methyl 1-d causes estrogenic effects beware
- 08-11-2008, 02:07 PM
methyl 1-d causes estrogenic effects beware
i've been reading alot about it and everyone who has tried lg sciences methyl 1-d says they have rebounded with puffiness in the breasts mostly around the nipple are because of 4 grams of atd complex only has 4 mg not enough to stop the conversion.
i would like someone to shed some light on this because im receiving the product tomorrow and am seriously contemplating on returning all my lg science products because of a handful of reasons this being one of them
- 08-11-2008, 02:11 PM
I would love to hear back about this as well, because I am/was very heavily considering ordering this product as well.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
- 08-11-2008, 02:13 PM
08-11-2008, 03:11 PM
type in google 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one and read reviews from peopel who have used the product and the chemical breakdown or methyl 1-d dont get me wrong the product sounds great and i really want to use it and also read in the anobolic minds forum about 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one people on this website discuss the product and are agreeing with this im not trying to hate on LG i want to use this product and am receiving it tomorrow but i dont want to risk that type of side effect
08-11-2008, 03:13 PM
Anything that can convert to actual test, will aromatize. If you take a test booster, that isnt a natural anti e as well your extra test can convert to estrogen or other not wanted hormones. Some potent designers even cause these problems. M1D gets a lot of great reviews like i posted in your other thread, and like slow-mun said, the current and new version of M1D doesnt have atd in it, it has androsterone.
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08-11-2008, 03:28 PM
thank you for the information when i read about 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one and how it is used in methyl 1-d maybe it was and older product of methyl 1-d. to avoid bad hormones and estrogen conversion would it be wise to run some psarm or formadrol during my on cycle to subside the conversions of test into estrogen ?
(mmv2, m1-d, 1-gd is what im going to run for 4-6 weeks)
08-11-2008, 03:31 PM
08-11-2008, 03:37 PM
cool like i said im not trying to knock LG i've been doing research and really want to support and use your products because all i have read is great reviews i just need some last questions answered before i go ahead and start my cycle.
Which will be mmv2, methyl 1-d, and 1-hg, for 6 weeks after my 30days of mmv2 are done im going to use the liquid for 2 weeks than use psarm and formadrol for pct.
Does this sound like a good first cycle to work with ?
08-11-2008, 04:24 PM
08-11-2008, 05:18 PM
08-11-2008, 05:22 PM
08-11-2008, 05:47 PM
I ran it twice and can tell you that strength goes way up bet it is a whopping dose of DHEA wich is a steroid and the side effects are insomnia, heart palputations, and high bp. There may be others but I forgot, I will say that the second time I ran it (both with proper PCT and over 6 months apart) I had insomnia like a MF and heart palputations that scared the shyt out of me. The strength gains were great, but the water retention and loss of gains afterwards were terrible. Be carefull.
08-11-2008, 06:32 PM
I'm about to start a Trifecta Cycle ,along with the lquid Masterdrol I also ordered a bottle of MMV2 wich I'm planing to use on week 4-6 (should I just take the MMV2 on training days only?) , I'm looking to do a 6 weeks cycle, for PCT I will run Formadrol and Psarm for 4 weeks. I'm 5 10" 168 lbs, and would like to know what would be the best possible dose. Thank you so much for all your help!
08-11-2008, 07:31 PM
08-11-2008, 11:23 PM
im 22 should the mmv2 taken on non training days? i think it should be to keep the levels high in your system until pct
08-12-2008, 12:00 PM
08-12-2008, 12:47 PM
thank you for the advice im going to get life support to run towards the end of the cycle into the pct to lower colesteral, blood pressure, prostate support, and liver supprt there are other ingerdiants that help with other things but i cant remember right now
08-12-2008, 02:43 PM
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