[MentalTwitch]

Would a PH prduce the cell developing results that are needed when using IGF? I understand IGF just created new cells and they need time to mature, often recomended to be used with a AAS for that side of it.

So could things like Havoc, Mdrol, Hdrol, etc. be used in that place? Obviously would not come close to the same effects, but speed the process?

Thanks.

PS- I love this section of the forum.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by MentalTwitch

Would a PH prduce the cell developing results that are needed when using IGF? I understand IGF just created new cells and they need time to mature, often recomended to be used with a AAS for that side of it.

So could things like Havoc, Mdrol, Hdrol, etc. be used in that place? Obviously would not come close to the same effects, but speed the process?

Thanks.

PS- I love this section of the forum.

Ofcourse! PHs are just prohormones to actual AAS derivetives/types. Some PH's actualy exert a direct anabolic/androgenic effect in their native form as well.

Look at it this way: If a substance exerts an anabolic effect on existing fibers, then it will exert an equal effect on newly developed fibers... No difference.

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by MentalTwitch

Would a PH prduce the cell developing results that are needed when using IGF? I understand IGF just created new cells and they need time to mature, often recomended to be used with a AAS for that side of it.

So could things like Havoc, Mdrol, Hdrol, etc. be used in that place? Obviously would not come close to the same effects, but speed the process?

Thanks.

PS- I love this section of the forum.

Oh man yes....PHs are AAS, just in precursor form (if you will). Those stealthy manufacturers have figured out ways for PHs to be converted to active steroid form using the liver and other internal processes.

The big issue with PHs vs. injectables is sides (especially liver toxicity as the liver despises methylated substances).

Anyways, I would say YES that PHs would definitely speed the process. From reading other posts, IGF-1 works very well in PCT. Now, whether you run PH 1st, followed by IGF-1, or visa-versa, that's your call. There was a previous post on this not too long ago.

[MentalTwitch]

Sounds good guys. I know the PH/AAS relation ship and the sides also become an issue, just trying to cook up some ideas.

IF i did do this i'd prolly run the IGF for 12+ weeks, then the PH and then IGF again in PCT along with the other basics for PCT.

Thanks guys.

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by MentalTwitch

Sounds good guys. I know the PH/AAS relation ship and the sides also become an issue, just trying to cook up some ideas.

IF i did do this i'd prolly run the IGF for 12+ weeks, then the PH and then IGF again in PCT along with the other basics for PCT.

Thanks guys.

Igf for 12 weeks?? Do you mean 3x a week or something?

[MentalTwitch]

yea sorry, i posted at 2:00am...and i was tired.

Not holding to 12 weeks but yea 3-4 times a week. Just lagging parts and then one days low dose SubQ on an off day or a day with a strong bodypart.

No clue yet, im still a ways away from tryin it out too, but i cant wait.