo and 11-test are both adrenosterone), and one gets pulsed. I'm not so concerned about which is doing the most, I'm more concerned about getting the best combined effect, and not so much which compound pulled the most weight.

Again, I do appreciate your input. Please don't mistake my clarification of my plan as me forming an argument against your comments. I just wanted to explain my reasoning. But I think there's a lot of merit to the points you make, and it's generally good advice.

yea, i just get concerned when guyz, especially teens just take hella supps at extreme dosages with no education on the drug. then stuff happens that cause the government to ban products. so u understand my point, it was not necisarily directed at anyone specific, cause i dont know any of u. just food for thought, nothing but luv, do your thang

[Force of Green]

I'm actually kicking around the idea of doing this same stack for 3 weeks, but with the addition of 11-oxo, which I've read produces dramatic effects on a cut. This would be short and sweet, with minimal sides and little strain on the liver, since none of the 3 are methylated (I know it has "Methyl" right in the name, but it's not anywhere on the nomenclature. Can anyone clear this up?)

So I'm thinking either:

Weeks 1 - 3
MMV2 @ 4 caps e/d
Furaz @ 150mg e/d (I know, I know...200 or more. But look at everything else in here!)
11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

or

Weeks 1 - 3
MMV2 @ 3 caps e/d (non-workout days), 6 caps e/d (workout days)
Furaz @ 150mg e/d (I know, I know...200 or more. But look at everything else in here!)
11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

Ooooor

Weeks 1 & 2
MMV2 @ 6 caps e/d
Furaz @ 150mg e/d
11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

Week 3
Furaz @ 150mg e/d
11-oxo @ 225mg e/d

I could invert this last one so the MMV2 is on the last 2 weeks instead of th3e first 2. Just thought it might help to kickstart.

MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.

[ThisGuy2]

yea, i just get concerned when guyz, especially teens just take hella supps at extreme dosages with no education on the drug. then stuff happens that cause the government to ban products. so u understand my point, it was not necisarily directed at anyone specific, cause i dont know any of u. just food for thought, nothing but luv, do your thang

No, I hear you dude. Again and again, I've advised the younger guys on here the same thing. Have no fear, I'm 30 and pretty well versed!

Reps to you, dude.

[ThisGuy2]

MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.

PRECISELY what I like to hear!!! Yeah, I'm actually on a pretty high carb diet now, at least for me (taking AP) and will be going immediately into very low carbs (<60g daily), reduced calories, and increased lean proteins for the full 4 weeks.\, plus 3 days HIIT split by two days of 1 hour low-intensity cardio weekly. Hoping it translated into some serious cutting.

[Force of Green]

PRECISELY what I like to hear!!! Yeah, I'm actually on a pretty high carb diet now, at least for me (taking AP) and will be going immediately into very low carbs (<60g daily), reduced calories, and increased lean proteins for the full 4 weeks.\, plus 3 days HIIT split by two days of 1 hour low-intensity cardio weekly. Hoping it translated into some serious cutting.

You will do very well if you keep everything else dialed in.

[ThisGuy2]

You will do very well if you keep everything else dialed in.

Thanks man, I intend to. I'll let you guys know when I start up.

[ThisGuy2]

Yo, bigt, f.o.g., I've got a question for you. You guys have any recommendation on the dosing times of the 11-oxo? I know the furazadrol says to take it spread throughout the day, and for best results to take one dose before bed. But I think I read just the opposite about the 11-oxo, though I can't quite remember.

[thebigt]

Yo, bigt, f.o.g., I've got a question for you. You guys have any recommendation on the dosing times of the 11-oxo? I know the furazadrol says to take it spread throughout the day, and for best results to take one dose before bed. But I think I read just the opposite about the 11-oxo, though I can't quite remember.

according to ergopharm taking doses at night time will prevent morning woodies. i decided it was best not to.

[Good Shepherd]

MMV2 is a nice product... I don't think it really suppresses much at all. You could probably stack a test booster with it and it won't cause any suppression what-so-ever.

I'm currently finishing out 11-OXO and Furaz along with H-Drol. 11-OXO is great for mood, libido, clarity, and is superb for ridding stubborn fat and hardening muscle. Furaz will shred the living sh*t out of you if everything is on point. Most PH/PS(s) available are very underdosed (not saying they're not good) and if you know what the presciption grade steroid feels like in comparison to the designer, you'll know exactly what I mean. For example, Halodrol (H-Drol) supposedly converts to turinabol @ about 16%. H-Drol works for some and some say it doesn't. This isn't the case. It's damned underdosed and requires about 200mg to get an effect concurrent with T-Bol.

On a different note, 6 caps of MMV2 felt good and got the job done.

FOG, have you ever just run Furaz solo?

[ThisGuy2]

according to ergopharm taking doses at night time will prevent morning woodies. i decided it was best not to.

Morning and early afternoon it is, then. Thanks dude!

[ThisGuy2]

Damnit....as I near the beginning of Day 1, I've just been reading too many good things about 11-oxo at a megadose. So I broke down and bought another bottle. Now I have 2 bottles furazadrol, 2 bottles 11-oxo, 2 bottles 11-test and a bottle of MMV2. How did THAT happen?

Oh well...should be a fun cycle!

[Distilled Water]

Damnit....as I near the beginning of Day 1, I've just been reading too many good things about 11-oxo at a megadose. So I broke down and bought another bottle. Now I have 2 bottles furazadrol, 2 bottles 11-oxo, 2 bottles 11-test and a bottle of MMV2. How did THAT happen?

Oh well...should be a fun cycle!

Gotta love how that happens sometimes.

[ThisGuy2]

Gotta love how that happens sometimes.

That's what happens when you start the roundup too early! You end up with a stockpile.

[ThisGuy2]

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