What is the best pro-hormone for the average user?
- 07-08-2008, 02:20 PM
- 07-08-2008, 03:29 PM
EpiAndrosterone is in our methyl masterdrol V2. For a single supplement, I would say either 1-Androsterone or Estra 4,9 Dione are the best choices for pure mass (not including the methyl stuff).
- 07-24-2008, 05:45 PM
i just bought some mmv2 and i dont see any mention of that in the supplement facts on the bottle. Is there a kind with and one without it then?
07-24-2008, 06:38 PM
No, we use the nomenclature that is the standard for the industry. Originally, the industry used "andro" based names, but with the whole steroids in baseball and Pat Arnold ruining the industry by making THG, he switched to the etiocholan nomenclature.
07-24-2008, 06:53 PM
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07-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Excuse my lack of knowledge when it comes to chemistry. I'm focused in on the name androsterone here. Where and how exactly would dehydroepiandrosterone come into this picture?
08-05-2008, 01:11 AM
HI Legal Gear I just bought a product called "M-Test Evolution" from BMF Harcore. The back says
1,(5a)-Androstene-17a-Methyl-17B-ol-3-one 15 Mg
What do u think of this product and is their anything i can take with it to prevent me from becoming largethic or have liver or kidney problems. I am very new to taking supplements and any help would be appreciated thanks
08-05-2008, 01:22 AM
08-21-2008, 06:36 PM
09-04-2008, 06:07 PM
So 1-androsterone is better than Ergopharms 1-AD?
How high is the convesation rate to 1-test, because it has to convert in two steps, but he original 1-Ad only had to do one step! Is Advanced Muscle Sciences 1-Androsterone the best Prohormon on the market?
09-05-2008, 04:39 PM
10-20-2008, 05:06 AM
I think the LG post is a top post, it is all so self explanatory. All of these supps are not for the casual novice lifter. Always make a informed choice and applies to anything in life.
10-26-2008, 08:43 PM
10-27-2008, 03:33 PM
I'm planning an Epi/MMv2 run soon. just need to pick up the MMv2 @ nutra!
My main question is about the chemical conversion of both products together?
them both being epi
sure it would seem to have great synergy?
granted one is a ds vs. ph what really is the difference on the conversion process and how it binds to receptors, maybe competing or maybe one not being as affective if taken solo due to this?
Not really sure how to get the question out. any help here?
10-27-2008, 03:46 PM
10-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Well, i will admit. I put on 17lbs from an epi/prop. run last spring. so i'm hoping that the mmv2 will be a bit dryer and the epi does the same for me. Don't tell me why but havoc for me felt dry but I looked wet!
01-02-2009, 01:24 PM
What would you recommend for the PCT after running the ultimate mass stack(1-AD + 4-AD)?
Also, I searched all over for the article you mentioned was coming next for pro hormone doses. Where can I find it?
01-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Im very excited for an M1D, MMv2 cycle in a few week!!!
01-04-2009, 12:49 AM
Its getting closer and closer for me on this run! Been dealin with all kind of issues but still liftin and fightin! Can't wait to try out the mmv2!
How much yohimbe is in a cap vs. One scoop of jacked does anyone know the cap or caps it might be equivalent to? I know one is USP labs but I sure can tell when ive taken jacked!
01-15-2009, 09:08 AM
I am not sure if I should have started a new thread, but this one seems appropriate since I would consider my self an average user.
I have been lifting weights for at least ten years now; however, I lifted a lot more frequently during college. As my job requires me to travel a lot and work 80 - 100 hours some weeks, I do not have as much time to work out as much as I would like.
In the past, I have historically just taken creatine and protein supplements. Occasionally, I have tried other products such as NO-Xplode, but nothing too hardcore. Back in November, a buddy of mine who is really into bodybuilding gave me a bottle of Epistane as he said it worked great for him. Unfortunately, I did not ask enough questions or do enough research. Since November, I have only used it when I would work out, which may have only been a day or two a week. Even then, I typically only took 20mg.
That finally brings me to my question. Due to the current economic environment, my job has slowed down, so I am getting to the gym five days a week. I have spent the past few days reading a lot of information on this board and I am looking to start a cycle of prohormones. Given my lack of truly cycling Epistane, do I need to have a PCT or do I need to take any time off before starting a cycle? I ask on this forum because based on reading a lot of information, it sounds like Methyl 1-D may be a great choice for a beginning cycle. Plus, the LG guys on this board seem to provide invaluable, unbiased information and research.
Thanks in advance for the advice.
01-15-2009, 10:27 AM
Yes, LG's MMv2. or M1D are both good for beginners. just get you some formadrol extreme and possibly some PSarm for PCT
01-16-2009, 10:02 AM
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01-22-2009, 01:10 AM
01-22-2009, 07:45 AM
01-24-2009, 08:06 PM
Im looking to do a stack of 1-Androsterone + 5aEpiAndrosterone for some good strength gains..i already have the sized at 208 and 8% bf, but i want to get stronger and maybe cut the bf down to around 5 or 6...anyone know of two good products to stack that fit the stack i want to run?? help would be great lol
01-25-2009, 02:51 AM
I want to stack 1-andro with either Liquid Masterdrol or MMV2. First, is their a difference between LM and MMV2, and which would you recommend? And second, what dosing would be best for a six week cycle?
This will be my third cycle with LG products. Great stuff!
02-23-2009, 11:13 AM
What about a stack of 1-Androsterone & Methyl Masterdrol V2? Would this be a good stack and what should I use for PCT?
02-23-2009, 02:04 PM
03-09-2009, 01:11 AM
From reading the intial post, and other research it seems that a good cutting stack would be Methyl Masterdrol V2 or Liquid Masterdrol and 11-OXO?
I am 39 years old, weigh 190lbs and have been lifting off and on for the last 10+ years but have been very consistent for the last 3 years. Looking to cut while at least maintain if not gain a little lean mass. My diet, cardio and training are on target but I have been having a difficult time getting that last little bit of fat around the lower abs off.
Any recommendations for dosage, cycle would be appreciated.
03-09-2009, 01:07 PM
well, theres tons of options. depending on your bodyfat% you could go with napalm and MMv2 and levi reloaded. that would be great.
03-10-2009, 01:10 AM
Body Fat is around 11% based on a caliper (never super accurate). I like the idea of Napalm, I have never tried a topical product. I have heard and read mixed reviews on topical products. Any others have thoughts regarding this?
03-10-2009, 02:03 AM
03-11-2009, 10:01 PM
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05-28-2009, 11:53 AM
So this 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione substance is more on the safe side? Just wondering beacuse I can get it for half the price right now. Anyone had any experience with this? Is it worth purchasing?
06-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Just get the X-Tren if you want just the 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione, but if its the 19NorAndrosterone I wouldn't exactly know as much as far as sides or anything.
06-03-2009, 09:19 AM
Yup, it's the same as X-Tren, just another brand. Thanks for the infromation! As far as sides go - anyone like to share experiences?
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06-24-2009, 01:30 AM
I am looking for a good strength gainer but also a cutting hormone, any suggestions, I've read the posts, and 5a-epiAndrosterone was suggested, what supplements have this? thanks
06-25-2009, 05:23 PM
Not exactly sure as O-chem allows many names for one molecule...however, MMv3, Epistane, Havoc.....all these would be considered cutters. Epistane and Havoc are stronger and more harsh(the are methylated), so you would need stronger pct/on-cycle support to run these compounds. All provide excellent strength and dry, lean gains.
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