I am planning on grabing this stack, what should I expect

**CalvesBrother** · 12-09-2012, 02:53 PM

I was gonna get Sub Sterone and Natadrol to run in January, then t-911 and Formadrol to run in Febuary.

I am currently 6'1 195 about 15%bf, with 1 1/2 year of lifting. (First year was recomp/cutting)

How much strength and mass could I put on with a good diet.

Currently I am bulking trying to gain 1lb per week 500 calories over maintenance. Should I incrase calories in hope of adding more mass, or keep calories and hope for a recomp.

Currently running Layne Norton's PHAT workout.

**Piston Honda** · 12-09-2012, 03:00 PM

Natadrol typically won't be much of a bulker, but you'll probably get a recomp effect even if you're increasing your calories like you've planned.

**xR1pp3Rx** · 12-09-2012, 08:38 PM

this is what we refer to as the NatDstaK this one will help you strength and recovery skyrocket.. maybe a pound or 2 but thats about it.. great for breaking plateaus
i used it on a dirty bulk.. went up 10 pounds in 4 weeks and when i dieted down afterwards.. i kept all my strength and a few lbs.

**CalvesBrother** · 12-09-2012, 10:30 PM

Thanks Ripper would you suggest sub sterone with Natadrol or with the t-911/Formadrol

**hvactech** · 12-09-2012, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by CalvesBrother

Thanks Ripper would you suggest sub sterone with Natadrol or with the t-911/Formadrol

substerone will yield results with extended use. they have better products for bulking but natadrol can stack with alot of them

**CalvesBrother** · 12-09-2012, 11:30 PM

Whats better for bulking MM3 and M1-D. Are there any side effect to any of them?

**hvactech** · 12-10-2012, 10:20 AM

i had good luck with m1d black

**xR1pp3Rx** · 12-10-2012, 11:24 AM

run the Natd and sub first then follow it with the t911/formadrol

also run the natd at 10 caps perday. and the substerone at 3 droppers x 3 times perday.

**Piston Honda** · 12-10-2012, 11:34 AM

@Ripper: any news on Natadrol v2? Will OG Natadrol be phased out, or still available as a different option?

**xR1pp3Rx** · 12-10-2012, 12:10 PM

man i will have to get word on those questions right there.. it been pretty quiet at corp o these last couple of weeks.. it could just mean we have a couple big projects goin or!!>. the logical answere... its the holliday season. alot of people on vacations to see their families and what not. perhaps big mike can share some insider info.

**BigMikeC** · 12-10-2012, 06:48 PM

Big Things to come my friends!

**BigMikeC** · 12-10-2012, 06:51 PM

I ran M1d Black and PH19 and had great results! Gained 11-12lbs or so... MM3 is more for strength and aggression not so much a "bulker" but it will compliment any cycle well..

**MrDead** · 12-10-2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by BigMikeC

Big Things to come my friends!

*All ears...*

**Blergs** · 12-11-2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by CalvesBrother

Whats better for bulking MM3 and M1-D. Are there any side effect to any of them?

M1D for sure Is what i would rec for bulking. LOVE the stuff even on cycle like now (test/omnadrens I just started)

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