Hey guys a few questions about formadrol extreme
- 12-12-2010, 12:04 AM
Hey guys a few questions about formadrol extreme
hey guys i had a little issue with DAA, my nips got really sensitive and ache and itch once in a while and it killed my libido, i was told to get an AI and was recommened formadrol extreme, but i read that it cause rebound? other than that should it lower estrogen back to normal and bring my libido back?
- 12-13-2010, 02:31 PM
12-13-2010, 03:47 PM
i honestly forget, someone at my gym i think, they said they used it and got reboun estrogen after, maybe theres another formadrol? but i was just worrying cuz i recently used daa and that raised my prolactin or estrogen, it made my nips all sore and my libido die so i was gonna get formarol extreme to lower estro and raise libido and get powerfull to lower prolactin :]
12-13-2010, 11:36 PM
or throw in I-GH-1 which has l-dopa either will work, I havent heard much about daa raising estro levels to the point where your nipples hurt.?
12-14-2010, 12:51 AM
06-10-2011, 11:52 PM
I have a bottle of DAA Pure and Formadrol Extreme. Are these two a good stack? I am new to these products. I am 58 and am looking for a boost. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
06-11-2011, 01:28 PM
06-11-2011, 01:57 PM
06-11-2011, 05:56 PM
wyou will probibly get better feedback if you start your OWN new thread on this though.
also at 58 i would go to doc and get test levels checked.
personally at age 30+,Id be on HRT no matter what unless i had abnormally high test levels for some reez (RARELY EVERY HAPPENS)
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06-12-2011, 10:43 AM
Don't use a D-Aspartic Acid supplement until you read this article, you could be actually doing more harm than good! D-Aspartic Acid is all the rage right now in sports supplements. it has the potential to boost testosterone via multiple pathways, but there is a hidden danger that ALL people need to know about when using this popular bodybuilding product.
That danger is from increased estrogen production via aromatase.
D-Aspartic Acid and it's analogs D-Sodium-Asparate and N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid are becoming very popular with bodybuilders looking to boost their testosterone to the very highest levels. However this has a very ugly side effect that could potentially make this innocent supplement the devil in disguise. It works by increasing something called steroidogenic acute regulatory (StAR) protein, which is a critical enzyme in the production of testosterone. It is found in the testes and is a rate limiting step in the creation of testosterone. Increasing the activity of StAR is one of the main ways that DAA helps the body make more testosterone and it was shown in human studies that D-Aspartic Acid can give roughly a 30% increase in testosterone production! This is amazing for a completely natural product, but that boost in testosterone has one downside that may actually be making your situation worse! The good news is that if reversed, it could actually make the conversion to testosterone even higher and could boost your testosterone levels above 30%!
Aromatase is a nasty enzyme that is responsible for converting testosterone to estrogen in the body. It is what robs the bodybuilder of the robust effects of testosterone and changes the balance of your hormones. As we age, we produce even more aromatase and that is often why you see men getting fat, soft and flabby as they get older. Aromatase and it's end product estrogen are the enemy of any man wanting to keep that rock hard physique and feel his best!
Unfortunately it seems that the "holy grail" of supplements D-Aspartic Acid may actually cause the body to produce more aromatase, which is something you definitely don't want! Making all of that extra testosterone isn't going to do you much good if a large part of it converts to estrogen in the body, so you want to stop that from happening! It has been shown in the literature that D-Aspartic Acid can increase testicular aromatase levels, making your testosterone to estrogen ratio sub par (1,2,3) which can certainly be an issue for the bodybuilder. Luckily, you can add in some very potent aromatase inhibitors that will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by binding and locking up aromatase! You will want to use a combination of a competitive inhibitor of aromatase and a suicide inhibitor of aromatase to maximize the benefits of D-Aspartic Acid!
Two aromatase inhibitors are on the market that will do the job quite nicely and they are very potent. The combination of these should give you all the boost you need to really check the aromatase enzyme and keep estrogen levels down! That combined with a pure D-Aspartic Acid product will give you a solid one-two punch that will deliver results! The first ingredient is 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One, which is a competitive inhibitor of aromatase that is in the same potency range as prescription drugs used by bodybuilders to reduce estrogen, like Arimidex(R). 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One has a very strong affinity for the aromatase enzyme, giving an almost drug like inhibition! This will work great with D-Aspartic Acid and it's analog N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid at reducing that testicular aromatase and increasing testosterone even further. The competitive inhibitor will benefit from a suicide inhibitor, which are getting harder to find these days! The only one really left on the market is 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid, which is a fairly weak suicide inhibitor, but it is very effective in combination with the above mentioned 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One!
The combination of these two is a very good addition to any D-Aspartic Acid cycle and should always be used in my opinion.
One product on the market has both 2-Phenyl-Di-Benzyl-Benzopyran-4-One and 3-Beta-Hydroxy-Urs-12-En-28-Oic Acid in addition to Ginger extract which should also supercharge the effects of D-Aspartic Acid and that is Formadrol Extreme from LG Sciences (also called Forma-D on some web sites). Ginger increases conversion of cholesterol to testosterone as well, making it a natural stack with D-Aspartic Acid. So, Formadrol has it all when it comes to being stacked with D-Aspartic Acid and the only formula that I know of that has both aromatase inhibitors.
So, there you have it! D-Aspartic Acid is an exciting supplement that can certainly increase testosterone, but it should be stacked with aromatase inhibitors for maximal effects!
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This is an article I came across while researching DAA for myself as I keep finding articles that claim DAA may increase chances of gyno in some people. I posted this on another forum and was mocked due to someone stating this was an infomercial for LG Sciences products...if it is then my mistake. I too am at an age where my test levels have declined so am looking to naturally elevate then before I resort to hormone therapy.
Funny, that I am coming off of the LG Trifecta Stack and will be using DAA while on my PCT (which I have 2 bottles of Formadrol Extreme) due to the raves I have heard about DAA...but this whole aromatase thing has always been the other side of the double edged sword...we all want to raise our test levels, but at the same time estrogen elevates as well...and I may be more prone to gyno than others.
One thing that I see missing from this article though is age of individuals using DAA...I'm 40 and I know my natural test levels are under 300...sucks but reality...so even if I take a natural test booster I really can't see my levels being raised to a point where I would have too much where it would be converted into estrogen...or am I missing something? If you are a male in your 20's and are using DAA or any test booster, then I would see a problem with having elevated test levels that would produce an estrogen problem. But if you are in your 40's or 50's, and your test levels are low, and you use a test booster, I dont see how estrogen would be an issue due to I don't think any test booster on the market right now can elevate test that high.
I have TestForce 2 sitting in my cabinet right now and Adamantium w/Titanium on its way, Nutra Planet is awesome on timely delivery...ordered TestForce 2 yesterday and already here! Anyway, any thoughts on this article from anyone? So if this is true, then wouldn't supplement companies want to add aromatase inhibitors to their DAA product to combat this downside?
I have read many articles on DAA and vast majority of folks seem to use an AI while taking DAA...so hopefully this helps, as I am trying to find out the same information.
LifterGym33...how are things? I see you switched from LG Science rep to Taurus rep...any reason we should be concerned with? Hope all is well!
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
06-12-2011, 10:57 AM
06-13-2011, 04:16 AM
I skimmed that article, looked to be the typical shock and awe piece. I've seen multiple bloods post DAA and yes there is a decent increase in E but not enough to make running an AI with it a necessity. I like an addition of L-Dopa with DAA, but saying you HAVE to run an inhibitor or you'll do more harm than good is ludacris. I recommend running DAA with: Triazole, Stoked, Inhibit-e, and Formadrol.
06-16-2011, 07:46 PM
06-16-2011, 07:56 PM
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