[babyblu]

Its really tough to call this one. I have known this company for a little while; I was introduced to them thru a very good friend. I have never heard any complaints on quality until recently. But I have heard those quality complaints from some personal friends who I trust to be honest.

My only real comment is that I doubt that this is pGH under the guise of being pegMGF because plain and simple, if it was pGH it would take a substantially higher dosage to produce these results then what these researchers are using. Look at a 30 day vial of pGH and look at one of these suspect 2mg vials of pegMGF: there should be a substantial difference in the quantity of lypholized powder in those vials. In my opinion, no way that roughly 250-500mics of pGH would produce such effects. But then again Im no expert.

I think it might be as others have mentioned, the fillers or perhaps a contaminant. Hell this stuff comes from China where there are almost NO production standards.

Be safe in your research guys.

Oh and datB was right, Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere.

bb

[rippedfreak123]

well i got that deal of buy one get one free and one looked like it had alot less powder than the other so not to sure as to wat to think..

[SOLARUS]

Originally Posted by babyblu

Oh and datB was right, Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere.

bb

YOU HAVE AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU DO NOT DIVULGE. your motives are suspect, even if you believe what you are saying.

i think people deserve to know when someone expressing an opinion on the boards has a stake in the product they are supporting. everybody has the right to evaluate the quality and objectivity of a recommendation - i am just giving them more data.

you dont like it? tough. but you cant call my concerns unfounded, at all.

would you trust your stockbroker if he only recommended stocks he personally owns?

[babyblu]

What is this conflict of interest? Do you think I own that site or something??? I dont. Do you think Im an investor, rep or saleperson for them??? I'm not. Just b/c I know the guy or just b/c I have used their products does not constitute a 'conflict of interest'. So does that mean I am conflicted on Ergopharm b/c I used 11-OXO or Chuck Diesel b/c I used Diesel Test Hardcore or USPLabs b/c I am currently using Anabolic Pump????

IF I WAS SO 'CONFLICTED' WITH THAT COMPANY THEN I WOULD NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER SAY OH WELL THEIR PRODUCT COULD BE CONTAMINATED OR THEIR PRODUCT HAS SOME KIND OF ****ED UP FILLER. So how would those statements affect this 'stake' you claim I have in this research company, smart guy??

You dont know who the **** I am or what I do.

bb

[SOLARUS]

Originally Posted by babyblu

What is this conflict of interest? Do you think I own that site or something??? I dont. Do you think Im an investor, rep or saleperson for them??? I'm not. Just b/c I know the guy or just b/c I have used their products does not constitute a 'conflict of interest'. So does that mean I am conflicted on Ergopharm b/c I used 11-OXO or Chuck Diesel b/c I used Diesel Test Hardcore or USPLabs b/c I am currently using Anabolic Pump????

IF I WAS SO 'CONFLICTED' WITH THAT COMPANY THEN I WOULD NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER SAY OH WELL THEIR PRODUCT COULD BE CONTAMINATED OR THEIR PRODUCT HAS SOME KIND OF ****ED UP FILLER. So how would those statements affect this 'stake' you claim I have in this research company, smart guy??

you have misunderstood.

i never claimed that you have a link to the vendor we've been discussing. i was instead referring to my initial "callout" of your business dealings as they pertained to a conversation months ago - the one that DatBtrue is using to attack me now because he searched through old threads of mine looking for, well, something to attack.

put more simply for you - my comment was directed at your claim that "Solarus did attack my character out of nowhere." which is ridiculous.

if i wanted to attack your character, i'd have said something like "Babyblu is fcuking lying when he pimps GH because he slings the sh1t on the side"...but i would of course never attack anyone's character in such a fashion.

[babyblu]

1) How have I pimped GH? By discussing gh and every other peptide under the sun in the PEPTIDE forum?

2) Regardless of whether I sell cars, hookers, or cookies, that by no means implies that I lack veracity.

3) You have attacked me out of left field on more than one occassion. You have your own agenda and I could care less what it is but is blatantly obvious you are a hater.

THESE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS BIT$H:

"YOU HAVE AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU DO NOT DIVULGE. your motives are suspect, even if you believe what you are saying.

i think people deserve to know when someone expressing an opinion on the boards has a stake in the product they are supporting. everybody has the right to evaluate the quality and objectivity of a recommendation - i am just giving them more data.

you dont like it? tough. but you cant call my concerns unfounded, at all.

would you trust your stockbroker if he only recommended stocks he personally owns?"

NOW...considering this is in a thread discussing a specific vendor and their products, there is NO other way to interpret your comments beyond the implication that I am somehow affiliated with that vendor b/c "I'm a stockbroker recommending stock I own". You simply cant back out of your comments now clown. Stick by 'em and show everyone how Im associated with the vendor and their products like you claimed earlier. What cant prove it b/c its not true???? Explain what stake I have in a product I have supported in THIS THREAD.

bb

[Tkenshin]

well due to my bad luck with shipping, i will be trying out P-gh starting tonight. I still have 2 mg of p-mgf and im gonna compare the two.

[Grunt76]

Originally Posted by isoc

I've used pegmgf before at 500-600mcg at once and experienced nothing like that, in fact I have never had an unpleasant side from pmgf. I agree with BB, sounds like pgh. I also have pmgf from this source and will be researching with it in 3 weeks. I hope there is no cross contamination, or mix up. I know pgh is a good product, but I am looking forward to another pmgf run.

I absolutely agree. pMGF doesn't feel like anything at all. I have used p-GH and pMGF. That MUST be p-gh.

[rippedfreak123]

Originally Posted by Grunt76

I absolutely agree. pMGF doesn't feel like anything at all. I have used p-GH and pMGF. That MUST be p-gh.

so wats the normal dosing if considering we have PGH..i dont wanna over dose on the ****..

ive taken 1 shot of 500 IUs sunday night

[isoc]

It sounds like it has pgh effects upon injection, but pgh doses are much higher. I would hold off with this until it is figured out what is going on. As BB has said, could be a filler, could be some type of cross contamination, no one really knows right now. I would suggest holding off on your research until this gets settled, I know that is what I would do if I were in your position. Better take a monetary loss than to harm yourself. By the way, I am in no way saying this is harmful, nor disparaging the research company, just be careful. I love lifting and research, but there is more to life than that, I have been doing this off and on for about 15 years now, and have made my own share of mistakes caused by impatience, longevity is the key, muscle is developed over time, consistent training, diet and research, dont sacrifice long term results over impatience or a few $$$'s

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by isoc

It sounds like it has pgh effects upon injection, but pgh doses are much higher. I would hold off with this until it is figured out what is going on. As BB has said, could be a filler, could be some type of cross contamination, no one really knows right now. I would suggest holding off on your research until this gets settled, I know that is what I would do if I were in your position. Better take a monetary loss than to harm yourself. By the way, I am in no way saying this is harmful, nor disparaging the research company, just be careful. I love lifting and research, but there is more to life than that, I have been doing this off and on for about 15 years now, and have made my own share of mistakes caused by impatience, longevity is the key, muscle is developed over time, consistent training, diet and research, dont sacrifice long term results over impatience or a few $$$'s

*High-Five*

[rippedfreak123]

dude but to get in contact with the guy is like getting in contact with the pope..

well i have some serious issues that will be put out here if he doesnt respond to me ASAP..

also if i hold off on the MGF it will eventually get destroyed as it dies quickly..lets see what happens

[isoc]

ripped, did you already recon it? If so, I think it does have a matter of a month or two if regfridgerated, if not recon'd, then it should be good for a while. I understand though, I am in much the same position as you

[babyblu]

Your health is worth a lot more than the $$ you paid for the research products. I would wait until all this mess is cleared up.

bb

[Tkenshin]

well i did 30 iu of pgh, and the effects were every similar to the peg-mgf, however it took longer for the effect, the effect was more severe and the effect lasted a lot longer ( pmgf was instant and gone) like 30 mins. This was done subq instead of IM.

[rippedfreak123]

Originally Posted by isoc

ripped, did you already recon it? If so, I think it does have a matter of a month or two if regfridgerated, if not recon'd, then it should be good for a while. I understand though, I am in much the same position as you

yes bro..i already reconed...well only one 2 mg bottle but believe it or not i want to say that i felt great the next day..somewhat pumped but the sides kinda subsided..

dunno what this could possibly be from..im on a very low dose of test and eq right now..but soon to bump it up as im waiting for my goodies..

all in all imm gonna do another shot tonight and see how that goes..

[rippedfreak123]

Originally Posted by babyblu

Your health is worth a lot more than the $$ you paid for the research products. I would wait until all this mess is cleared up.

bb

yes bro but lets say this is PGH..its being said that higher doses are used so it cant be much harm..i mightess well try this out if thats the case

[SOLARUS]

Originally Posted by Tkenshin

well i did 30 iu of pgh, and the effects were every similar to the peg-mgf, however it took longer for the effect, the effect was more severe and the effect lasted a lot longer ( pmgf was instant and gone) like 30 mins. This was done subq instead of IM.

that could easily be due to the administration method used...IM does hit a bit faster than SC