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Old 06-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #1
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Got 6% Acidic Acid And Reconed It Last Night...

bought 6 % instead of .6%...i mixed ityesterday but just read that it might not be good to inject that into the body...

is it still good to go???

i read it might be better to dilute it with distilled water but its to late now since its mixed in already..

help would be appreciated since im starting today PWO..


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I did the same thing friday and let me tell you it hurts like hell, bad. I still did the inject. I left a post similar to yours last night and nobody responded? Good luck
 
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I have no idea if that strength AA will harm the igf but that is 10x the concentration used to reconstitute. And on top of that you are supposed to cut the .6% reconstituted with a minimum of 4x the ammt of BA. I think AA at too high a concentration, without dilution, can kill muscle cells.. like cause necrosis.
 
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bought 6 % instead of .6%...i mixed ityesterday but just read that it might not be good to inject that into the body...

is it still good to go???

i read it might be better to dilute it with distilled water but its to late now since its mixed in already..

help would be appreciated since im starting today PWO..


thanks guys
Hold the heck on here....you should dilute your 6% AA in distilled water (using sterile procedure), then back-load (dilute further) ~4-6x BW (depending on preference). Do NOT inject 6%AA....that will damage tissue and probably hurt like a mother effer.

Guys, please read my IGF-1 User's Guide. It's all in there. Stop screwing around....demmit dewd. Be careful now.

BTW, why is it too late to dilute the 6% AA? IMO, it should be fine to add the distilled water (STERILE) to the 6%AA/IGF-1.
 



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Papa to the rescue! One of the great minds on this forum.
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pap i know bro im a fukin retard...

but look wat if on my workout days i jusdt pull back the amount desired and just fill it up with BW..would that work???


also is this garbage then?? or can i do something to fix it ..

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It's too acidic, your IGF-1 will probably degrade, who knows how quickly. You could add BW into your vial though, that should be better than doing nothing. Trouble is, you won't really know how much total volume you have, thus concentration will be unknown...
 



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It's too acidic, your IGF-1 will probably degrade, who knows how quickly. You could add BW into your vial though, that should be better than doing nothing. Trouble is, you won't really know how much total volume you have, thus concentration will be unknown...
Yes, I cannot comment on the degradative effect if 6% AA in IGF-1.

Do you know the starting concentration of your IGF-1/AA solution? Was is acquired pre-reconned, or did you add the 6% to the lyophilized IGF?

IF you had 1mg/mL IGF-1/AA, you can add 7.5mL sterile distilled water and this will yield ~0.6% AA/IGF-1. Please let me know what's up.
 



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Yes, I cannot comment on the degradative effect if 6% AA in IGF-1.

Do you know the starting concentration of your IGF-1/AA solution? Was is acquired pre-reconned, or did you add the 6% to the lyophilized IGF?

IF you had 1mg/mL IGF-1/AA, you can add 7.5mL sterile distilled water and this will yield ~0.6% AA/IGF-1. Please let me know what's up.

He doesn't have a filter or a sterile vial. He would need 9mls of sterile water to bring the 6% down. He reconned with 1ml of 6% AA.

7.5mls is for 5% AA.

No way that is going to fit in the little IGF vial.
 



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He doesn't have a filter or a sterile vial. He would need 9mls of sterile water to bring the 6% down. He reconned with 1ml of 6% AA.

7.5mls is for 5% AA.

No way that is going to fit in the little IGF vial.
What about getting a sterile vial and sucking out the lgf/6. AA and then adding sterile water to that? Or at least whatever ammt of BA would be necessary to dilute the AA properly?

Or getting a bunch of syringes and sucking out 20mcg of the igf and then backloading with a butload of BA after making some or with sterile water?

Like would it be possible for him to draw like 20mcg of his current solution and then loading the rest of a 1cc syringe with BA or sterile water? If he could do something like this at least he wouldn't destroy/rot his muscles injecting it, be it effective, partially effective, or ineffective due to the initial reconstitution with 6. AA.

Anything like this possible, recommended as an alternative to throwing it away?

igf can sit in BA for a short while can't it? Or maybe express order a sterile vial and whatever else is needed. I mean we are talking 150+ bucks here in most cases already spent.
 
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What about getting a sterile vial and sucking out the lgf/6. AA and then adding sterile water to that? Or at least whatever ammt of BA would be necessary to dilute the AA properly?

Or getting a bunch of syringes and sucking out 20mcg of the igf and then backloading with a butload of BA after making some or with sterile water?

Like would it be possible for him to draw like 20mcg of his current solution and then loading the rest of a 1cc syringe with BA or sterile water? If he could do something like this at least he wouldn't destroy/rot his muscles injecting it, be it effective, partially effective, or ineffective due to the initial reconstitution with 6. AA.

Anything like this possible, recommended as an alternative to throwing it away?

igf can sit in BA for a short while can't it? Or maybe express order a sterile vial and whatever else is needed. I mean we are talking 150+ bucks here in most cases already spent.
I suggested getting a sterile vial and filter via PM and further diluting it to the correct concentration. Who knows if its already degraded. No way would I shoot that crap as is.

Pre-loading syringes would work I guess. Not sure on the amounts required to backload.

IGF can sit reconned in an ~ideal~ AA solution for quite some time (like yr + IIRC). That stuff may already be degraded now, who knows. If it were me, I would express order some sterile vials, some .22 whatman filters and pull the reconned IGF out of the existing vial and put it into a new vial with 9ml of filtered/sterile distilled water. Not sure what the dose/ticks on the pin would be at that level, but at least the AA solution would be correct.
 



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Whatever you do, don't refilter the IGF. The whatmans are known for the slight particularity that peptides adhere to the filtering membrane like glue.
 



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Whatever you do, don't refilter the IGF. The whatmans are known for the slight particularity that peptides adhere to the filtering membrane like glue.

Yeah, I hope that I didn't sound like I was recommending that. The filter is for the Distilled water only.
 



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grunt can i just load pin with deisred amount and load to the t with Bac water?
 
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grunt can i just load pin with deisred amount and load to the t with Bac water?
Yeah but how long until your IGF is broken down into nothing by that strong an acid? A week?
 



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Yeah but how long until your IGF is broken down into nothing by that strong an acid? A week?

you think so really??? makes sense...

would that cause narcosis still??is the balance still to strong???
 
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