Dr. Visits, Lab Tests..what do you tell Doc?

[papapumpsd]

So Bobaslaw brought up an interesting point in a previous post. Independent lab testing for anonymity-sake.

I went to see my primary care doc several months ago because I had a few things I wanted him to check out. I also requested that I get a blood panel done to check for CK levels (aka, CPK, aka, creatine kinase) since my twin bro has had significantly elevated levels and that can lead to other negative issues. BTW, we get extremely sore from mundane activities like bowling, light running, lifting cheezy weights, etc. So that was a catalyst in my decision to get blood work.

1) Anywho, when you guys are using 'gear', do you tell your Dr.?
2) How do you get blood work done (by your Dr. or independent lab)?
3) If you ask your Dr. to prescribe blood work/lab tests, does he/she ask you why you want them taken? If so, what do you say?
4) Please provide any other info on what you talk to you Dr. about and if any consequences may arise from admitting you're administering either prescription-based AAS (w/o an Rx) or R&D substances.

FYI: I do have insurance through my employer.

Thanks bros! (I did a search, but nothing related to this topic came up, aside from Bobas brief comment mentioned above).

 

[papapumpsd]

BUMP! Quit lurking and POST! HA! :wave:

 

[MentalTwitch]

I can not speak from personal experience but i read that most do. This is only casue there IS a confidentiality guidline with your Dr. and he IS NOT allowed to tell anyone. This is talked about in a thread on MD...

I would tell him just cause you know the sides and whats casuing them...he doesnt know youre on, see elevated levels, poor lipids, etc etc he will perscribe you something you can go without basically.

I would mention it, not in detail, but that you are on performance enhancing drugs and you do know what you are doing and if he gives you a copy of the numbers youll understand...good luck.

Peace.

EDIT: Insurance should cover any blood word, they see you are monitoring your health and they appreciate it. But if the INSURANCE not you Dr. find out about AAS use then there would be issues and it would prolly go up.

 

[papapumpsd]

I can not speak from personal experience but i read that most do. This is only casue there IS a confidentiality guidline with your Dr. and he IS NOT allowed to tell anyone. This is talked about in a thread on MD...

I would tell him just cause you know the sides and whats casuing them...he doesnt know youre on, see elevated levels, poor lipids, etc etc he will perscribe you something you can go without basically.

I would mention it, not in detail, but that you are on performance enhancing drugs and you do know what you are doing and if he gives you a copy of the numbers youll understand...good luck.

Peace.

EDIT: Insurance should cover any blood word, they see you are monitoring your health and they appreciate it. But if the INSURANCE not you Dr. find out about AAS use then there would be issues and it would prolly go up.

Thanks Mental. Regarding insurance, I'm not so sure insurance co's. "like" or will "thank you" for racking up blood tests. Usually the Dr. has to prescribe them because he/she believes there is an underlying condition or you are symptomatic. When I requested a blood panel from my primary, he said that he'd need to justify it in his notes and I had to come up with a reason (legit) why I'd need them. So I told him my twin bro had elevated tests and has muscle soreness, etc such as I do. That was good enough for him as my bro and I obviously clones.

I'm just wondering how I might go into my Dr. and say, "Doc, I'd like to get a cancer marker panel done"......since IGF-1 may stimulate/speed-up cancer growth, this panel would be quite helpful IMO but I'm not so sure one would want to say what he/she is using. Same goes for me asking to get other tests/panels. Hmmmm.

Chime in guys!

 

[Bobaslaw]

I agree with MentalTwitch.

Also, from what I have read regarding this specific topic in other forums is that the doctor cannot deny you a blood test and you can just say you want to "evaluate your current general health".
Many say that you can divulge AAS use if you wish to and the Doctor/Patient confidentiality prohibits this disclosure to Insurance Companies.
However, if this info does somehow leak to the insurance Co. you could be screwed, so I'm not inclined to do this. Also, unless you have a cool Doc, you have to put up with the generic health spiel and force fed the usual medically regurgitated cud... I rather go back and endure my childhood catholic church mass where I could at least doze off

My 2 cents..

Take Care.

 

[papapumpsd]

Thanks Bobas! I will call my doc and request a cancer panel for general health sake and see what they say. Are there other panels that you or anyone else recommend? I have had several general blood panels & urinalyses done in the past (BUN, Creatinine, RBC, Na+, K+, etc.)

-Papa!-

 

[Newbie40plus]

I could be wrong but I think that insurance companies can pretty much know what is in your file if they want to.

I specifically asked a specialist I was seeing about this very concern and he said "well they really only want to know what your generally being treated for" or words to that effect.

When I asked if an insurance company wanted to do an audit of his files (i.e. my file gets chosen randomly or whatever) he did not say that this was not possible or not allowed.

I screen what I tell my doctors for this reason. If I could afford it I would see a doctor and pay him cash to get a 100% confidential consultation(s) about any and all issues and concerns.

There are also labs you can go to and pay to have whatever bloodwork you want done. Not sure if they keep records, report it to anyone, etc. It would be interesting to know if you could pay cash and not show ID, I never looked that far into it.

 

[Xodus]

I would never tell your doc you are on ANYTHING. If something comes up in the future, your insurance co can and will deny your claim saying that you caused it with your 'PED' usage (legal, gray, or otherwise).

Go the private route, tests are like $50-$100 for most workups. Once a year blood panels will slip by insurance cos, but if you are requesting them every 3 months, they are going to start denying them or looking into you.

 

[rippedfreak123]

actually theres only one problem to doing it..

me personally i have a good communication with my doc but all i tell him is not to write down any AAS im taking..

that can lead to your insurnce seeing those records and not covering you since your weere on a controlled substance.

 

[papapumpsd]

Very good..thanks fellas! I like the private test route....since it provides a level of anonymity. Yippy-Skippy!

 

[B5150]

Insurance can deny a claim if a particular test or treatment does not meet the prerequisite of reasonable or customary practices.

 

[papapumpsd]

Insurance can deny a claim if a particular test or treatment does not meet the prerequisite of reasonable or customary practices.

Not sure if I believe you....you don't have enough rep points. :lol:

Serious tho, I agree with your comment considering my doc had me come up with a legit reason why I requested blood labs. He mentioned that insurance wouldn't cover it unless there was a legit reason.

The reality here everyone is that if you're going to man-up and research with peptides, you better man-up and be ready to fork over money for labs/blood work. Just my opinion. I have no problem dropping a couple hundo on lab work.....I am looking into them more and more.

I'd love to get my own Cholestech LDX blood chem. analyzer (used of course), but the damn individual tests are what get ya. It's ~$10 per cartridge and you buy them in boxes so they're not cheap up-front (and I think you might need a license to aquire them). The unit itself is as low as $450 used. FYI only there. It's a slick point-of-care diagnostic device.

 

[B5150]

Not sure if I believe you....you don't have enough rep points. :lol:

Serious tho, I agree with your comment considering my doc had me come up with a legit reason why I requested blood labs. He mentioned that insurance wouldn't cover it unless there was a legit reason.

He can code your lab appropriately but it takes some insight on the Dr's part.

The reality here everyone is that if you're going to man-up and research with peptides, you better man-up and be ready to fork over money for labs/blood work. Just my opinion. I have no problem dropping a couple hundo on lab work.....I am looking into them more and more.

As well as anabolics. Far too many spending hundreds of dollars on worthless or non value added support supplements with zero knowledge of their baseline endocrinology.

I'd love to get my own Cholestech LDX blood chem. analyzer (used of course), but the damn individual tests are what get ya. It's ~$10 per cartridge and you buy them in boxes so they're not cheap up-front (and I think you might need a license to aquire them). The unit itself is as low as $450 used. FYI only there. It's a slick point-of-care diagnostic device.

Blood tests. Blood test. Blood testing discounted. is reasonable and very efficient.

This Stickie is rather antiquated and could use some updated references as well as criteria.

Safe Cycling: Your Health Is In Your Hands

My reps are not calibrated to reflect my ignorance standard deviation

 

[papapumpsd]

He can code your lab appropriately but it takes some insight on the Dr's part.

As well as anabolics. Far too many spending hundreds of dollars on worthless or non value added support supplements with zero knowledge of their baseline endocrinology.Blood tests. Blood test. Blood testing discounted. is reasonable and very efficient.

This Stickie is rather antiquated and could use some updated references as well as criteria.

Safe Cycling: Your Health Is In Your Hands

My reps are not calibrated to reflect my ignorance standard deviation

Great sticky (^^^^). Lots of good stuff in there. Def. worth a read and re-read.

That link to the on-line testing site.....there's not a lab around me for 80+ miles....ARRGH.....YARRRGHHH....ARRRGH!

 

[Newbie40plus]

Here is another place, although it says you need to order the tests first through the site so I don't know if there is a way to be completly anon.

http://www.directlabs.com/