conversion Rate
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ersatz
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Wasn't 600mg a common dose for the original 1-AD?
Conversion should be 1-dhea to 1-androstenedione and 1-androstenediol to 1-testosterone with 17HSD being the least efficient conversion. I cannot find any literature to indicate any possible conversion rate of 1-dhea to 1-dione or 1-diol, nor if there is preference. It may vary by tissue but I think 1-dione may be preferred. Conversion rates are difficult to determine as enzyme expression differs in individuals. Furthermore, most of these conversion rates are based on in vitro data which further confounds matters.
From the anecdotal feedback of others it appears that 600mg of this 1-ad is equivalent to anywhere from 300-400mg of the old 1-AD. Again, this is mere conjecture based on the gains reported. Having used both of the old 1-ADs I may give 10dhea a go to see what my personal conversion rate/comparison dose is.
Conversion should be 1-dhea to 1-androstenedione and 1-androstenediol to 1-testosterone with 17HSD being the least efficient conversion. I cannot find any literature to indicate any possible conversion rate of 1-dhea to 1-dione or 1-diol, nor if there is preference. It may vary by tissue but I think 1-dione may be preferred. Conversion rates are difficult to determine as enzyme expression differs in individuals. Furthermore, most of these conversion rates are based on in vitro data which further confounds matters.
From the anecdotal feedback of others it appears that 600mg of this 1-ad is equivalent to anywhere from 300-400mg of the old 1-AD. Again, this is mere conjecture based on the gains reported. Having used both of the old 1-ADs I may give 10dhea a go to see what my personal conversion rate/comparison dose is.
IronMagLabs
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thanks Dave.
quigs
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There really is no exact answer to this question. You see, its not like a one-way street. There is conversion, to 1-test, then back to 1AD, then back to 1-test, etc, etc...as the compound comes into contact with 17HSD.
That said, we can look at what appears to be an effective dose of 1-andro...which is what I'm assuming you want to know when you ask conversion rate. Back in the day, I had great results at 300-400mg daily of the old ergo 1-andro-diol compound. The new AMS 1-andro (same as the ironmags stuff) gave me similar results at 400-600mg as the original 1AD.
Many ran the original 1AD at much higher dosages however (like 600mg daily). You'd likely want to run the new 1-androsterone products at 600-800mg daily to get similar effects to the high end 1AD users.
That said, we can look at what appears to be an effective dose of 1-andro...which is what I'm assuming you want to know when you ask conversion rate. Back in the day, I had great results at 300-400mg daily of the old ergo 1-andro-diol compound. The new AMS 1-andro (same as the ironmags stuff) gave me similar results at 400-600mg as the original 1AD.
Many ran the original 1AD at much higher dosages however (like 600mg daily). You'd likely want to run the new 1-androsterone products at 600-800mg daily to get similar effects to the high end 1AD users.
IronMagLabs
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correct, all of the feedback has been 600mg being the effective dose.
IronMagLabs
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either way, based on of the feedback we have received thus far I am actually inclined to say start out at 600mg, overall side effects being reported back have been minimal unless you go over 800mg.
