Info on NEW M1-D Black

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  1. How much of a surpression is there with this? Is there even any?


  2. Let's put it this way. We just finished up 3 logs on bb.com with experienced older lifters. These guys have 10 years under their belts and are in amazing shape. All 3 subjects gained a legit 3-4lbs of LBM off the Trifecta. Yes, 3-4 L B M on an advanced lifter. That is quite amazing considering the legality of our products. Our DHEA ester works, and works well when paired with MMV. M1-D Black will be even better with the addition of a better delivery system, LCLT, and Phellodendron. Our product is in NO WAY comparable to plain old DHEA from Wal Mart. If you believe that, you seriously have a lack of chem understanding. Or you're just an angry troll. Don't like our products? Sorry. Then don't buy it. Those that do take M1-D Black will have positive experiences if they're diet and training are in check. We're not offering Superdrol here, we're offering FDA compliant formulas that will help you attain your goals. Not many other companies can do that.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by xGenericx View Post
    How much of a surpression is there with this? Is there even any?
    Shouldn't be too much. Although if you run 2 bottles at 8 caps a day like i recommend you deffinitely want to take an AI or something like Activate Xtreme or Triazole or T-911 to kick things back in gear.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by xGenericx View Post
    How much of a surpression is there with this? Is there even any?
    possible mild shutdown but this product is not known to cause extrem shutdown.
    I would rec a mild PCT with it. formadrol for eg.
    LG Sciences Board Rep
    These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by zb126 View Post
    Because the people buying DHEA at walmart likely have very different goals for taking it. Also, for women, DHEA converts preferably to testosterone IIRC and the AI isn't as necessary as men where the preference is estrongen.

    As far as studies go, are you asking to prove DHEA converts to the other hormones or are you asking about the AI's usage or what exactly are you asking about? All the explanations that Eric wrote in that post long ago regarding the ingredients are pretty well accepted and known...a simple PubMed search can confirm them.

    Also, if you look at the price per mg of the stuff in stores its not really that cheap. Throw in an AI etc and the price would be through the roof. If you are looking for dhea with those extras, then LG's product is pretty competitively priced at online retailers.

    I see it as a matter of weighing out the benefits and possible harm of this type of prohormone vs a designer steorid. Sure the gains aren't as crazy but there are a lot of other factors that go into using something like superdrol or halodrol etc. that don't need to be mitigated with this type of supplement or even the AMS or PP products for the most part. And then there is the legality of the different types... these are DSHEA compliant etc. There are a lot of factors going into why you would use this for a cycle or on a cycle of something else so IMO its not as cut and dry as "Ill only gain 6-9lbs on this so superdrol is better cuz i may gain 20 bro"
    GREAT post!
    the M1D is nto JUST some DHEA.
    I love it added to my cycles.
    LG Sciences Board Rep
    These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.
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  6. I cant wait to try the new M1-D Black! I love the old M1-D so will definitely be trying this!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    E-fight?



    I apoligize if my post came off in a hostile manner as that was not my intention although your posting seems to be clearly an attack of a supplement in their own sub-forum but regardless that was not my intention so i apologize if you took it that way

    And to address your points..



    So it is okay to use the chemical name of one compound but not another? And this rule is based of your percieved effectiveness of said product?

    Your issue was the chemical name was used (3beta-Hydroxyandrost-5-Ene-17-One) and not the slang name (DHEA) so my response was do you have the same concern for other prohormones that use the chemical name rather than the proper or slang one?



    M1D is much more than just DHEA.

    The problem with DHEA is that it must undergo two enzymatic conversions to arrive at testosterone and has two chances to aromatize into estrogen during these conversions. This can result in higher estrogen levels and LG has taken this into account and added ingredients along with DHEA in order to channel the conversion to testosterone along with reducing conversion to estrogenic and androgenic metabolites.



    Again prohormones have traditionally always had the chemical name on the label. The proper name of DHEA would have been 5-Dehydroepiandrosterone and this could have been just as confusing as the chemical name. Like I said prior it is well known that M1D contain DHEA and no one from LG tried to hide or deny this so your accusation is really just unfounded.



    I think I explained the estrogen conversion above already. As for the other key ingredients.. I dont know if you noticed but when I quoted the write up I specifically put "see write up on the previous M1D below", note the bold underlined work there?

    In the original post he states that 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One (which is a 7,8-benz derivative) is the AI used NOT ATD.




    I dont need anyone to buy anything. I have no affliation with LG Science and have no benefit from sales of this product. I was simply checking recent post and your post caught my attention so I responded.

    I understand that you have no interest in this product nor DHEA. However, what I dont understand then is why even comment in the thread? Or attempt to discredit the company and make it seem like they are trying to pull a fast one?
    GREAT reply!
    LG Sciences Board Rep
    These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

  8. I can't wait to hear more about the new m1-d. I'm really interested in this one.

  9. Any word if the current formadrol is still good as a PTC for this? Could just take DAA with it too, right?

  10. What's supposed to be the major change between this and the old version? Is there a trifecta 2 available?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What's supposed to be the major change between this and the old version? Is there a trifecta 2 available?
    I've answered this and your other questions via PM.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    Any word if the current formadrol is still good as a PTC for this? Could just take DAA with it too, right?
    Ya i think FormX will be great for pct actually. With a 3 cap (recommended) dose you get 1.5g of DAA, you could additionally supplement bulk DAA for another 2g for optimal dosing and to better restore HPTA.

  13. I am going to be running M1D black with our 5aOHP. Think they are going to work quite well together.
    TAURUS NUTRITION REP
    OUT NOW THE ALL POWERFUL 5AOHP!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Taurus BigK View Post
    I am going to be running M1D black with our 5aOHP. Think they are going to work quite well together.
    This sounds like a good idea
    RecoverBro ELITE

  15. i just took a look at the warning just for the fun of it and it says:
    NOT FOR USE BY INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE AGE OF 18. DO NOT USE IF PREGNANT OR NURSING. Not intended for use by persons under 40
    it is the last part i'm a little confused by ??

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I've answered this and your other questions via PM.
    Please share.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    Any word if the current formadrol is still good as a PTC for this? Could just take DAA with it too, right?
    Formadrol would be fine for PCT,I would rec the DAA DURING cycle not PCT and its sead it might mildy shut you down also because of rasing your test levels higher then normal. (i got nothing concreat on that but just a *rec)
    LG Sciences Board Rep
    These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

  18. Wonder how good this M1D black really is

  19. I have been running the original m-1d not the black and so far have seen mild gains but nothing too extreme.

  20. How much dhea per capsule? Not too sure taking 800 mg per day is safe,not even on a short term basis.

  21. Hmmmm. This product has been out for a while, yet there are no reviews and the product has no rating at nutraplanet.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Hmmmm. This product has been out for a while, yet there are no reviews and the product has no rating at nutraplanet.
    as rhadam said previously, there are numerous logs on bb.com and as it is new its not surprising a rating hasn't been placed as of yet.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Hmmmm. This product has been out for a while, yet there are no reviews and the product has no rating at nutraplanet.
    Ya that is kind of odd. We've had a good amount of sales of M1-D Black and i am surprised that there aren't any product ratings on nutraplanet. Could be that people are purchasing at brick and mortar stores, or they're just too lazy to put in a review. I can link a handfull of logs though, they do speak for themselves.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Ya that is kind of odd. We've had a good amount of sales of M1-D Black and i am surprised that there aren't any product ratings on nutraplanet. Could be that people are purchasing at brick and mortar stores, or they're just too lazy to put in a review. I can link a handfull of logs though, they do speak for themselves.
    Though I tend not to really take mind in the Nutra rating system... a lot of products seemed to just get flamed. Odd though, as there usually is a few people who just would rate it a 3 and give no feedback.

    There were some logs I believe on this forum. Good results if I recall. Wouldnt mind trying it out myself, but that would be after xmas
    RecoverBro ELITE

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Though I tend not to really take mind in the Nutra rating system... a lot of products seemed to just get flamed. Odd though, as there usually is a few people who just would rate it a 3 and give no feedback.

    There were some logs I believe on this forum. Good results if I recall. Wouldnt mind trying it out myself, but that would be after xmas
    In store reviews i rarely if ever look at. Too easy for company shills to place reviews there rating it a 10/10 and better than steroids.

    The anabolic minds logs went better than even i expected, the bb.com logs went well also. My first run of M1-D Black will actually be during my next PH run. Will be my first time using DHEA on cycle so i'll see how that goes. Most likely i'll toss up a log for it, even though a lot of the time my logs get sporadic after a time due to my insane schedule.
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