[MentalTwitch]

Soooo these are the items im interestad in, and prolly will be involved with....

IGF-1 = enough for 48+ days(3-4 months)
B12 - 30ml = 1ml/1000mcgs
GHRP-6 20mg
A PH, prolly an Epithio compound = 6 weeks.
Clen(but may not use during any of this)
I'll be using creatine and GLycerol Mono Sterate along side.

Still thinking about what else, but this is what im thinking for now. Im not really into AAS more the peptide interest and other simple but effective items. Good, quality, "keepable" gains.

Thanks guys, i say it in advance cause i know you're quality already.

Peace.


EDIT= The goal is recomp, leaning while gaining/holding mass. I am 5'10 -185lbs - ~11%BF

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by MentalTwitch

Soooo these are the items im interestad in, and prolly will be involved with....

IGF-1 = enough for 48+ days(3-4 months)
B12 - 30ml = 1ml/1000mcgs
GHRP-6 20mg
A PH, prolly an Epithio compound = 6 weeks.
Clen(but may not use during any of this)
I'll be using creatine and GLycerol Mono Sterate along side.

Still thinking about what else, but this is what im thinking for now. Im not really into AAS more the peptide interest and other simple but effective items. Good, quality, "keepable" gains.

Thanks guys, i say it in advance cause i know you're quality already.

Peace.


EDIT= The goal is recomp, leaning while gaining/holding mass. I am 5'10 -185lbs - ~11%BF

Hmmm......GHRP-6....this is on my 'study' list...as is Frag 176 (iffy post-shipping peptide activity though) and some other peptide "STUFF". I really need to study up a lot more on these other peptides and GH releasors.

Epithio compound? WTH? what is that? I'm thinking of Epistane next.

I'm like you...no AAS (injectable)....not for me. Just stick with some low-sides oral and peptides. I'm not too keen on hypertrophy, but I'm diggin' hyperplasia big time. I'm in it for the long run!

[bdpeck]

yah i think an epi product would be beneficial after the gh and igf-1, but im sure doing it while on wouldnt hurt.

i was thinking about getting some clen while on my igf-1 cycle but it seems like that might be better saved for later, since building new muscle tissue while on igf is the most important. and killing your appetite might not be the best thing.

[babyblu]

My suggestion is this:

igf 3x per week 40mics IM bi-lat PWO, weeks 1-16

ghrp6 250mics x 2/day (am/pm) subQ ED, weeks 5,6,7 & 10, 11,12

Epi: These dosages are more dependent upon you and your tolerance levels and sides, etc. Also of course depending on your use of support supplements which I would recommend like Cycle Support or Life Support from AI.
wk7 20mg/day
wk8 20mg/day
wk9 30mg/day
wk10 40mg/day
wk11 50mg/day
wk12 40mg/day

PCT: clomid/nolva/tor whatever you are going to use wks 13, 14, 15, 16

B-12: 1ml/day wks 10, 11, 12, 13

Clen: wks 7, 8, 9, 10 *use this w/the Epi to keep lbm, Im no clen guru but i believe its important to ramp up from week to week, again depending on your tolerance to sides so I wont suggest a starting or stopping point. Also if you need to in wks 9 and 10, might take a little benadryl at night before bed to help keep the clen working.

I guess run the creatine and glycerol throughout. Creatine makes me bloat but maybe it doesnt do that to you. Be sure to use creatine AFTER igf shot.

bb

[MentalTwitch]

Thanks man.
I was curious as to why you placed certain things where you did? The Epi i understand a little ways in after the IGF. but what about the others? In simple terms to ssave you time.
IGF always bi-lat? No spot use? I was prolly gowing to use it for shoulders, chest, quads...and maybe forearms.

[babyblu]

Of course spot use with igf: i.e. hit the specific spots you want to bring up but always hit both sides of your body -- bi-lateral calf injects, bi-lat tri injects, bi-lat quads, bi-lat pecs, etc.

I put a break into the ghrp6 to allow you to regain the hunger-related side that occurs with it. Also I question whether or not the body produces antibodies that eventually reduce the effectiveness of ghrp6. Also combined ghrp w/the epi to take advantage of metabolic effects of the AAS with the increased food intake of the ghrp.

I would suggest running igf during pct to keep any bodyfat from accrueing as your metabolism returns to normal.

Running clen w/the epi to prevent loss of lbm.

Using the b-12 at the tail end of the epi to help the body recover from WO but also to help combat the lethargy that comes from 17aa methylation and to also help the body 'recover' from the AAS.

bb