[ranel2220]

i just received my items from NP with a bottle of Venom HD 3.0 and some old stuff is missing and there are new stuff... hoodia gordonii, 5-Hydroxy L-Tryptophan and Vitamin B12 is missing and there is a new compound, Griffonia Seed Concentrate. anyone know the effectiveness of this ''new'' formula??? i have a red bottle with red pills

[FitnFirm]

Originally Posted by ranel2220

i just received my items from NP with a bottle of Venom HD 3.0 and some old stuff is missing and there are new stuff... hoodia gordonii, 5-Hydroxy L-Tryptophan and Vitamin B12 is missing and there is a new compound, Griffonia Seed Concentrate. anyone know the effectiveness of this ''new'' formula??? i have a red bottle with red pills

The label on their site doesnt mention that griffonia seed Why dont you type out what it says on your label.

[jmh80]

I compared the 400 mg bottle to the 500 mg bottle today and saw the new version has the phaseolous vulgaris added (it seemed) and the red pepper extract taken out.

[ranel2220]

its the 500 mg version with 150mg of caffeine per pill. ingredients: cocoamine 3.0, guarana extract, maximowizia chinensis extract, phaseolus vulgaris extract, R-ALA, griffonia seed concentrate, guggul extract, rhodiolia rosea root extract, tyrosine ethyl ester, propionyl-carnitine ethyl ester vitaberine.
thats what my bottle says, any info on it??? the effectivity of the appetite suppression???

[FitnFirm]

Originally Posted by ranel2220

its the 500 mg version with 150mg of caffeine per pill. ingredients: cocoamine 3.0, guarana extract, maximowizia chinensis extract, phaseolus vulgaris extract, R-ALA, griffonia seed concentrate, guggul extract, rhodiolia rosea root extract, tyrosine ethyl ester, propionyl-carnitine ethyl ester vitaberine.
thats what my bottle says, any info on it??? the effectivity of the appetite suppression???

I went and read about that griffonia seed and it sounds pretty awesome, looks like they just used a different name for 5-hydroxy tryptophan. (5-HTP )



Griffonia Seed and 5-HTP (5-hydroxy tryptophan),the magic seed from African folk medicine not only play as effective replacement for tryptophan,but more.Griffonia Seed Extract.5-Hydroxytryptophan.10%20%99%HPLC.5-HTP.CAS No.:4350-09-8,Brain serotonin

[ranel2220]

yeah that what i tought, anyway i can feel the appetite suppression a little bit at 1 pill a day, ill bump to 2 today, but the second one at 10am

[FitnFirm]

Originally Posted by ranel2220

yeah that what i tought, anyway i can feel the appetite suppression a little bit at 1 pill a day, ill bump to 2 today, but the second one at 10am

cool, just dont take one at like 5 pm and expect to sleep Ive only taken 2 caps at one time ONCE ! Im told even if you feel the effect wear off after use that the fat burning still occurs as well.

[Pimp C]

this is the international bottle. it has less caffeine, no b-12 and they label 5-htp differently.

[ranel2220]

but still no hoodia, the appetite suppressant???

[FitnFirm]

Originally Posted by ranel2220

but still no hoodia, the appetite suppressant???

I think that is a banned ingredient internationally .

[Bigguy851]

With the new venom hyperdrive 3.0 I lost 30lbs in 5 almost 6 weeks

[GRAYHORSE]

Yeah, you got the international bottle. I hear some of those got sent out by mistake.

[ranel2220]

but i was an internationnal customer, but wanted the original formula, with the hoodia because i wanteed to suppress my appetite.