I'm going to run the evo stack for the 1st time 2 months from now. I have heard nothing but good things about it. I am running it due to its anabolic properties along w/ its low sides. I personally want a product that doesn't F w/ my libido and sleep patterns. Ive been told you will see slow gains w/ these products but they will be gains that stick w/ you as long as your training routine and diet compliment them, like im sure you already know.