Invictus - Topical b-AET Cortisol Suppression

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  1. Without a doubt this is another amazing product by IL. I'm using it now and I swear it's saving me from deteriorating on my cut lol
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  2. Zoo do you guys own Iconic Formulations?, running the 11-keto and it is working very well!!!
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  3. was hoping mine would be here today, hope it arrives tomorrow for me to start next monday which is my 3rd week of pct where cortisol will start to spike.

    I have reduce XT on hand so will probably use that if it does not arrive from nutriverse.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dvw View Post
    Zoo do you guys own Iconic Formulations?, running the 11-keto and it is working very well!!!
    I think it might be under the Iron Legion/Alpha Gainz banner as well. Nos or rob will have to confirm. Either way I'm glad to see that it's treating you well
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  5. yeah i hear alpha gainz in the same company is what I meant
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  6. Invictus - Topical b-AET Cortisol Suppression


    Quote Originally Posted by dvw View Post
    yeah i hear alpha gainz in the same company is what I meant
    Correction. Iron legion. Alpha Gainz. Iconic formulations. These are separate entities. The salvo is a licensing thing.
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  7. Get your invictus here @ TGB

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  8. Well, did some solo research on Invictus' ingredient and got what I needed to be convinced. Two bottles on the way!

  9. My Invictus has just turned up this morning,

    Yesterday i ran Reduce XT, 3 caps per day am, midday and pre bed,

    Today i have just done 0.5 ml of Invictus in the am, is it then best to dose the other 0.5ml pre bed or straight after workout, also could you get away with just dosing 1 ml in the am for the day.

    When using Reduce XT yesterday i noticed post workout i did not have any down or anxious feeling and had no cravings for food, i will see how this product compares today, and will do a full 30 days on it then either order another one or switch over to reduce xt for another month,

    I did notice it applies well and has a strong chemical / medicinal like smell to it.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ma70 View Post
    Well, did some solo research on Invictus' ingredient and got what I needed to be convinced. Two bottles on the way!
    b-AET really is an impressive and underrated ingredient in the supplement world.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    b-AET really is an impressive and underrated ingredient in the supplement world.
    Yeah I'm gonna log it doing a crazy weight loss challenge against my girlfriend.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ma70 View Post
    Yeah I'm gonna log it doing a crazy weight loss challenge against my girlfriend.
    Awesome! Please post a link when you do!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    Awesome! Please post a link when you do!
    My bottles are in. The challenge starts May 30. Whooo...

  14. Could someone clarify how many mg. of actives per ml.? I've never used any IL products, but I find it very frustrating that it's so hard to get a straight answer to the dosages in your products.

    I just ordered 3 bottles of the VII-keto and would like to order 3 bottles of the b-aet to stack with it (just would like to know the dosage per ml.).

    I've used PA's 7 spray before and it was fantastic! The only thing I didn't like was the fact that you had to use 8 ml./day in order to get 120 mg. of 7-keto and 120 mg. of b-aet !

    Crowbar

  15. Quote Originally Posted by crowbar46 View Post
    Could someone clarify how many mg. of actives per ml.? I've never used any IL products, but I find it very frustrating that it's so hard to get a straight answer to the dosages in your products.

    I just ordered 3 bottles of the VII-keto and would like to order 3 bottles of the b-aet to stack with it (just would like to know the dosage per ml.).

    I've used PA's 7 spray before and it was fantastic! The only thing I didn't like was the fact that you had to use 8 ml./day in order to get 120 mg. of 7-keto and 120 mg. of b-aet !

    Crowbar
    Invictus is 100mg/ml of b-AET

  16. Quote Originally Posted by crowbar46 View Post
    Could someone clarify how many mg. of actives per ml.? I've never used any IL products, but I find it very frustrating that it's so hard to get a straight answer to the dosages in your products.

    I just ordered 3 bottles of the VII-keto and would like to order 3 bottles of the b-aet to stack with it (just would like to know the dosage per ml.).

    I've used PA's 7 spray before and it was fantastic! The only thing I didn't like was the fact that you had to use 8 ml./day in order to get 120 mg. of 7-keto and 120 mg. of b-aet !

    Crowbar
    Both are 100mg/ml

    We apologize for any frustration. These products are officially marketed as cosmetics, so, the concentration isn't listed on the label but reps like myself or a quick email to customer service should suffice to get you clear answers on any of our products.

    Again, I apologize for any confusion and we appreciate your support!
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    Both are 100mg/ml

    We apologize for any frustration. These products are officially marketed as cosmetics, so, the concentration isn't listed on the label but reps like myself or a quick email to customer service should suffice to get you clear answers on any of our products.

    Again, I apologize for any confusion and we appreciate your support!

    And I appreciate your fast response! Three bottles of b-aet on the way.

    As an additional bit of info on the 7-keto, it significantly increases thyroid hormone levels.

    For those who have not used b-aet or 7-keto, you're in for a treat! I'm 54 y.o. and have been training for over 30 years. PA's 7 spray (combo of both actives) made me feeling like a new man! I mean it completely eliminated the aches and pains of hard training and cutting. My joints and tendons felt like I was the Tin Man that had just been oiled. It definitely ramps up your immune system also. I invariably get a "low grade" cold or something of the sort whenever I cut and train hard; but not on this stuff! The leaning effect is also substantial. You're gonna love it!

    So, is it "anabolic"? Well, in the sense that it helps you be able to train with greater intensity without excessive inflammation--which will decrease insulin sensitivity-- or getting sick, yes it is, as it will increase recovery.

    I can't recall off the top of my head if was 7-keto or b-aet that has been shown to decrease total testosterone, but INCREASE FREE TEST.

    Crowbar

  18. I actually notice increased joint pain while taking oral b androstenetriol. I am on it at 75mg a day now

  19. 3rd cycle of baet

  20. From my own log:

    BOTTLE 1 FINAL REVIEW:
    Okay, I've already rambled on in the thread enough so first, we will start with lists.

    PROS:
    - After 1.5 weeks, I've had the best sleep of my life. This is superior to the old sleep stack combo I had which consisted of 100mg L-Theanine, 500mg Relora, and 100mg 5-HTP
    - Feelings of relaxation (sort of absent minded kind of feeling)
    - Possible body composition improvements
    - Impulse/hunger control while in a decent deficit

    CONS:
    - Lethargy. As expected of DHEA/DHEA metabolites, a person who's "relatively young" (26) should generally feel lethargy from these kinds of compounds
    - Acne. At first, I thought this may have been in my head until I realized there are some bits of info that say that while this may lower total test, it increases the amount of free test. Getting acne on my chest and back are very rare. Even random pimples on my legs.

    I went down from around 202 to 196 in 3.5 weeks (the bottle lasted 24ish days). Combined with the fact that my diet was not 100% on point on weekends and the fact that I still managed to get some good strength progression out of the Texas Method, this is pretty nice. I recommend this for people who have a lot of visceral fat, or for people with low diet control in regards to cravings. I wouldn't call this appetite suppression....but it just makes me think less about the "good foods" I am missing out on. I've tried intermittent fasting (which I still do) and eating lots of veggies with lots of water, but this supplement definitely made the difference in regards to next level hunger/craving control.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ma70 View Post
    From my own log:
    Why would this lower test?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by M.I.D View Post
    Why would this lower test?
    Lowering cortisol too much can lower testosterone

    Edit. However I doubt that's the case.

  23. I wouldn't expect this product to lower testosterone.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    I wouldn't expect this product to lower testosterone.
    I second that

  25. I took the whole ML in one dose pre bed... im a zombie today....literally, but im beyond relaxed it's so weird.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by YoungBodyBuil View Post
    I took the whole ML in one dose pre bed... im a zombie today....literally, but im beyond relaxed it's so weird.
    Yeah. This stuff is terrible for people who work out in the AM, ahhahaha.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by ma70 View Post
    Yeah. This stuff is terrible for people who work out in the AM, ahhahaha.
    You're telling me lol

  28. haha, well that'll teach ya!

    bet you slept like a rock though

    I would try to take it at least a few hours before bed, and I don't recommend more than .5ml at a time.
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  29. I too take 1ml in a morning and thats it...

    Do you recommend .5ml twice a day?
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