Started My M1D Andro and 17-Pro Cycle Today!!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ManimalPatB View Post
    Into my second week of PCT (Form XT). I feel great and some of the bloat / puffiness I had gotten over the last week of the 17 has gone away. I have also dropped my protein intake a bit. Trying to lean up a little bit. I am keeping all my strength and just becoming more defined!!!

    GREAT product for someone even to do as a standalone
    I totally agree that's how I felt when I was using it! Great log keep it up.
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  2. I enjoyed reading your log manimal. Your info was helpful. Running my second cycle of ph's here soon. I've decided on lg's epi andro and 17-pro but haven't decided if I want to add one more yet to make it a triple stack or not. I tend to have a very high tolerance for most supps. I know each one can affect one differently but I'm in tune with my body and although I've trained more naturally than not over the decade, I'm still leaning towards adding another one, possibly staggering. Obviously, from the choice of ph's I chose I'm doing a cut. My question is if I decide to throw in another ph to the stack, does anything come to mind? Suggestions are welcome by all. Lastly, let me get this out of the way as its obvious I'm new as a member but I'm not new to training. Diet and training has been in check for a long while, just looking to take it up a notch and see if I can get where I can't naturally. Thanks in advance. Also, glad to hear the form-xt worked out because that's what I'm going to run as my pct as well.
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  3. If it were me, I wouldn't add a different PH, just double up on one of the two you already have. For me I would double the Epi. You could also throw in a non-PH fat burner like C2K or any other out there.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Diestroyer View Post
    I enjoyed reading your log manimal. Your info was helpful. Running my second cycle of ph's here soon. I've decided on lg's epi andro and 17-pro but haven't decided if I want to add one more yet to make it a triple stack or not. I tend to have a very high tolerance for most supps. I know each one can affect one differently but I'm in tune with my body and although I've trained more naturally than not over the decade, I'm still leaning towards adding another one, possibly staggering. Obviously, from the choice of ph's I chose I'm doing a cut. My question is if I decide to throw in another ph to the stack, does anything come to mind? Suggestions are welcome by all. Lastly, let me get this out of the way as its obvious I'm new as a member but I'm not new to training. Diet and training has been in check for a long while, just looking to take it up a notch and see if I can get where I can't naturally. Thanks in advance. Also, glad to hear the form-xt worked out because that's what I'm going to run as my pct as well.

    What I would do is just do the Epi and the 17 MAYBE double up on the 17 like Luke has said. Less is always more and three different PHs at a similar time is really over kill. If you want to lean up, then throw in the C2K for a nice fat burning supplement as well. Or just do the 17 and the EPI

    That is what I would do for NOW and if you have any other questions PLEASE do not hesitate in asking!!!!
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by ManimalPatB View Post

    I'll answer this. I have never used gear. I have done a few runs of PH's and this with LG is one of my select few.

    I trained 25 years NATURALLY before even trying anything.

    Hope this helps out! Remember, there are no bad questions, just CRAZY answers haha
    Whoa 25 years!!! Holy shyt! That's awesome though. So has anyone done a 1ad 17 pro stack? Thinking about doing an 8 week run? Any suggestions? Follow dosing protocols or up the dose? I already have a bomb pct. Any suggestions is always appreciated. Thanks

  6. i recomend you use 1andro and m1d .. Or 17 and epi.. as far as doseing.. whats your PH experience.. always best to use only what it takes and never any moar than that. if your more experienced with phs then upping the dose will work well.. if this is your first time you dont even really need to stack anything.
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  7. I've used M1D black, 11 ketotestosterone, dermacrine, PH 17, formeron(as an AI obviously), sarms S4, GW and ostarine

  8. then by all means dose up on your 1andro.. at higher doses this stuff is quite decent.. at least as good as any sarms s4 or osterine.. its liable to make you sleepy through the day so m1d should help a little with that.
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  9. What dose are people recommending? Also why don't you recommend stacking the 17 pro with the 1 ad? Just curious

  10. ive seen guys running upto a gr a day of 1andro... ( pill form from other companies). so if u consider the better absorbsion its kinda a toss up..
    id run it up as high as possible until the side effects get to be too much then just back her down a tad. the reason i like to see m1d put with this is that they will both work in concert to add strength and size.. 17 is more for maintaining size under a calorie deficit.. you can run it tho, its just something that may or may not add to the effects of 1andro. just to clarify, it wont hurt to use it.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    ive seen guys running upto a gr a day of 1andro... ( pill form from other companies). so if u consider the better absorbsion its kinda a toss up..
    id run it up as high as possible until the side effects get to be too much then just back her down a tad. the reason i like to see m1d put with this is that they will both work in concert to add strength and size.. 17 is more for maintaining size under a calorie deficit.. you can run it tho, its just something that may or may not add to the effects of 1andro. just to clarify, it wont hurt to use it.
    I decided to go with epiandro and 1 andro. I have RS transaderm so ill be using that as a test base. I'm running for 8 weeks, using formeron because of the transaderm and at 4 pumps to get conversion to 4 hydroxytest. Last 4 weeks I'm throwing in 11 ketotestosterone. Should be good. Oh and I'm using HCGgenerate extra strength on cycle and cycle assist

  12. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    I decided to go with epiandro and 1 andro. I have RS transaderm so ill be using that as a test base. I'm running for 8 weeks, using formeron because of the transaderm and at 4 pumps to get conversion to 4 hydroxytest. Last 4 weeks I'm throwing in 11 ketotestosterone. Should be good. Oh and I'm using HCGgenerate extra strength on cycle and cycle assist
    nice, i like what you've outlined, whats the pct?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by steam View Post

    nice, i like what you've outlined, whats the pct?
    I have
    OG Anabeta 6 caps a day(natural anabolic)
    Compound 20(natural anabolic)
    Prototype nutritions 7 spray (for cortisol)
    Primordial Performances TCF 1(DAA)
    Primordial Performances Topical Sustain Alpha(estrogen control)
    Phytoserms 347 from ruthless supplements
    Inhibit p (prolactin control for DAA
    *toremifene and aromasin on hand*

  14. Hey gius i got a quick question, ive never been into body building and all that, but im traying to gain some muscle mass/volume amd i was thinking on trying the M1D since all o read is good stuff about it, again i just want to get a little bigger, this is my forst tome trying prohormones, what do you guys recomend me?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Cubanoloko View Post
    Hey gius i got a quick question, ive never been into body building and all that, but im traying to gain some muscle mass/volume amd i was thinking on trying the M1D since all o read is good stuff about it, again i just want to get a little bigger, this is my forst tome trying prohormones, what do you guys recomend me?
    I myself would recommend the M1D as a starter. It is one of the least harshest that we have in the company and would be a GODO one to use to introduce yourself to pro hormones! Use the M1D and pick up a bottle of Form XT to get more bang for your buck!!!
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  16. Thanks for the reply, my next qiestion is, whats the function of using both together? And by using the M1D andro, would i get body fat? Cuz im traying to cut that.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Cubanoloko View Post
    Thanks for the reply, my next qiestion is, whats the function of using both together? And by using the M1D andro, would i get body fat? Cuz im traying to cut that.
    You would use the FORM XT as a PCT after you run the M1D. If you keep your diet in check you should not gain bodyfat. If you eat burgers and pie then yes, but if you have a clean diet and HARD training you should be fine
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by ManimalPatB View Post
    You would use the FORM XT as a PCT after you run the M1D. If you keep your diet in check you should not gain bodyfat. If you eat burgers and pie then yes, but if you have a clean diet and HARD training you should be fine
    Also you could take the C2K along with your M1D Andro. Very good thermo and will help you lean out and of course you have to have a clean diet to notice the results and keep the gains. EAT CLEAN TRAIN DIRTY!

  19. Hey man I was thinking about running the same cycle as you did the M1D and the 17 for my first ever PH cycle. You ran this for 5 weeks correct? 1 bottle each? Also what would be the benefit of the 17 vs the 1-Andro? But any sides? And did your measurements go up as well?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MAGICBUMM328 View Post
    Hey man I was thinking about running the same cycle as you did the M1D and the 17 for my first ever PH cycle. You ran this for 5 weeks correct? 1 bottle each? Also what would be the benefit of the 17 vs the 1-Andro? But any sides? And did your measurements go up as well?
    Everything went UP, BUT bodyfat did decrease so that is a plus. I ran them at the sametime so it ended up being about 4 to 5 weeks yes. The ONLY reason I did it this way was to get the mass and strength part of the M1D mixed with the strength and hardness factor for the 17. They way it was more of a lean bulk. I was also on restricted calories RATHER than shoving crap in my face
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  21. Hell yes!!

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