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  1. M5aa was better than MDHT. Most people found it superior and quite honestly it makes total sense. 3aHSD is overexpressed in the muscle, so it would make total sense to see M5aA do better than MDHT for muscle growth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    M5aa was better than MDHT. Most people found it superior and quite honestly it makes total sense. 3aHSD is overexpressed in the muscle, so it would make total sense to see M5aA do better than MDHT for muscle growth...
    Well, I was actually under the impression that neither caused very much muscle growth at all. More muscle-hardening and defining than anything else. That's why both are mostly used only pre-workout. They're only androgenic mostly. And they're almost always combined with an anabolic compound for muscle growth to occur. So, running a compound like superdrol and using either M-5AA, MDHT, or MMV2 for pre-workout focus and aggressiong seems to be our best option. Next cycle I go on, (looking like late MAY) I'm gonna combine some MDHT and MMV2 both pre-workout and get ready for a wild ride!! I wished I had some M-5AA, but cannot find it anywhere. And believe me, I've looked hard over the last few months. But I do have 2 bottles of Primaforce MethylRage (MDHT) that I will put to use. And of course, I'll be ordering some more MMV2 to go along with it!!
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  3. I think the combination of the two should really smoke... The enzyme competition should really help the stack.

    MDHT, M5aA and 5aA should best be stacked with something wetter like maybe Methyl 1,4 or possibly Pheraplex.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    I think the combination of the two should really smoke... The enzyme competition should really help the stack.

    MDHT, M5aA and 5aA should best be stacked with something wetter like maybe Methyl 1,4 or possibly Pheraplex.
    I'm planning on a M 1,4, Halo, MMv2 stack down the road......:dl:

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jasonschaffin View Post
    I'm planning on a M 1,4, Halo, MMv2 stack down the road......:dl:
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    actually sounds good. I have to decide how Im going to use my bottle..... I have my most recent cycle already set and its already fairly comprehensive and set for max compound synergy.... but my next cycle after is still wide open for construction and I think MMV2 will be playing a big part in that one with all the great feedback.
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    Well, I'm planning something in my next stack very much like the M1,4ADD you guys are speaking of. Mine is the old D-Bol!! I got them for "research" reasons for my gerbil, but the damn thing doesn't seem to like them. So, I guess I'll have to dispose of them in a "proper" way. In that stack will also be some superdrol and a little epi, should be the bomb. Pre-workout fire-power will include a combo of MDHT and MMV2!! And I WILL log it!! You can officially call me--- CRAZY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonschaffin View Post
    I'm planning on a M 1,4, Halo, MMv2 stack down the road......:dl:
    Toss in some of that precious M-5AA you got there Jason!! Make that stack really smoke!! That stack sounds really good. You have the M1,4 ADD which converts to D-Bol. You have your Halo which either converts to, or is, the same as oral Turinabol. You have your old Androstane M-5AA which converts to MDHT. And you have the new-age Androstane MMV2 which is 2 steps from DHT, so I think you have synergy going on strong!! Either log this thing, or I'm gonna PM you to death in order to stay informed on the results of this one. I may try it out later in the year. I got practically all the same gear as you Jason. We can learn from each other's experiments. We're in for fun times ahead!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    lies.....






    actually sounds good. I have to decide how Im going to use my bottle..... I have my most recent cycle already set and its already fairly comprehensive and set for max compound synergy.... but my next cycle after is still wide open for construction and I think MMV2 will be playing a big part in that one with all the great feedback.
    Any hints on what this cycle that is already set up is Poopy? You've pricked my curiosity. And as far as your next one goes, I think you would really enjoy the addition of MMV2 with it. This is the beginning of day 5 for me, and it's starting to kick like a 3-legged ninja!!:bruce2:
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    I think the combination of the two should really smoke... The enzyme competition should really help the stack.

    MDHT, M5aA and 5aA should best be stacked with something wetter like maybe Methyl 1,4 or possibly Pheraplex.
    Any of your currently available products go well with M1,4?

    I don't have any MDHT or M5aA around and think that this winter i'll be doing a clean bulk
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Toss in some of that precious M-5AA you got there Jason!! Make that stack really smoke!! That stack sounds really good. You have the M1,4 ADD which converts to D-Bol. You have your Halo which either converts to, or is, the same as oral Turinabol. You have your old Androstane M-5AA which converts to MDHT. And you have the new-age Androstane MMV2 which is 2 steps from DHT, so I think you have synergy going on strong!! Either log this thing, or I'm gonna PM you to death in order to stay informed on the results of this one. I may try it out later in the year. I got practically all the same gear as you Jason. We can learn from each other's experiments. We're in for fun times ahead!!
    I'll definately let you know. It may be awhile though till I run it. The TST/TRN is first, then thinking I'll pry try a 1T/4ad transdermal over the fall/winter. Might add some other goodies to that as I have to much just sitting around. That plan is still in the works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonschaffin View Post
    I'll definately let you know. It may be awhile though till I run it. The TST/TRN is first, then thinking I'll pry try a 1T/4ad transdermal over the fall/winter. Might add some other goodies to that as I have to much just sitting around. That plan is still in the works.
    Good deal man. You will love that TRN/TST combo. You still might want to break out some of that M-5AA for this one too. And maybe also some of this MMV2. Good luck with it.

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    you mentioned that you have been working out for 20+ years ? How long have you been in the designers game for ?
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    DAY 5--- Just got finished with my chest and triceps. WHOA!! Outta sight!! A few numbers: Flat Bench:280 for 12 reps!! Incline Bench: 240 for 12 reps. These both were hard but still this is the best since I tore my right pec 15 months ago! Pec Deck: 150 for 15 reps. Cable Crossovers: 60 lbs. each side:12 reps. Triceps Cable Pushdowns: 150 for 12 reps. One-Arm Cable Extensions Seated: 50 lbs.: 12 reps. This was a great workout. I can give a true non-placebo report of MMV2 now. It WORKS!! I'm getting pumps and veinage like never before. Thanks LG Sciences for giving me what you got, now I'm giving you what I got. 100% dedication, discipline, and effort. I'm giving my diet and training everything I got to see the full extent of MMV2's capabilities. No *****-footing going on here. I'm not expecting the compound to do everything for me. It won't no matter what compound you're using. I don't care if it's deca, tren, or d-bol for that matter. You've got to do your part. This stuff is working big-time now and I can truly recommend it to others. I haven't even gotten to add the Receptor to it yet (it still hasn't arrived yet) and it will be even better when I do. The next 25 days are gonna be exciting!! I WILL be buying some more of this. I seen a deal on it for $38.95 that comes with a free bottle of IGF-1. Just google and everyone can find it!! Thanks again LG!! THE THUNDERGOD---
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
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    you mentioned that you have been working out for 20+ years ? How long have you been in the designers game for ?
    I am actually a Johnny-come-lately to that area. I tried the andro's of the 90's during 97 and 98 and again in 2000. I used Twinlabs' Andro-Fuel and Pinnacle's Andro-Poppers. It wasn't until 2 years ago that I tried Phera first. Liked it alot. 6 months later I tried Super-Drol. To this day I haven't used anything better or stronger, YET!! I'm getting stronger as I get older it seems, and I'm loving life!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    I think the combination of the two should really smoke... The enzyme competition should really help the stack.

    MDHT, M5aA and 5aA should best be stacked with something wetter like maybe Methyl 1,4 or possibly Pheraplex.
    Hey, I really want to say THANKS!! This stuff is really starting to work now. What a pump. And the veins are bulging!! I'm feeling good!! Form the heart of the Thundergod---
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    Okay, care package number 2 came in a few minutes ago from Legal Gear Sciences. They told me a few days ago they were sending me a bottle of their Receptor to run alongside the MMV2 they sent. They also said they were going to include a new protein they had just came out with for me to try and report on. I thought they meant a sample. But a container came instead. Cool!! I have already taken a serving of Receptor but haven't tried the Lipotropic Whey Protein yet, as I have already drank 2 shakes already today. But I will give it a try this afternoon. All I can say is WOW!! Thanks so very much LG Sciences, you guys rule!!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Well, I'm planning something in my next stack very much like the M1,4ADD you guys are speaking of. Mine is the old D-Bol!! I got them for "research" reasons for my gerbil, but the damn thing doesn't seem to like them. So, I guess I'll have to dispose of them in a "proper" way. In that stack will also be some superdrol and a little epi, should be the bomb. Pre-workout fire-power will include a combo of MDHT and MMV2!! And I WILL log it!! You can officially call me--- CRAZY!!!
    Thunder your a nut brother! As Sick of a stack as that sounds like, it's starting to seem you may (or may not lol) have a serious needle phobia? Why not just pin some cyp and front load the d-bol, old school styles?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Any hints on what this cycle that is already set up is Poopy? You've pricked my curiosity. And as far as your next one goes, I think you would really enjoy the addition of MMV2 with it. This is the beginning of day 5 for me, and it's starting to kick like a 3-legged ninja!!:bruce2:
    --------4-AD-------/---Phera-Plex---/----M-TRN----/-----ADEX---
    1. 300mg (150mg x2)/----------------/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    2. 300mg (150mg x2)/ 10mg (preW.O.)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    3. 300mg (150mg x2)/ 20mg (10mg x2)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    4. 400mg (200mg x2)/ 20mg (10mg x2)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    5. 400mg (200mg x2)/ 30mg (10mg x3)/ 1.5mg (prewo)/--.25mg EOD
    6. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 3mg (1.5 x2) /---as needed
    7. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 3mg (1.5 x2) /---as needed
    8. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 4.5mg (1.5 x3)/--as needed

    and then I was also planning on runnin prostan at 200mg for the first 5 weeks as well..... but I may go the MMV2 route instead and save the prostan or just save the mmv2 havnt decide yet.

    and the 4-AD is in trans by the way and will prob be slightly over dosed then taht since I think I had more powder then what I accounted for in my mg/ml concotion so when I am dosing ~40mg I think Ill really be dosing ~50mg so thats like an extra 75mg or 150mg per day depending on the dose... should be DAMN nice.

    also may not use the Adex at all depending on how well the prsotan keeps things hard and locks the est considering the nature of the DHT comounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hate4TheWeak View Post
    Thunder your a nut brother! As Sick of a stack as that sounds like, it's starting to seem you may (or may not lol) have a serious needle phobia? Why not just pin some cyp and front load the d-bol, old school styles?
    Well, I've never even tried the D-bol before. So, it's not really a needle phobia as much as I've never tried any "illegal" compounds before. I'm 44 years old now and it's hard to get the old dog to try new tricks. But then again, I never tried designers until 2 years ago. So that needle may be looming ahead of me in the near future. I really don't mind it. That route is actually much healthier and safer than the oral designers route anyway. I have definately used the all-natural way to its fullest extent. This way was better than a lot of youngsters are doing today. Working out 6 months (or less) and wanting to jump on the AAS train!! Now that sounds to me!! THE THUNDERGOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    --------4-AD-------/---Phera-Plex---/----M-TRN----/-----ADEX---
    1. 300mg (150mg x2)/----------------/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    2. 300mg (150mg x2)/ 10mg (preW.O.)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    3. 300mg (150mg x2)/ 20mg (10mg x2)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    4. 400mg (200mg x2)/ 20mg (10mg x2)/--------------/--.25mg EOD
    5. 400mg (200mg x2)/ 30mg (10mg x3)/ 1.5mg (prewo)/--.25mg EOD
    6. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 3mg (1.5 x2) /---as needed
    7. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 3mg (1.5 x2) /---as needed
    8. 400mg (200mg x2)/----------------/ 4.5mg (1.5 x3)/--as needed

    and then I was also planning on runnin prostan at 200mg for the first 5 weeks as well..... but I may go the MMV2 route instead and save the prostan or just save the mmv2 havnt decide yet.

    and the 4-AD is in trans by the way and will prob be slightly over dosed then taht since I think I had more powder then what I accounted for in my mg/ml concotion so when I am dosing ~40mg I think Ill really be dosing ~50mg so thats like an extra 75mg or 150mg per day depending on the dose... should be DAMN nice.

    also may not use the Adex at all depending on how well the prsotan keeps things hard and locks the est considering the nature of the DHT comounds.
    That looks very well-planned indeed Poop-Master P!! You probably WILL need that Adex if you don't use the prostan. That phera is gonna cause some bloat. It does with me at least. I've never used 4-AD before either, but from what I've read, it will cause some bloatage as well. So that Adex is starting to look better all the time!! It's a small dosage EOD, so I would include it myself. After you get to the TRN part of the cycle, now the TRN is very dry in my experience. And great for strength! Have fun with that one Poopy!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    Can't wait to start mine should be fun!
    me to, im going to stack it with methyl 1-D, this thread is really making me anxious to start..

  22. Well, how do you like the protein so far?

  23. Yes TG do tell please do tell. How is that protein my friend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalGear View Post
    Well, how do you like the protein so far?
    Very smooth texture and great chocolate taste!! It 's cool that it contains Betaine to increase thermogenesis, because I'm on a cut at this time. So it's perfect for this cycle. Thanks for everything you've guys have done. This is a real pleasure and joy to be part of this. This is day 6 and the MMV2 is kicked in big time! This is the second day of the Receptor which should really boost the efficacy of the MMV2's effects on me and my workouts. Everything that I have to report so far is of a very positive nature. Libido=Good Energy=Great Recovery=Good Strength=Great Also great focus, aggression, and drive for workouts. Skin's a little oily, a little acne, facial hair growing fast, and finger nails seem to be growing fast also. I love the androgenic effects so far!! 2 Thumbs way-up!!

  25. Werd bro! Glad your loving it man!
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  26. I hope mine gets here soon. I am getting impatient

  27. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Well, I've never even tried the D-bol before. So, it's not really a needle phobia as much as I've never tried any "illegal" compounds before. I'm 44 years old now and it's hard to get the old dog to try new tricks. But then again, I never tried designers until 2 years ago. So that needle may be looming ahead of me in the near future. I really don't mind it. That route is actually much healthier and safer than the oral designers route anyway. I have definately used the all-natural way to its fullest extent. This way was better than a lot of youngsters are doing today. Working out 6 months (or less) and wanting to jump on the AAS train!! Now that sounds to me!! THE THUNDERGOD
    I hear ya man. HGH (although extremely pricey) would be awesome for a "more mature" brother considering it's longevity and youthful regenerating effects!
    And I couldn't agree with the last part of your post more! The only thing that pisses me off more than that is when some dude's like: I tried this supp one time it was called like superdrol or something. It was pretty good, I think it has like creatine and something else in it? You ever heard of it? WTF
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    DAY 7--- Now we're taking off!! The MMV2 is fully kicked in by now. The addition of Receptor is starting to manifest itself in ways of greater response at the AR. I'll be getting a lot more out of the MMV2 from here on in. The new Lipotropic Whey Protein from Legal Gear Sciences is delicious. It's perfect for LBM gains only. We don't want a dirty bulk on this cycle. I'm cutting and re-comping this go-around. So it was a perfect addition. I just got finished with Legs and Shoulders. Here's a few highlights from that workout. LEG PRESS: 700 for 8 reps! PR!! LEG EXT.:115 for 15 reps. This feels like 190 at a gym across town I visit sometimes.STANDING ONE-LEGGED LEG CURLS:60 for 14 reps. I can do 200 for 12 reps on the lying leg curls, but I've been doing these 1-legged versions for a couple of months. MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: 175 for 12 reps! PR!! ONE-ARM CABLE SIDE LATERALS:60 for 12 reps! PR!! I knew there was going to be a few PR's(personal records) on this cycle. This was an awesome workout. ALL you people reading this need to honestly consider trying out some MMV2 for yourselves. It works...Bottom Line!!

  29. Sorry Im late to this....Baseball and school have been kickin my butt latley
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  30. If LG doesn't mind you saying, what exactly is in this new lipotropic protein? Sounds interestin, I remember when ALRI came out with some but I never got any as it was short lived and I had stocked up on dymatize whey.
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